Who are the figures of history whom u most admire?

[careyprice31]

For me it has to be the Decembrists. I love the Decembrists. They were really the founding fathers of the Russian revolutionary movement.

Also i love their ideas of the Constituent assembly.

I also love Georgi Plekhanov, the founding father of Russian Marxism. He formed Russia's very first Marxist group in 1883, called The Group for the Emancipation of Labor. (Marx was brought to Russia first in 1872, when the Tsar's censors released Das Kapital, they figured it would be too difficult for the ppl to understand so they let it go)

Plekhanov was one of the I guess u could say a descendant of the Decembrists, inheriting their zeal and passion for revolution.

I also love Bukharin, as u know.

I like Gandhi, and William Wallace (although technically he wasnt a revolutionary; he just traded one form of monarchy, england for another Scottish one)

and Louis Riel and Gabriel Dumont, they were instrumental in helping to protect the rights of the Native people in Canada from the exploitation and ethnocentrism of the white man.

Who do u most admire from history?

[Agingradical]

My favorites are Bakunin, Lenin, Emma Goldman, Abiamael Guzman, Che Guevarra

[Herman]

Pablo Iglesias

[Comerade Ted Grant]

I like Lenin, Marx, Engels, Trotsky, George Orwell, Alan Woods, Ted Grant, William Paul, Che, Castro, Malcolm X, The Weather Underground et al.

[Red October]

Nestor Makhno, Durruti, Kropotkin, Emma Goldman, Huey P Newton, and anyone who spells out the word "you" instead of using "u".

[F9]

Kropotkin,Che,Bakunin

[Forward Union]

Walter (wat) Tyler - Leader of the English Pesants revolt of 1381. Took over half of the south of England, burning Tax registries and prisons. He then lead an Army of peasants to London to destory "the Hierachical system of Feudalism" and replace it with something more "egalitarian". Having taken London Bridge and the Tower of London. He met with the king and was stabbed to death out of sight of the rebel army which was then defeated. His death marked the end of the first recorded mass revolt in English History.
http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:q7MVRyOlJGi4OM:http://www.cressingtemple.org.uk/CourtHall/Hospitallers/Tyler_dies.jpg

Gerrard Winstanley - Leader of "The True Levellers" a movement in the English Revolution of the 1640s that fought to "level society" - to make it equal, for the abolition of property, money, and equal rights for Women, Gays, blacks, everyone. They occupied St Georges hill after they lost faith in the new government and were mostly shot/executed and Imprisoned for treason.
http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:TAtEB4cgjlAAfM:http://www.wilsonsalmanac.com/images2/winstanley.gif
"Buying and selling is the great cheat, that robs and steals the Earth one from another: It is that which makes some Lords, others Beggers, some Rulers, others to be ruled; and makes great Murderers and Theeves to be imprisoners, and hangers of little ones, or of sincere-hearted men"

General Ludd - the Apparently fictional Leader of the Luddites. Workers in Nottingham who would destroy their workplaces in retalliation to lower wages and terrible working conditions. They argued for a socialist economy in the early 1800s.
http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:-Z684ABb2aCdhM:http://www.cottontimes.co.uk/cottonpix/ned%2520luddo.jpg
"Those engines of mischief are sentenced to die, by unanimous vote of the trade"

Nestor Makhno - Ukranian Anarchist and Leader of the Revolutionary Inssurectionary Army of Ukraine. Fought the bolsheviks and the whites and later wrote the Organisational Platform of the Libertarian Communists.
http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:FsgLi3KR_y2R_M:http://www.anarca-bolo.ch/a-rivista/311/img/57.jpg
"Workers of the world. Look to the bottom of your hearts, there you will find truth"


Bueneventura Durruti - Spainish Anarchist. Lead the Durruti Collumn, 3000 men who left Anarchist Catalonia to fight the Fascists in Madrid. He was shot dead defending Madrid in November 1936.

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:z0rdW5sj6aNhkM:http://maixlalibertad.googlepages.com/Buenaventura-Durruti.jpg
"The only Church that illuminates is a burning one"

[careyprice31]

Makhno was pretty cool. Don't really know the rest

oh and Kropotkin I have some respect for. He went to talk to Lenin about his use of violence and all the bad things that was happening that his government was doing but Lenin would have none of it.

