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Hayduke
25th April 2002, 05:58
Already have been searching for a job after school
no real luck ? Then Communism might be the answer.
This is what I said to my economic teacher but the thing is
she wants facts and arguments.
So please be so gentle to post your opnion and if anyone thinks
he has some information I can use as facts " I would love him forever "

The projects needs to be a bit neutral with bad and good sides of the idea how communism can effect after schooljobs.
And thats why I posted it here in soc-cap so the cappies can have their turn too.

All help would really be appreciated.

Cheers

D-Day

Ernest Everhard
25th April 2002, 06:04
to be honest I'm not sure what you're asking for.

Hayduke
25th April 2002, 13:47
Well my teacher want to know how communism can affect after school jobs....will there be more ? O rsomething else.
Just write your opnion on this one

Anarcho
25th April 2002, 14:13
In a communist-socialist governemtn, the state, realizing a dual need for greater liquid capital in the economy, as well as a desire for jobs for older teens, could create those jobs.

Businesses or light factories, that would also function as practical trade schools, to teach people practical job skills, as well as give them pocket money.

Just an idea, of course. I still know little about it.

Hayduke
25th April 2002, 14:25
Give me more people

komsomol
25th April 2002, 16:55
Communism would break down large companies into lots of small ones, therefore creating more managerial jobs as there would be more places in the newly created companies.

STALINSOLDIERS
25th April 2002, 17:17
in a communist society there would always be something to do or work ....such ass instead of working for big companies and building so much companys there would be work like in cleaning up the enviroment, taking care of kids, there would be so much work good for all and no one would be jobless not even the poor or people without education...

Hayduke
25th April 2002, 17:25
Great stuff comrades, im still waiting for the cappies to come with their negative views....but another thing could anyone place any facts with their arguments.
It would help me really out.

Cheers

D-Day

deimos
25th April 2002, 17:33
Unemployment simply doesn't exist in communism. there are not so much modern machines used so there is my work.Allthough its fabrique work and a doctor works maybe on an assembly line......

Hayduke
25th April 2002, 17:41
Same thing I said to my teacher but her's what she said :

Okay so you think communism is better, well give me examples of new jobs avaible for kids then there are now.
At remember it may not be dangerous work or hard cause that's something I cannot accept.

If you want to proof your communism after school job theory you have to come up with good facts and not with theorys.

Peaccenicked you know any articles bout it ?

Cheers

D-Day

Solzhenitsyn
25th April 2002, 21:36
Unemployment simply doesn't exist in communism. there are not so much modern machines used so there is my work.Allthough its fabrique work and a doctor works maybe on an assembly line......


Really? The Soviet Union still had problems with homelessness when it collapsed in '92. Granted, most of it was transient in nature mainly people waiting for housing to become available. They were periodically rounded up when Westen bigwigs came to visit.

Secondly, some unemployment must exist everywhere. It's called structural unemployment and consists of the injured, the disabled, people changing jobs, in school, in transition from military service, people left over from factory closings etc.

Hayduke
26th April 2002, 06:28
Please stay on topic

Hayduke
26th April 2002, 17:34
PauldavidHewson I really want to debate with you bout this...so if you see this......

komsomol
26th April 2002, 17:37
Things like schools, hospitals etc would be de-privatised putting the service and the jobs of employees before profit. As for the facts of the past, you will have to look into the USSR, PRC etc but I am not sure you will find many points to support your arguement there.

libereco
26th April 2002, 17:47
Quote: from deimos on 5:33 pm on April 25, 2002
Unemployment simply doesn't exist in communism. there are not so much modern machines used so there is my work.Allthough its fabrique work and a doctor works maybe on an assembly line......


i don't get what you're trying to say...why wouldn't there be modern machines in communism again?

mechanical progress is nothing to fear...of course in capitalist society it ends with more unemployment, but in a socialist society it could produce reduced work hours or even if there were unemployment it could be ensured that the people are well off.

if we can produce the same stuff without having to work manually for 15 hours we should...it doesn't mean that people don't get anything to eat, just that they don't have to work as hard for it.

RedRevolutionary87
26th April 2002, 21:38
the thing is in communism you wouldnt need afterschool jobs, yes the light factories would become trade schools, the farther in your education you got the more focused your education would get on what type of job is good for you, since there would be no currency, there would be no need for the afterschool job, you would be provided with your needs. the popularity of afterschool jobs rose with capitalism, as school expenses built up student had to work to be able to pay this, simply because theyre parents couldnt afford to.

so in conclusio, communism would not provide you an afterschool job, in that sense wof the term, but would instead eliminate the need for an afterschool job

BatistaNationalista
27th April 2002, 00:29
In a communist society, the youth will have very little access to jobs. Jobs require long term commitments and contracts with the goverment. You can't work in a corner store, because there is no corner store. Everythign is owned by the state.

Anarcho
30th April 2002, 08:01
Quote: from RedRevolutionary87 on 9:38 pm on April 26, 2002
the thing is in communism you wouldnt need afterschool jobs, yes the light factories would become trade schools, the farther in your education you got the more focused your education would get on what type of job is good for you, since there would be no currency, there would be no need for the afterschool job, you would be provided with your needs. the popularity of afterschool jobs rose with capitalism, as school expenses built up student had to work to be able to pay this, simply because theyre parents couldnt afford to.

so in conclusio, communism would not provide you an afterschool job, in that sense wof the term, but would instead eliminate the need for an afterschool job


I still don't see how a state can eliminate money. Cash is essential to the flow of society, all society. It's social lubricant.