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RadioRaheem84
8th March 2008, 19:40
Free Markey enthusiasts love to denounce the ills of government and the state as being coercive, but rarely denounce the coercive elements their ideology has on the poor.

The effects of their buying and selling, cutting and spending, etc. make people in the lower rung of society move and back forth, finding or transfering jobs multiple times in their lifetime.

The only thing that keeps them from justifying their ideology and denouncing the state is because they presuppose their economic outlook to be a science. The "invisible hand" of the market is somehow something beyond you and I. Public intervention in the private sector would only harm the natural purity of the market.

What they do not know is that government (when not beholden to private interests) is the only thing the poor have to combat corporate corruption (like in the guilded age). It benefits them sometimes. What intervention does not benefit is the rich industrialist. Because as the working poor are constantly having to shift their lives in order to fit the market, the rich never have to do the same. They only do whenever there is an intervention by the people.

darkened day 92
8th March 2008, 20:03
You should hear some of the things that people in my highschool say. The poor are poor because they are lazy. or why are you so much against being rich. if god wants them to be rich they would have been rich. our daddys worked so hard and he deserves to see us happy. or i gave my whole 100 riyals to the red crescent. or who gives a shit!
When i grow up i think i will leave all thoes nosy snobs and i will move to cuba! the free market and how to suck more money from the people that don't have any that's all we fuckin learn. In a free market society u see the businesses controling the government and all the people's destinies while in public sector society the government allocates all the resouces for the people.

RadioRaheem84
8th March 2008, 20:29
..and what frustrates me the most is that if you negate any aspect of their ideology, they tell you that you need to go back to Econ 101. They tell you that whenever the government intervenes it hurts the workers. What rubbish! The only reason why it "hurts" the workers is because the people at the top do not want to take a paycut and transfer those losses to their workers with layoffs, cutbacks in their salary and retirement plans.

Darkened_Day, the only reason why they tell you all that BS is because for lack of a better word, they're trying to say that they own the place and any attempt on your part to change that will result in consequences that will only hurt you and not them.

This mentality goes for both the conservative Republican and the liberal internationalists that inhabit the globe.

Black Cross
8th March 2008, 21:08
you and I.

Was the english language formed by capitalists? Does anyone else think it's kinda funny that I is always capitalized... (No real need to reply to that)

And to be (ugh...) fair, some people are really just fuckin ignoramuses and don't realize how fucked they, and their country, are. I'm not at all defending them or their ideology on that basis. Just sayin cut em a little slack, their pretty much brainwashed that way since birth. I know i was.

RadioRaheem84
9th March 2008, 22:44
that isn't entirely true. Most of the world's elite consider themselves part of this global community of wealth and privelage. The world is their plyground now. This notion was hinted at by a social scientist in John Pilger's brilliant documentary The War on Democracy. The elite do not totally consider themselves citizens of one nation or hold too much alligience to that nation and its people. They consider the world (or the top one percent of it) as thier true residence.