Red October

:crying:

because I didnt write you. I wrote u.

Grrr.

[jaffe]

http://libcom.org/files/marinus-van-der-lubbe.jpg

Marinus van der Lubbe

Dutch council communist who set the Reichstag fire


Makhno

http://dwardmac.pitzer.edu/anarchist_archives/bright/makhno/makhno_01.jpg

Durruti

http://www.esfazil.com/kaosenlared.net/media/2004/428_1_Durruti_01.jpg

[RHIZOMES]

Lenin, Mao, Marx, Engels, Malcolm X, etc.

[careyprice31]

Oh. Dr. King. Martin Luther King. He was cool too. I like him as well.

and when David Suzuki dies and becomes a name in the history books, I'd say him as well. cause I really love him.

[Kropotesta]

patrick swayze

[Gitfiddle Jim]

Durruti, Wat Tyler, Nestor Makhno, Fred Hampton, Che Guevara and the slave rebellion leaders such as Gaspar Yanga and Zumbi. All extremely righteous dudes.

[Gitfiddle Jim]

patrick swayze

Off topic, but apparently the bloke's only got five weeks to live.

[careyprice31]

Off topic, but apparently the blokes only got five weeks to live.

Then his name 'll end up in a history book maybe.

so he'll be all right to name here.

Oh.

I kind of also fancy Stenka Razin and Emiliyan Pugachov, the peasant leaders who led demands for reform (not revolution) in russia in the 17th and 18th centuries. I like them as well even though they were not revolutionary.

[Colonello Buendia]

I have an admiration for El Che,Durruti, Makhno, to some degree Trotsky, Rocker, the hungarian revolutionaries, WWII partisans, the Zapatistas, Walter Tyler, and the person who introduced me to Anarchy, Glen

[Holden Caulfield]

Trotsky & Malcom X

[Awful Reality]

Trotsky, Cannon, El Che, Fidel, Mao, Lenin, Eugene Debs.

Kamenev... NOT.

[Tower of Bebel]

Marx, Engels, Kautsky, Connoly, Luxemburg, Liebknecht, Lenin, Zetkin and Trotsky.

(edit:) Marat and Robespierre too.

[Invader Zim]

Olaudah Equiano.

[Raisa]

Prophet Muhammad Peace Be Upon Him, Malcom X, Abraham, Professor Angela Davis, Nadezhda Krypskaya cause she had Lenin hit it.
And Lenin. Ho Chi Minh, Definately the Black Panthers, Zapata, Harriet Tubman, my momma,

[Raisa]

Oh yeah, my father,
And Hugo FUCKING Chavez.......thats my man right now.

CHAVEZ! YEEEEAH!

[Sankara1983]

Thomas Sankara, Cheddi Jagan, Toussaint Louverture, Samora Machel, Ramón Emeterio Betances, Zumbi, Walter Rodney, John Brown, C. L. R. James, Edward Oliver LeBlanc, Pasquale Paoli, Amílcar Cabral, Francisco I. Madero, Lázaro Cárdenas, Walter Lini, Sir Roger Casement, Hubert Harrison, Cyril Briggs, José Carlos Mariátegui, and others.

[careyprice31]

Trotsky, Cannon, El Che, Fidel, Mao, Lenin, Eugene Debs.

Kamenev... NOT.

so i am not surprised u do not like kamenev.

He and Trot never did like each other, and with u being a Trot.....Logical really xD

[RNK]

Let's play the name drop game!

Raisa, you make me glad I left the CC.

I admire Jesus. You've got to be quite the genius to still be scamming millions of guillible saps 2,000 years after you're dead. Muhammed too, in that regard. And that guy who said God spoke to him from a burning bush in the middle of the desert.

[careyprice31]

Let's play the name drop game!

Raisa, you make me glad I left the CC.

I admire Jesus. You've got to be quite the genius to still be scamming millions of guillible saps 2,000 years after you're dead. Muhammed too, in that regard. And that guy who said God spoke to him from a burning bush in the middle of the desert.

That was Moses. Famous figure of Jewish history.

