Falange

[PaulDavidHewson]

Do you really think it's appopriate to have that name?

[Solzhenitsyn]

I think if Marxists can claim that Marxism can be implemented nonviolently, then Falangists should have the same benefit or anyone else for matter.

(Edited by Solzhenitsyn at 11:00 pm on April 17, 2002)

[El Brujo]

The thing is. Fascism can never be implemented nonviolently because A)They represent the ultra-elite so the commoners would never approve of them and B)Because they are fanatically pro-millitary.

There have been many elected communist and socialist governments in country's such as Chile, Vietnam, Spain, Moldova, Venezuela, Holland, Sweden, etc. But have you ever, in your entire fucking life, heard of an "elected fascist government"? I think not.

[RedCeltic]

Note: There are forums on the internet where you can say whatever you want, Freedomforums for example has a large number of Nazi worshipers on it. Che-Lives is not one of those forums.

The MAJOR Pet peve of this forums founder (Malte) it's supporting leftist members, and myself is racism and fascism.

I only hope that the name "Falange" is only a jab like the name "Reagan Lives" or "Solzhenitsyn" which to me are fully acceptable. And capitalist views are acceptable within this forum.

Racism is not, and often fascism leads to racism.

[Solzhenitsyn]

Actually there are many examples:
http://www.nytimes.com/learning/general/on...y/big/0819.html (http://www.nytimes.com/learning/general/onthisday/big/0819.html) - Hitler's crushing victory in the election to make him absolute dictator of Germany. Hell, this even gives a summary of district by district voting. Note that districts with heavy Communist support voted the most heavily for Hitler.

[Dan Majerle]

good points Red Celtic however i still think he should be allowed to post in this forum. I don't think he is a racist however if he is then maybe we should consider banning him. Otherwise even if he is a fascist he should be permitted to post. Just adds to the debate.
Also i've noticed alot of cappies have emerged in this forum which is great because this further increases debate.

[Moskitto]

Note that districts with heavy Communist support voted the most heavily for Hitler.

That's because in areas where extremists have support (like Communists), other extremists have lots of support as well (like Nazis), It's part of one side driving the community apart. The same thing happens in genocides. it's got nothing to do with Communists being Nazis.

[El Brujo]

Berlin had a sector of the city that gave it its name "Red Berlin" because they usually voted for communists, social democrats and liberals, but A) The Nazis manipulated the votes and used terror to bring the elections to their favour and B) Hitler had the support of the chancellor of Germany.

Anyhow, whats your point? Your CIA set up fascist dictators in latin america that gave political asylum to Nazi criminals and Bush Sr. had exhiled Nazis do propaganda for him (not to mention that the Bush family bere Nazi spies during WW2) also, your government supports Israel who's government is basically jewish nazis because they do the same things the nazis did to them, to the Palestinians. So I guess that makes the capitalists nazis as well.

[Guest]

his point is that middle classes are less likely to support totalitarianism

[Nateddi]

Did agusto forget the password to his second account?

[Guest]

i delete my cookies after a while and am too lazy to look it up in my email

[Communist Dominion]

fascism cannot work because it works on eliteism, and since only a few are elite they do not have the majority, and since the majority has the power they are therefor elite, so it goes around in that circle until they kill each other off.
THE END

[Falange]

I chose Falange because:

#1. When I served in the Foreign Legion I was in the 3/36, the regement was called Échelon De Phalanx.

#2 The Falange kicked your red asses in Spain.

By-the-by, while in the Legion we were called into Senegal to deal with the "Red Spear" guerilla movement which had slaughtered hundreds of *civilian people. We mopped them up in one month's time. Amazing what you can accomplish with a Galil AR 308cal. assault rifle!

[Falange]

Communist Dominion;

The majority has the power? Weren't the Bolsheviks the minority in 1917? In fact, weren't they the minority throughout the history of the USSR? Elites tend to most always seize power. Have you ever herded cattle?

[Michael De Panama]

Quote: from Communist Dominion on 5:44 am on April 20, 2002
fascism cannot work because it works on eliteism, and since only a few are elite they do not have the majority, and since the majority has the power they are therefor elite, so it goes around in that circle until they kill each other off.
THE END


The same reason why capitalism will eventually fall. Either capitalism will fall, or fascism will rise. One or the other. I support the destruction of a system that grants all the power to the wealthy minority.

[PaulDavidHewson]

true, the bolsjewieken were the elite and the minority.

The mensjewieken should have seized the power.

[El Brujo]

Quote: from Falange on 1:34 pm on April 21, 2002



The Falange kicked your red asses in Spain.



Wrong buddy. Plenty of reds in Spain today. 2 socialist presidents were elected after Franco's death and the communist party is one of the biggest in Europe. And your talking about slaughter when your stupid fascists did just that. Many people my family over there knew were killed by the Falange.

[Falange]

Not wrong, commie. Franco prevented the reds from turning Spain into a vast concentration camp. You lost the civil war and Spain is better for it. Note my signature?

As for slaughter, don't act as if the left was innocent. My God, you people even slaughtered each other there.

As for your communist parties: big deal. Communism and socialism are about as popular today as AIDS.

[Nateddi]

Falage, are you "related" to Batista by any way?

[Dan Majerle]

lol

[Moskitto]

Spain is better for it

Spain had shanty towns, political prisoners and a human rights record worse than that of Chile under Augusto Pinochet during Franco's Reign. Spain's economic development happened after Franco (under socialist presidents as El Brujo said.) In Spain you could get arrested for painting (I know someone who this happened to.)

I know someone who's father fled Spain to get away from the Fascists.

(Edited by Moskitto at 9:29 pm on April 23, 2002)

[El Brujo]

Quote: from Falange on 8:41 am on April 22, 2002
Not wrong, commie. Franco prevented the reds from turning Spain into a vast concentration camp. You lost the civil war and Spain is better for it. Note my signature?

As for slaughter, don't act as if the left was innocent. My God, you people even slaughtered each other there.

As for your communist parties: big deal. Communism and socialism are about as popular today as AIDS.



Stupidity indeed reigns in the elitist world.

1. Not like your fascist party is any more popular (seeing as how it only benefits an ELITE FEW that think the world revolves around them). Couldnt help but notice the loads of anti-fascist rioters that celebrated during the 25th anniversary of the Francos death... Yeah the Falange sure is popular indeed (LMAO).

2. Spain was WORSE for it. Just because it allowed a few dipshits to become pointlessly rich dosent mean it benefits the masses.

3. No, the left wasnt completely innocent from the violence but the violence is mostly justified by REASON not FANATICISM. Which is why were not the ones who supported a regime that killed 6 million people for NO REASON OTHER THAN THEIR RACE.

4. Im not even going to start about the "concentration camp" bullshit, you clearly made that up to try to piss me off.

5. "Hemos pasado!" Thats correct, hemos pasado, from the stupid fascist bullshit that was the Falange when that Franco bastard died. And the masses are HAPPY about it (see #1).

Now if you have anymore shit to shovel out of your mouth, IM me. I have better things to do than have a philosophical argument with a narrow-minded elitist on why inequality is stupid.