Should UK teenagers swear allegiance to the Queen?

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School leavers in the UK would swear an oath of allegiance to the Queen under new government plans. Should pupils take part in special citizenship ceremonies?

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[The Feral Underclass]

Yes. They should also be forced to pay license fee's as soon as they're able to walk.

[Yazman]

Yes. HEIL ELIZABETH!

[jake williams]

No. Fuck the Monarchy. In Canada too, it's ridiculous. We're not in 1712 anymore. Grow up.

[RedAnarchist]

Its just another stupid idea from the Government who obviously wants us to be more like the Americans. Anyone who actually thinks we need this, or the monarchy itself, in the 21st century is in need of help.

[Kropotesta]

This is just laughable. Looks like they are only using it to try and validate the citzenship tests for immigrants.

[Jazzratt]

Sickeningly the person who proposed this suggested it would help British people intergrate newcomers into society better.

[spartan]

I am not going to swear allegiance to a woman and her family who does nothing to justify getting the millions of working class people's money that she and her family happily lives in comfort on.

[Cencus]

I'd love to seem them try n pull this shit in a poor catholic school in Glasgow. :laugh:

[Gitfiddle Jim]

Or a Catholic area in Belfast.

[Sugar Hill Kevis]

I wonder if they'd revoke my citizenship if I refused to do so... :P

[Herman]

Three words: Fuck the queen.

[Raisa]

Three words: Fuck the queen.


At least you get to swear allegiance to a queen, in america we plegde allegance to the flag...( okay class everyone put your hand over your heart)
of the united states of america
and to the republic for which it stands
one nation undergod
indivisible
with liberty and justice for all

[jake williams]

At least you get to swear allegiance to a queen, in america we plegde allegance to the flag...( okay class everyone put your hand over your heart)
of the united states of america
and to the republic for which it stands
one nation undergod
indivisible
with liberty and justice for all
At least it's your own flag. In Canada (at least theoretically) we have to swear to a lazy inbred from thousands of kilometers away.

[Holden Caulfield]

i will if it is like this


God save the queen
The fascist regime
They made you a moron
Potential H-bomb

God save the queen
She ain't no human being
There is no future
In England's dreaming

Don't be told what you want
Don't be told what you need
There's no future, no future,
No future for you

God save the queen
We mean it man
We love our queen
God saves

God save the queen
'Cause tourists are money
And our figurehead
Is not what she seems

Oh God save history
God save your mad parade
Oh Lord God have mercy
All crimes are paid

When there's no future
How can there be sin
We're the flowers in the dustbin
We're the poison in your human machine
We're the future, your future

God save the queen
We mean it man
We love our queen
God saves

God save the queen
We mean it man
And there is no future
In England's dreaming

No future, no future,
No future for you
No future, no future,
No future for me

No future, no future,
No future for you
No future, no future
For you

[Colonello Buendia]

if they try something in parkhead or govan, fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck will that be funny;)

[Coffee Mug]

i will if it is like this


God save the queen
The fascist regime
They made you a moron
Potential H-bomb

God save the queen
She ain't no human being
There is no future
In England's dreaming

Don't be told what you want
Don't be told what you need
There's no future, no future,
No future for you

God save the queen
We mean it man
We love our queen
God saves

God save the queen
'Cause tourists are money
And our figurehead
Is not what she seems

Oh God save history
God save your mad parade
Oh Lord God have mercy
All crimes are paid

When there's no future
How can there be sin
We're the flowers in the dustbin
We're the poison in your human machine
We're the future, your future

God save the queen
We mean it man
We love our queen
God saves

God save the queen
We mean it man
And there is no future
In England's dreaming

No future, no future,
No future for you
No future, no future,
No future for me

No future, no future,
No future for you
No future, no future
For you



Hell Yeah!

[Bright Banana Beard]

is there pledge of alligiance for serving humanity and not beyond it?

[thejambo1]

my daughter who is 13 has a good enough grasp on life to tell them where to go on this loyalty crap. just as well or i would put her straight!! its a last desperate gamble by a government who find themselves on the way out.

[Ferryman 5]

[quote=Cencus;1095657]I'd love to seem them try n pull this shit in a poor catholic school in Glasgow. :laugh:[/quote

Or Liverpool

[TheDifferenceEngine]

If this passes I'll Swear allegiance to the Revolution.

[Ferryman 5]

If this passes I'll Swear allegiance to the Revolution.

What! you haven't already?

I think we should start writing oaths before the man forces one on the kids.

Truth is, most prols in the cities of Britain would rather saw their heads off with a rusty saw than chant an oath to loony Lizzy and her Nazi sprogs.

[Y Chwyldro Comiwnyddol Cymraeg]

The Welsh Assembly are going to oppose the idea, being comprised of a fair few Republicans (Plaid Cymru)

[lombas]

I ain't swearing nothing.

In fact, I do not swear in the first place. I believe it creates two dimensions of "truth". But that's personal.

Still, I swear or affirm "allegiance" to no one.

What the heck is allegiance" anyway. This ain't the army, or the Middle Ages for that sake.

[Entrails Konfetti]

You might aswell swear allegiance to someone elses Grandma, or elderly Female celebrity, like Bea Arthur.

[Ferryman 5]

What! you haven't already?

I think we should start writing oaths before the man forces one on the kids.

Truth is, most prols in the cities of Britain would rather saw their heads off with a rusty saw than chant an oath to loony Lizzy and her Nazi sprogs.

The point is, unless we have an reason and an objective of our own class that we are committed to, that we can 'swear by' then the cap propaganda will have its disgusting influence.