[Die Neue Zeit]

Cromwell, Robespierre, Lincoln, Marx, Kautsky (for all his revisionist faults), Lenin, Luxemburg, Connolly, Gramsci, Bordiga, and even Ho Chi Minh (for launching a proper national-democratic revolution) and Martin Luther King Jr. (non-parliamentary means of agitating successfully for minimum demands).

[RHIZOMES]

Let's play the name drop game!

Raisa, you make me glad I left the CC.

I admire Jesus. You've got to be quite the genius to still be scamming millions of guillible saps 2,000 years after you're dead. Muhammed too, in that regard. And that guy who said God spoke to him from a burning bush in the middle of the desert.

:thumbup:

[Bilan]

Fred Hampton, Beunoventura Durruti, Marx, Errico Malatesta, Nestor Makhno, Peter Kropotkin, Guy Debord, Daniel Cohn-Bendit, Joe Hill, Alexander Berkman, Emiliano Zapata, Huey P. Newton, Malcolm X, Sherman Austin, etc.
Off the top of my head, that is.

[darkened day 92]

Malcolm X he is my favourit human being, saied Quateb (a heroic islamist philospher ), Sacco and Venzziti, Ruben Hurrcain carter, lennin, trotsky, Che Guevara, Fidel Castro (my hero), Bob Dylan (his poetic style), Stephan Crane well i really felt sorry for him, Woodrow Wilson (he ment well),Saad Zaghlul (leader of the failed 1919 revolution against british imperialists), And anyone who fought imperialism in their country

[The Douche]

Malcolm X he is my favourit human being, saied Quateb (a heroic islamist philospher ), Sacco and Venzziti, Ruben Hurrcain carter, lennin, trotsky, Che Guevara, Fidel Castro (my hero), Bob Dylan (his poetic style), Stephan Crane well i really felt sorry for him, Woodrow Wilson (he ment well),Saad Zaghlul (leader of the failed 1919 revolution against british imperialists), And anyone who fought imperialism in their country

Woodrow wilson initiated the first "red scare". He broke, imprisoned, and killed the IWW. And initiated all kinds of imperialist ventures in South America. Fuck that guy. He did mean well, well for capitalism.

[Nakidana]

Most have already been mentioned, but Frantz Fanon has really been a big inspiration to me. First time I read his stuff I was like: "Finally someone who tells it like it is". ;)

[RHIZOMES]

Woodrow Wilson (he ment well)

He was also a racist fuck. Your admiration for that asshole + Malcolm X = ???

[Awful Reality]

so i am not surprised u do not like kamenev.

He and Trot never did like each other, and with u being a Trot.....Logical really xD
Well in the end, Trotsky and Kamenev did end up in the same opposition camp...

But Kamenev was still a jerk.

[Awful Reality]

Malcolm X he is my favourit human being, saied Quateb (a heroic islamist philospher ), Sacco and Venzziti, Ruben Hurrcain carter, lennin, trotsky, Che Guevara, Fidel Castro (my hero), Bob Dylan (his poetic style), Stephan Crane well i really felt sorry for him, Woodrow Wilson (he ment well),Saad Zaghlul (leader of the failed 1919 revolution against british imperialists), And anyone who fought imperialism in their country
I think I'll ignore the rampant bullshit and hypocrisy here.

[Prairie Fire]

No one has mentioned me :(


All Five classics: Marx, Engels,Lenin,Stalin,Hoxha.

Other than that, Huey P, John Reed, Malcolm X, Bill Bland ,Hardial Baines, Ludo Martens, Mao Zedong (to some extent)

[Die Neue Zeit]

^^^ Self-aggrandizement :(

[chimx]

Most of my avatars come from historical figures that I identify with or find inspired.


http://www.the-romans.co.uk/gallery2/full/republic10.jpg

Gaius Gracchus

wiki: "a Roman politician of the 2nd century BC. He was the younger brother of Tiberius Gracchus and, like him, pursued a popular political agenda that ultimately ended in his death. Gaius was indirectly killed by the Roman faction of the Optimates, which some believe convinced his slave to kill him."

