ELF bombs luxury homes, no one hurt

[bayano]

Despite Gather.com's headline Eco-Terrorism is Not Cool, Turn in ELF Members, I think it is pretty cool that someone had the guts to blow up and burn down several empty "Built Green" luxury homes in Washington state this past Monday, and the planning and foresight to make sure not one person was harmed. Three multimillion-dollar homes on a cul-de-sac in the Maltby area were destroyed in the arsons and attempts were made to burn two other homes. Damage is estimated at $7 million. The luxury homes were also taking land from the creak of an endangered species of fish

EDIT: whoop, i misspelled condone

[F9]

Condone.Every move that blows capitalist is good.And ofcourse no working people looses something!

Fuserg9:star:

[RedDawn]

Although I wouldn't turn them into the police, I think "eco-terrorism" just makes it a harder job to win over the proletariat.

And really, what kind of name is ELF? They should just call themselves the Planeteers.

[Comrade Rage]

Condone. I don't agree with their line on environmentalism, but any strike at capital is good IMO.

[BrotherNo2]

Highly condone and was very happy to hear of it. Hopefully we will see more revoluationary action like this. It is good, IMO, to see people who are willing to put their money where their mouth is ... so to speak.

[Kropotesta]

this is brillant.

[Sankofa]

Condone.

[raspute]

No injuries? Condoned.

[Zurdito]

I wouldn't condemn it, as it's an act of class war, even if fought on a bad strategy. plus it means some insurance company has to pay some workers to rebuild the houses (ok clutching at straws)

[Comrade Wolfie's Very Nearly Banned Adventures]

irrelevant

[Bright Banana Beard]

codone since cappie pig lost something

[Ismail]

As Wolfie said, it's irrelevant. Media will portray it as an act of terrorism (It is), the proletariat will consider these groups to be terrorists (They are) and people will just view it as an annoyance. 0% revolutionary potential here.

[BobKKKindle$]

I wouldn't condemn it, as it's an act of class war, even if fought on a bad strategyClass war? The ELF is a radical environmental group; they don't recognize class division as the most important division in human society, they don't fight for the needs of humans over the welfare of other species, and their actions are motivated by a misconception that other forms of life have some kind of intrinsic value, beyond the benefits they offer humans. They are reactionary, and we should condemn this act, simply because it does not aid the working class in their struggle for liberation. The ELF would attack workers if that was necessary to achieve their objectives.

I do not view all forms of terrorism as worthy of condemnation; attacks on bourgeois property can be useful sometimes, when they are used to extract political concessions which are directly beneficial to the working class, such as the elimination of segregation in South Africa, or when they are used to gain a platform to express our ideas. We should judge each individual case on it's merits, but restrict support to attacks on property or specific individuals - any attack on proletarians, no matter how honorable the intentions of the militants involved, simply alienates the working class from our ideas and gives the state a pretense to disrupt far-left activism, by banning our parties or by entering our homes to search for banned materials such as bomb making equipment.


codone since cappie pig lost something
Condone.Every move that blows capitalist is goodSo if a far-right attack destroyed a supermarket in an ethnic minority neighborhood, would you support that as well, simply on the basis that it resulted in the loss of property? We should avoid silly universal positions such as this and analyze the ideology and motives of militant groups before we start supporting all terrorist attacks. The experience on Anarchists in the nineteenth century shows that terrorist attacks, in the absence of class consciousness, are not effective, and merely serve to support the image that Socialists (especially Anarchists) endorse violence and have no respect for human life.

[anonymous red]

this action does noting for the working class.

[Qwerty Dvorak]

We need a null vote option because I seriously don't give a shit.

[Module]

To be honest, it's just a bit unnecessary. I don't see what difference it makes in any way whatsoever.

[chimx]

this action does noting for the working class.

Actually here in Washington it kick started an interesting discussion with my construction coworkers on people being fed up with rich people.

[Red October]

The ELF has no class perspective, their actions have no class-struggle basis, and their actions do nothing for the class struggle. As far as I'm concerned this is just a bunch of primitivist jackoffs blowing shit up. Yeah, it's a blow against some rich assholes, but it really does nothing to advance class struggle in the same way that torching Bill Gate's car wouldn't help.

[Xiao Banfa]

I can't be bothered writing my own response, so:


Although I wouldn't turn them into the police, I think "eco-terrorism" just makes it a harder job to win over the proletariat.

And really, what kind of name is ELF? They should just call themselves the Planeteers.