[Ferryman 5]

What! you haven't already?

I think we should start writing oaths before the man forces one on the kids.

Truth is, most prols in the cities of Britain would rather saw their heads off with a rusty saw than chant an oath to loony Lizzy and her Nazi sprogs.

The point is, unless we have an reason and an objective of our own class that we are committed to, that we can 'swear by' then the cap propaganda will have its disgusting influence.

[Ferryman 5]

What! you haven't already?

I think we should start writing oaths before the man forces one on the kids.

Truth is, most prols in the cities of Britain would rather saw their heads off with a rusty saw than chant an oath to loony Lizzy and her Nazi sprogs.

The point is, unless we have an reason and an objective of our own class that we are committed to, that we can 'swear by' then the cap propaganda will have its disgusting influence.

[Ferryman 5]

What! you haven't already?

I think we should start writing oaths before the man forces one on the kids.

Truth is, most prols in the cities of Britain would rather saw their heads off with a rusty saw than chant an oath to loony Lizzy and her Nazi sprogs.

The point is, unless we have an reason and an objective of our own class that we are committed to, that we can 'swear by' then the cap propaganda will have its disgusting influence.

[Ferryman 5]

What! you haven't already?

I think we should start writing oaths before the man forces one on the kids.

Truth is, most prols in the cities of Britain would rather saw their heads off with a rusty saw than chant an oath to loony Lizzy and her Nazi sprogs.

The point is, unless we have an reason and an objective of our own class that we are committed to, that we can 'swear by' then the cap propaganda will have its disgusting influence.

[Ferryman 5]

What! you haven't already?

I think we should start writing oaths before the man forces one on the kids.

Truth is, most prols in the cities of Britain would rather saw their heads off with a rusty saw than chant an oath to loony Lizzy and her Nazi sprogs.

The point is, unless we have a good reason and an objective argument for the class behaviour that we are committed to and that we can 'swear by' then the capitalist propaganda will have its disgusting influence.

[Sankofa]

In a word, No. I have issues pledging allegiance to a piece of cloth, much less a person like the Queen.

Off Topic:


The point is, unless we have a good reason and an objective argument for the class behaviour that we are committed to and that we can 'swear by' then the capitalist propaganda will have its disgusting influence.

LOL nice sextuple post :ohmy:

[Ferryman 5]

LOL nice sextuple post :ohmy:


Don't ask i've no idea, mad init.

[Pirate turtle the 11th]

I refuse to do that if they try and make me i will walk out

[Cheung Mo]

lol...Aside from encouraging Scottish and Irish chavs to vandalise the property of wealthy English aristocrats living in their midst (no complaints from me, even if I find their reasons to be crap), I don't see what this will do.

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

I would not swear allegience, as I am nobody's subject.

The whole idea is incredibly anachronistic even by capitalist standards - modern societies are effectively contractual - I pay my taxes, therefore I have the right of access to services provided by the government, including healthcare, public highways, emergency services and the justice system. I obey the laws of the land (or at least don't get caught breaking them), and my rights as granted by the government are protected. In theory, anyway.

"Swearing allegience" is a medieval holdover that should be opposed by all forward-thinking people, let alone revolutionary leftists.

[Dr Mindbender]

[quote=Cencus;1095657]I'd love to seem them try n pull this shit in a poor catholic school in Glasgow. :laugh:[/quote

Or Liverpool



...Or South Armagh or the bogside :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

[Dr Mindbender]

How are they going to enforce this anyway?

Will they start locking up teenagers who refuse to do it as suspected terrorists or something?

[Gitfiddle Jim]

There's no need. The monarchy will be abolished soon anyway.

[Angry Young Man]

wtf? I din't know about this!What are they hoping to achieve by this? And why school leavers?They're not gonna introduce it into class rooms, surely?Are there any links to this?

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

There's no need. The monarchy will be abolished soon anyway.

Tell me more, I'm interested.

[Angry Young Man]

We need to wait until there's a monarch who is so despicable to the masses that the cheers from London to Glasgow are so loud that they can be heard in Iceland.Like prince Charles

[RedAnarchist]

Don't ask i've no idea, mad init.

I wouldn't worry, its probably just a software glitch.

[careyprice31]

No. Fuck the Monarchy. In Canada too, it's ridiculous. We're not in 1712 anymore. Grow up.

Couldn't agree more. Nothing else to add here. You said it.:)

Since I was 14 years old I believed canada should get rid of the monarchy.

[mario_buda]

how is this even a question?

[redarmyfaction38]

how is this even a question?

don't you think "lefties like to have fun" too?;)


"the peoples flag is deepest red,
it covered oft our martyred dead,
whilst cowaRDS flinch and traitors sneer,
we'll keep the red flag flying here,
with heads uncovered swear we all
to bear it (the red flag) onwards till we fall,
come dungeons dark or gallows grim,
this song shall be our parting hymn"

btw, the "red flag" is a "marching" song and should not be sung in the funereal tones of "christmas tree" or whatever it's calledx.

[superiority]

It's a bloody stupid idea, but I probably wouldn't give a shit if I had to swear allegiance to the Queen. Wouldn't stop me putting a bullet in her head if it came to it.

[Holden Caulfield]

"the peoples flag is deepest red,
it covered oft our martyred dead,
whilst cowaRDS flinch and traitors sneer,
we'll keep the red flag flying here,
with heads uncovered swear we all
to bear it (the red flag) onwards till we fall,
come dungeons dark or gallows grim,
this song shall be our parting hymn"

.

fucking love this song,

[redarmyfaction38]

fucking love this song,
we're definately on the same planet then:)