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François-Noël Babeuf]

wiki: [i]a French political agitator and journalist of the Revolutionary period. He was executed for his role in the Conspiracy of the Equals. Although the words "socialist" and "communist" did not exist in Babeuf's lifetime, they have both been used to describe his ideas, by later scholars. The word "communism" was coined by Goodwyn Barmby in a conversation with those he described as the "disciples of Babeuf".

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Jean-Paul Marat

wiki: a Swiss-born French physician, philosopher, political theorist and scientist best known as a radical journalist and politician from the French Revolution. His journalism was renowned for its fiery character and uncompromising stance towards the new government, "enemies of the revolution" and basic reforms for the poorest members of society. His persistent persecution, consistent voice and uncanny predictive powers brought him the trust of the people and made him the main bridge between them and the radical Jacobin group that came to power in June 1793. For two short months, leading up to the downfall of the Girondin faction in June, he was one of the three most important men in France, alongside Danton and Robespierre. He was stabbed to death in his bathtub by the Girondin sympathizer Charlotte Corday.

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Sigmund Freud

wiki: "an Austrian neurologist and psychiatrist who founded the psychoanalytic school of psychology. Freud is best known for his theories of the unconscious mind and the defense mechanism of repression. He is also renowned for his redefinition of sexual desire as the primary motivational energy of human life which is directed toward a wide variety of objects; as well as his therapeutic techniques, including his theory of transference in the therapeutic relationship and the presumed value of dreams as sources of insight into unconscious desires.

Freud is commonly referred to as "the father of psychoanalysis" and his work has been highly influential — popularizing such notions as the unconscious, the Oedipus complex, defense mechanisms, Freudian slips and dream symbolism—while also making a long-lasting impact on fields as diverse as literature, film, Marxist and feminist theories, and psychology. An enormously controversial figure during his lifetime, he remains the subject of vigorous and even bitter debate, with the value of his legacy frequently disputed."

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Jupiter

wiki: In Roman mythology, Jupiter held the same role as Zeus in the Greek pantheon. He was called Juppiter Optimus Maximus Soter (Jupiter Best, Greatest, Saviour); as the patron deity of the Roman state, he ruled over laws and social order. He was the chief god of the Capitoline Triad, with Juno and Minerva. In Latin mythology Jupiter is the father of Mars. Therefore, Jupiter is the grandfather of Romulus and Remus, the founders of Rome.

[Bright Banana Beard]

Jesus H. Christ, Prophet Muhammad, Moses for being labeled as reactionary when we really don't know what happen to them and their opinion and we will never know. Karl Marx, Wat Tyler, Che Guevara, Fidel Castro, Emma Goldman, Founder of Taoism, Lenin, Bakunin, Makhno, Kropotkin & Albert Schweitzer.

[Die Neue Zeit]

^^^ With those three, at least we don't have backward cultures that practice child sacrifice and sex rituals. :)

[Raisa]

Jesus H. Christ, Prophet Muhammad, Moses for being labeled as reactionary"

You know, despite what alot of "people" think Im not sure what prophet muhammad peace and blessings to him did that was really reactionary.
Everything he did at the time was radical.
And then, when it wasnt enough, he took it to the face of his opressors.
I know alot of people mean well, but I dont think they really know the story of Prophet Muhammad.
It wasnt till I got older that I really began to apreciate it his example and what he did with his life untill I took alook around some common things in my own life, and really apreciated the legacies HE (not people's sermons) left behind.
The Prophet of Islam had been revealed a message telling him to tell people that they have no one to submit to but Allah. This was at a time people were being forced to worship idols, and follow religions people invented to opress them...along with that message came messages like "women and men are from the same soul and women have the right to own property and the right to vote and participate in politics, and have the right to marry and divorce who they want, and are not objects or lesser animals, should not be controlled, or abused, amity for hte poor, animal rights because according to the quran "there are no 'animals' there are communities of living things like yourselves' and also from islam came the belief that a man should accept no opressors or exploiters, and that it is his duty to participate in its abolishion as a caretaker of the woman and child. Also racial equality and the fact that nations do not matter. Alot of the same things we believed prophet muhammad had revealed to him in an apropriate way at the time. And he stood up for that like a man, I dont think Muhammad(pbuh) is reactionary at all. If you put him in the world we live in today I dont think hed have much to argue with you about.
I really do admire Prophet Muhammad may he be blessed, Im sorry some of the people who read this with anger dont understand the value of his examples or his story.
He taught men how to treat women, he taught adults how to treat children...when people were living in a world where women were property and people buried baby girls,,and cut peices off of living animals to eat and then let then walk away instead of killing the whole animal because then it would expire quicker. And his examples are still relevant, about being elegant and having dignity no matter what, and not being a cheauvanist, or an exploiter.
I am not phased by a person who gives me shit for giving the Messenger of Allah his respect, the man was a revolutionary if ever there was one.

