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R_P_A_S
9th March 2008, 04:53
So Chavez and Uribe shook hands. the crisis is officially over? good i guess. BUT what of the accusations Uribe was making about Chavez? the 300 million dollars he gave the FARC? and also the charges of Genocide he was going to bring up to the international court.. what the hell? this shit is just gonna be forgotten????

how can Chavez and everyone else just sit there with their arms crossed?

Dominicana_1965
9th March 2008, 04:59
So Chavez and Uribe shook hands. the crisis is officially over? good i guess. BUT what of the accusations Uribe was making about Chavez? the 300 million dollars he gave the FARC? and also the charges of Genocide he was going to bring up to the international court.. what the hell? this shit is just gonna be forgotten????

how can Chavez and everyone else just sit there with their arms crossed?

Uribe decided to "revise" the court suggestion, I wonder why.:lol:

Also a new laptop has appeared! :rolleyes:

Despite the Summit ambassadors and trade have still been pulled back.

AGITprop
9th March 2008, 15:23
There is a simple explanation to all of this. Uribe had nothing. As I said in previous thread, this evidence was fabricated. Uribe cannot afford to go to war with Venezuela, Equador and possibly all of South America because the United States;

a) Is caught up in Iraq and starting a war is a physical impossibility. Also, the government would become very unpopular and this would cause Hispanic workers in the states to become unruly. The government does not want to face this kind of unrest.

b) ..there is no B, thats about it.

Comrade Wolfie's Very Nearly Banned Adventures
10th March 2008, 11:21
I guessed the yanks would put pressure on Uribe because they knew they would be unable to win and would lose another puppet in South America.

Lisa
10th March 2008, 18:39
I just hope Columbia will be free of the bloody murderng narco terrorist Uribe very soon!

Zurdito
10th March 2008, 19:54
2 bourgeois poltiicans have a spat, rattle their sabres a bit, and then come to a compromise. why so shocked?

Guerrilla22
11th March 2008, 03:30
It made for a great photo op. Even Ortega got in on the action. :glare:

EricTheRed
11th March 2008, 07:37
I just hope Columbia will be free of the bloody murderng narco terrorist Uribe very soon!

Not with an 80% approval rating. I sincerely hope that number is skewed because the poor Colombians can't afford phone or internet.

If it's a genuine statistical 80%, then it seems that the Colombian publics stupidity roughly mirrors that of the American publics when inundated with bullshit propaganda.

BIG BROTHER
11th March 2008, 17:05
Yes its sad, while las FARC popularity goes down, Uribe's popularity goes up. So sad to see the working class colombians blinded from the truth.

OrientalHado
11th March 2008, 23:02
Not with an 80% approval rating. I sincerely hope that number is skewed because the poor Colombians can't afford phone or internet.

If it's a genuine statistical 80%, then it seems that the Colombian publics stupidity roughly mirrors that of the American publics when inundated with bullshit propaganda.

death squads don't really allow for much leftist support tbh..80% Can be considered a somewhat forced figure..Colombia aside from Israel is a bastion for the scourge known as Fascism.

bayano
12th March 2008, 19:06
a friend once told me that, at a colombian airport, there were more copies of Mein Kampf than just about any other work in the political theory section of the bookstore.

but chavez and correra dont want war either. none of them does.

also, anybody see clinton and obama's positions? both completely glossed over the invasion, sided with uribe and attacked chavez. lock and step

Killer Enigma
12th March 2008, 19:12
a friend once told me that, at a colombian airport, there were more copies of Mein Kampf than just about any other work in the political theory section of the bookstore.
Second-hand anecdotal evidence is entirely unimpressive when you are attempting to assert that Colombia is fascist. It is equally foolish to assert that a single bookstore in a Colombian airport carrying copies of Mein Kamph makes the nation fascist.

Killer Enigma
12th March 2008, 19:14
death squads don't really allow for much leftist support tbh..80% Can be considered a somewhat forced figure..Colombia aside from Israel is a bastion for the scourge known as Fascism.
You have provided no warrant for this claim. Your failure to do so indicates that (1) you have a misunderstanding, or potentially no understanding, of Colombia and (2) you have no grasp on fascist theory.

bayano
12th March 2008, 19:22
wait a minute, i realize i didnt make any point with my evidence, but it was not to say that all of colombia is fascist. but there is irrefutable evidence that, among the paramilitaries, uribe's political circles, and many of those who can afford to fly, neo-fascism is popular. also, second hand anecdotal evidence is as good as any evidence except first hand. i didnt not 'assert.. that colombia as a nation is fascist'. youre post was insulting and unwarranted.

actually, so far, KE, you have offered no evidence on this thread as to why you get to patronize myself or OH. dont be a dick

Killer Enigma
12th March 2008, 19:27
wait a minute, i realize i didnt make any point with my evidence, but it was not to say that all of colombia is fascist. but there is irrefutable evidence that, among the paramilitaries, uribe's political circles, and many of those who can afford to fly, neo-fascism is popular. also, second hand anecdotal evidence is as good as any evidence except first hand. i didnt not 'assert.. that colombia as a nation is fascist'. youre post was insulting and unwarranted.

actually, so far, KE, you have offered no evidence on this thread as to why you get to patronize myself or OH. dont be a dick
I apologize and retract my comment for assuming you were supporting OrientalHado's post. However, the remainder of my claim still stands because anecdotal evidence, least of all second hand anecdotal evidence, means nothing to anyone beyond those who were allegedly involved. For instance, how do we know your friend is credible on the matter? Did he count the total number of each political text in the store and compare it to the number of Mein Kamph? Anecdotal evidence cannot credibly answer these questions because it is entirely undocumented.

This begs the question, though: What point were you trying to make in brining up your friend's story about Mein Kamph in the Colombian airport.

BIG BROTHER
14th March 2008, 00:57
I know its late to point it out, but did you guys see the look on President Correa when h shock hands with Uribe? It looked as if Correa was about to shoot bullets through his eyes.