[Nakidana]

Jesus H. Christ, Prophet Muhammad, Moses for being labeled as reactionary"

You know, despite what alot of "people" think Im not sure what prophet muhammad peace and blessings to him did that was really reactionary.
Everything he did at the time was radical.
And then, when it wasnt enough, he took it to the face of his opressors.
I know alot of people mean well, but I dont think they really know the story of Prophet Muhammad.
It wasnt till I got older that I really began to apreciate it his example and what he did with his life untill I took alook around some common things in my own life, and really apreciated the legacies HE (not people's sermons) left behind.
The Prophet of Islam had been revealed a message telling him to tell people that they have no one to submit to but Allah. This was at a time people were being forced to worship idols, and follow religions people invented to opress them...along with that message came messages like "women and men are from the same soul and women have the right to own property and the right to vote and participate in politics, and have the right to marry and divorce who they want, and are not objects or lesser animals, should not be controlled, or abused, amity for hte poor, animal rights because according to the quran "there are no 'animals' there are communities of living things like yourselves' and also from islam came the belief that a man should accept no opressors or exploiters, and that it is his duty to participate in its abolishion as a caretaker of the woman and child. Also racial equality and the fact that nations do not matter. Alot of the same things we believed prophet muhammad had revealed to him in an apropriate way at the time. And he stood up for that like a man, I dont think Muhammad(pbuh) is reactionary at all. If you put him in the world we live in today I dont think hed have much to argue with you about.
I really do admire Prophet Muhammad may he be blessed, Im sorry some of the people who read this with anger dont understand the value of his examples or his story.
He taught men how to treat women, he taught adults how to treat children...when people were living in a world where women were property and people buried baby girls,,and cut peices off of living animals to eat and then let then walk away instead of killing the whole animal because then it would expire quicker. And his examples are still relevant, about being elegant and having dignity no matter what, and not being a cheauvanist, or an exploiter.
I am not phased by a person who gives me shit for giving the Messenger of Allah his respect, the man was a revolutionary if ever there was one.

I agree wholeheartedly with you comrade, but sadly some people would rather label the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) a pedophile in order to piss off Muslims than realise the progressive things he did.

For anyone interested in the subject I can recommend Karen Armstrong's "Islam: A Short History". It's a great introduction to the history of Islam. ;)

[Raisa]

"I agree wholeheartedly with you comrade, but sadly some people would rather label Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) a pedophile in order to piss off Muslims than realise the progressive things he did."

I know, and as much as I wish to write it off and say "fuck those people!" I cant, becasue tehy just DONT KNOW any better. I wish they'd check theyself.
Its sad seeing your comrades fall for fox news propaganda in the face of the legacy of a real man.
assalamuleikum wa rahmatullah

[Die Neue Zeit]

^^^ What about Moses? [And while we're on the subject of Moses, I'll also add that other Moses - Maimonides ("from Moses to Moses") - to the non-socialist figures of history whom I most admire.]

Human sacrifice was a no-no (and abortion was OK), debts and loans had to be cancelled every seven years, slaves had to be freed during those same years (unless the slave explicitly really wanted to stay), and land had to revert back to their original title-holders every 50 years:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jubilee_(Biblical)

The other Moses also stated that animal sacrifice was, from the destruction of the Temple onwards, a no-no (justifying Biblical sacrifice on the basis of weaning people away from pagan traditions, that such sacrifice was permitted within certain constraints).



Again, this is all within the context of the slave, feudal, and Asiatic modes of production.

[Awful Reality]

Human sacrifice was a no-no (and abortion was OK), debts and loans had to be cancelled every seven years, slaves had to be freed during those same years (unless the slave explicitly really wanted to stay), and land had to revert back to their original title-holders every 50 years:


If we're talking about Judaism, yes, and then there was the warmongering, the very existence of slaves in the first place, male chauvinism, chauvinism, animal abuse, and of course, the genocide.

[careyprice31]

"Well in the end, Trotsky and Kamenev did end up in the same opposition camp...

But Kamenev was still a jerk."

Out of necessity they ended up in the same camp as allies.

I suspect their dislike for each other led to Kamenev's divorce from Olga Davidovna, Trotsky's sister.

(i do not know if I would be able to marry someone when i can't stand their family lol)`

[Forward Union]

Everything he did at the time was radical.

Especially where he flew up into the clouds to become one with a magical invisable sky wisard.

Gandalf was a better character though.

opps wrong book.

[Raisa]

Im very disapointed at that display of unjustified unintelligence from a moderator of a leftist forum.

:(
Prophet Muhammad....peace and blessings to the man, was one of the greatest revolutionaries of his time, and still is, I am sorry you dont know his story.

[spartan]

For his time the Prophet Muhammad was very radical just like the Buddha, Guru Nanak, Jesus, Mani, Moses, Socrates and Zarathustra were.

The trouble with Muhammad's belief system (like that of any other religious revolutionary) is that it doesnt go quite far enough (There is alot of compromises to satisfy certain sections of society such as landowners and rich people) and is often quite repressive to certain sections of society (Homosexuals, women, etc).

It also creates unneeded hierarchies whose members have their own intrests that are fullfilled with the immense amount of power that they are given due to their special position in society (Which is all to often abused because these people dont practice what they preach).

So yeah Muhammad was probably a step foward for his time but definately isnt an example that we Socialists should follow in our modern secular times.

Either way i have nothing against people who wish to follow his teachings (And who also consider themselves Socialist) as long as they dont go forcing it down other peoples throats and start persecuting certain people because a book writen thousands of years ago says you should.

[Die Neue Zeit]

If we're talking about Judaism, yes, and then there was the warmongering, the very existence of slaves in the first place, male chauvinism, chauvinism, animal abuse, and of course, the genocide.

Slavery was existent in almost every religion during the slave mode of production. You can't have an absence of slaves in the slave mode of production, can you? :rolleyes:

wanton slavery so prevalent in the Mideast.]

Warmongering? Ditto with most other religions, anyway. :glare:

Male chauvinism? Ditto with most other religions, anyway. :glare:

National chauvinism? Well, since Judaism was/is a "national" religion... :glare:

Animal abuse? Depends on your definition of animal abuse, considering that tearing the flesh out of live animals (whether for food or rituals) was prohibited. The modern concern today would be those in the sharks' fins industry (shark's fin soup).

[Comrade Nadezhda]

Karl Marx, Friedrich Engels, Vladimir Lenin, Joseph Stalin, Enver Hoxha, Che Guevara, John Reed,..


If we're talking about Judaism, yes, and then there was the warmongering, the very existence of slaves in the first place, male chauvinism, chauvinism, animal abuse, and of course, the genocide.
How are these exclusively present in Judaism? The same is true for ALL religions. What about christianity? Islam?

[Tower of Bebel]

Why does Jesus Christ come back every time? Have none of you read Bebel (A.)? He was a sect leader, like many others, agrandised by Paul (Paulus) as a means to break with the Jewish law and religion.
Most people just ignore the reactionary purpose of the Bible, and forget about the bad things it says. They only remember the good things of Jesus without any sort of context.


Woman then is an object, a piece of property, that man should not desire if in someone else’s possession. Jesus, who belonged to a sect that maintained rigorous asceticism and practised voluntary emasculation, when asked by his disciples whether it were well to marry, replied: All men cannot receive this saying save they to whom it is given. For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother’s womb; and there are some eunuchs which were made eunuchs of men; and there be eunuchs which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven’s sake.
According to this, then, emasculation is agreeable to God, and renunciation of love and marriage is a worthy deed. St. Paul, who may be called the founder of Christianity even more so than Jesus himself, St. Paul, who removed this creed from the narrow Jewish sectarianism and gave it its international character, writes to the Corynthians: Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: it is good for a man not to touch a woman. Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife and let every woman have her own husband.

[JDHURF]

Karl Marx, Mikhail Bakunin, Rosa Luxemburg, Herman Gorder[, Karl Korsch, Karl Liebknecht, Peter Kropotkin, Emile Pouget, Max Netllau, Lucy Parsons, Alexander Berkman, Emma Goldman, Anton Pannekoek, Rudolf Rocker, Raya Dunayevskaya, Jean-Paul Sartre, Eugene V. Debs, Martin Luther King Jr, A. Philip Randolf, Bayard Rustin, Malcolm X, Erich Fromm, Max Horkhiemer, Theodor Adorno, Hermert Marcuse, Paul Mattick….



Contemporary:


Noam Chomsky, Murray Bookchin, Daniel Guerin, Arundhati Roy, Tariq Ali, Slavoj Zizek...

[lombas]

A strange mix of Christian theologians and philosophers, anarchists, libertarians, conservatives, left-communists and communists.

"Admire" is too strong a word though.

[Os Cangaceiros]

- Emma Goldman.
- Peter Kropotkin.
- Benjamin Tucker.
- Henry David Thoreau.
- George Orwell.
- Carlo Tresca.
- Errico Malatesta.
- Eugene V. Debs
- Voltairine De Cleyre
- Buenaventura Durruti
- Albert and Lucy Parsons.

Those are some of the people that I have a personal admiration for. There are also a few who aren't on the socialist left who I like, including quite a few of the classical liberals. A lot of the radical abolitionists as well, like William Lloyd Garrison, Lysander Spooner, and John Brown.

[Panda Tse Tung]

Marx, Engels, Lenin, Stalin, Mao,
Ludo Martens,
Michael Parenti,
Paul de Groot,
Malcolm X,
Che Guevara &
Bob Avakian (yes, he has plenty of good things :P)

[Ell Carino]

Jesus Christ, Buddha, Guru Nanak, Dante, George Orwell, Martin L.King, Malcolm X, Huey P., Tupac Shakur, Winston Churchill, Che Guevara, Fidel Castro, Wat Tyler, Da Vinci, Michaelangelo, Mozart, Beethoven, Tzychovsky (sp?), John Lennon, Bob Dylan, Queen Elizabeth II, Julius Caeser, Ovid, Aristotle, Plato, Socrates, Homer, Einstein, Stephen Hawkings, Pele, Abraham Lincoln, Charles Dickins, William Shakespeare, Galileo, Alfred Hitchcock, Francis Ford Coppola.... the list is endless, there have been so many great people.

[UndergroundConnexion]

Fidel , Jaures , Drees , Domela Nieuwenhuizen , Che, Camilo Cienfuegos ,

[Tower of Bebel]

What's so special about Ludo Martens? I've seen some of his books (Revolution in Congo and Another view of Stalin), but are they that special?

[Panda Tse Tung]

Well, the thesis that revisionism is merely a degenerated form of Socialism came from the WPB when he was the secretary-General. So, since this is about 'figures of history', i figured i couldn't say 'WPB'. And his contributions surrounding a lot of questions such as indeed the Stalin-question are really important.

[Gitfiddle Jim]

Jesus H. Christ, Prophet Muhammad, Moses for being labeled as reactionary"

You know, despite what alot of "people" think Im not sure what prophet muhammad peace and blessings to him did that was really reactionary.
Everything he did at the time was radical.
And then, when it wasnt enough, he took it to the face of his opressors.
I know alot of people mean well, but I dont think they really know the story of Prophet Muhammad.
It wasnt till I got older that I really began to apreciate it his example and what he did with his life untill I took alook around some common things in my own life, and really apreciated the legacies HE (not people's sermons) left behind.
The Prophet of Islam had been revealed a message telling him to tell people that they have no one to submit to but Allah. This was at a time people were being forced to worship idols, and follow religions people invented to opress them...along with that message came messages like "women and men are from the same soul and women have the right to own property and the right to vote and participate in politics, and have the right to marry and divorce who they want, and are not objects or lesser animals, should not be controlled, or abused, amity for hte poor, animal rights because according to the quran "there are no 'animals' there are communities of living things like yourselves' and also from islam came the belief that a man should accept no opressors or exploiters, and that it is his duty to participate in its abolishion as a caretaker of the woman and child. Also racial equality and the fact that nations do not matter. Alot of the same things we believed prophet muhammad had revealed to him in an apropriate way at the time. And he stood up for that like a man, I dont think Muhammad(pbuh) is reactionary at all. If you put him in the world we live in today I dont think hed have much to argue with you about.
I really do admire Prophet Muhammad may he be blessed, Im sorry some of the people who read this with anger dont understand the value of his examples or his story.
He taught men how to treat women, he taught adults how to treat children...when people were living in a world where women were property and people buried baby girls,,and cut peices off of living animals to eat and then let then walk away instead of killing the whole animal because then it would expire quicker. And his examples are still relevant, about being elegant and having dignity no matter what, and not being a cheauvanist, or an exploiter.
I am not phased by a person who gives me shit for giving the Messenger of Allah his respect, the man was a revolutionary if ever there was one.

Lol!

[Tower of Bebel]

What Kautsky has to say on the traditional Jesus-figure is practically summed up on page 19, where the author insists that the historical kernel of the Jesus legend amounts to no more than Tacitus reports, to the effect that during the reign of Tiberius a Jewish prophet was executed, from whom the Christian sect took its origin. “What this prophet did and thought,” observes Kautsky, “we have not the slightest means of ascertaining with any certainty. In no case could he have aroused the attention alleged by the early Christian writers, otherwise assuredly Josephus, who relates many unimportant matters, would have had something to say about him. [1] (http://www.marxists.org/archive/bax/1912/probs/13-kautsky.htm#n1) The agitation and execution of Jesus unquestionably excited not the least interest among his contemporaries.”

http://www.marxists.org/archive/bax/1912/probs/13-kautsky.htm



As has been recently pointed out, the mystical Christ of the Pauline Epistles in the later theology has nothing really in common with the patriotic rebel leader of the reign of Tiberius. The former is a supernatural or quasi-supernatural being, with no essential relation to any mortal individual. (Cf. Brückner, Die Enstehung der paulinischen Christologie, 1903, 12; also Drews’ Christmythus.) For Paul, the historical existence of any human being who played a part in the social and religious struggles of contemporary Palestine, and to whom the origin of the Christian sect could be traced, would probably have been a matter of complete indifference. What he was interested in was the new mystical interpretation of the old corn-god myth which meets us in so many guises in the cults and legends of the ancient world. In its new interpretation, the story of the god or the god-man dying and rising again became a symbol of the mediative agency between the individual soul and the world-soul, between the all-powerful creative persona and its imperfect created image. It was the symbol of an eternal process. As Professor Drews has said, Paul would not have regarded the execution of any individual human being as being anything more than the accomplishment of a symbolical rite, the personality of the victim in any particular case being a matter of indifference. The few passages in the Pauline Epistles in which the historical Jesus is referred to, the same writer shows good grounds for regarding as later interpolations. In any case, an historical mundane Christ-personality does not seem to fit in with the main system of the Pauline theology.

Idem.

Goodbye Jesus 'Christ'. Everyone who believes Jesus is a symbol, a person to be admired should know that he/she doesn't know who this person really was.

[Comrade Hector]

Karl Marx, Friedrich Engels, Vladimir Lenin, Leon Trotsky, Ho Chi Minh, Che Guevara, James P. Cannon, Rosa Luxemburg, Karl Liebknecht

[Crest]

Yehoshua (Jesus) the Nazarene, Karl Marx, William Shakespere, Leonardo da Vinci, Karl Marx, Friedrich Engels, Vladmir Lenin, Leon Trotsky, Mao Zedong, and anyone who knows the word "you"

[Trystan]

I have no heroes, but there are plenty of people who I admire and respect:

George Orwell
Arthur Rimbaud
Noam Chomsky
Albert Camus
Jean Paul Sartre
Andre Gide

[Xiao Banfa]

Michael Joseph Savage, Prophet Mohammed, James Connolly, Vladimir Lenin, Fidel Castro...