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7th March 2008, 03:09
Editor of Marxist.com speaks at Eton
By In Defence of Marxism
Thursday, 06 March 2008 http://www.marxist.com/images/stories/britain/alan_at_eton1.jpg Alan Woods talks to the Orwell Society
On Tuesday, March 4, Alan Woods, the editor of Marxist.com, spoke at Eton. For the non-British readers of Marxist.com who do not know, Eton is the most prestigious "public" (that is, private) school in Britain, attended by the sons of the rich and aristocratic families that have traditionally ruled the country. One of its best-known former pupils was the famous left-wing writer George Orwell, author of 1984, Animal Farm and Homage to Catalonia. The Orwell Society at Eton was formed to provide a forum for left-wing views at the school, and Alan was invited by the Society to speak on the subject "Is Marxism still relevant today?"
The meeting was well attended, with 26 students present. The room was full and extra chairs had to be brought in. Alan spoke for about 40 minutes and the interest of the audience was palpable. He opened by countering the myth of the death of Marxism: "They have been saying the same thing every year for the last 150 years. The question is: why do they bother? Why do they continue to attack Marxism if it is really irrelevant?" Alan then went on to describe the Communist Manifesto as "the most modern of all books" and justified this assertion by pointing to the fact that a book written over 150 years ago was able to predict and explain the phenomenon of globalisation.
Dealing with the argument that socialism is contrary to human nature, he said: "So-called human nature has changed many times over the centuries and millennia. Our ancestors were cannibals and they doubtless considered cannibalism to be a product of immutable human nature. Similarly slavery was regarded as completely natural and inevitable. The great Aristotle showed his genius by questioning whether slavery was moral. Nobody else even bothered to ask the question. And even Aristotle was forced to conclude that slavery was moral because the slaves lacked a soul and therefore were not real human beings.
"In the same way today people think that capitalism, its institutions and morality are something permanent. In fact, capitalism has only existed for the last 200 years. It is a relatively recent phenomenon, which has now outlived its historical usefulness."
The speaker went on to expose the failings of the "free market economy". He pointed to the fact that in 1940, when Britain had its back to the wall, with Hitler's armies at the gates, the government centralised the economy, nationalized key industries and introduced measures of planning. "Why did they do this instead of relying on market forces? The answer is very simple: because it got better results," he said.
http://www.marxist.com/images/stories/britain/alan_at_eton2.jpg
He went on to expose the hypocrisy of the talk about private enterprise: "It is said that the entrepreneurs take risks for which they must be rewarded. But what risks did the owners of Northern Rock run? As soon as they ran into serious difficulties they rushed cap in hand to the state, and Gordon Brown came running with an open chequebook to bail them out with public money. In the USA wealthy farmers are paid huge subsidies by the state to produce ethanol, which is driving up food prices and causing hunger worldwide."
Alan then went on to deal with the "socialism" of the USSR: "What failed in the USSR was not socialism in any sense understood by Marx or Lenin but a bureaucratic and totalitarian caricature of socialism," he explained. However, despite the crimes of Stalin and the bureaucracy, the Soviet Union demonstrated the colossal potential of a nationalised planned economy: "Tsarist Russia was a poor, backward country, like Pakistan today. Most of its people were illiterate. Yet by the 1980s, the USSR had more scientists, engineers and technicians than the USA, Britain, Germany and Japan together, and they were of a very high quality," he said.
Afterwards, there was a very lively session of questions and answers. The first question was: "Do you think that communism is inevitable?" To this Alan replied in the affirmative, but added a warning: "Marx said that the alternative before humanity is socialism or barbarism. That is still true today, with the difference that if the capitalist system is allowed to continue it will eventually signify the destruction of the environment. It is the greed for profit that is behind the global crisis that is destroying the planet and threatening the very existence of life on earth. The only solution is a rational plan of production on a global scale. The alternative will be a further decline of civilisation and culture and eventually there will be a question mark over the survival of the human race itself."
Another student asked whether Lenin was really a continuer of Marx. Alan answered emphatically in the affirmative and explained that there was nothing in common between Stalinism and Leninism. A student from Hong Kong asked about China. Was it not the case that market economics had succeeded there? Alan said that China had a vast potential, but that potential only began to be realised with the Revolution of 1949. The institution of a nationalized planned economy transformed China just as it had transformed tsarist Russia: "Where did all these qualified Chinese workers, scientists and technicians come from?" he asked. They are the products of a nationalized planned economy.
http://www.marxist.com/images/stories/britain/alan_at_eton3.jpg Alan explained that socialism in one country was impossible. Marx and Engels explained in the Communist Manifesto that capitalism begins by creating a national market but goes on to create a world market: "The most important feature of the present epoch is precisely the crushing domination of the world market. No country, no matter how big, can escape from the pull of the world market. That was true of Russia and it is also true of China. Mao's idea of autarky was a reactionary utopia that seriously distorted China's economic development. But now the participation of China in the world market is pulling it in the direction of capitalism.
"It is true that the participation of China in world trade has acted as a powerful stimulus to the development of the productive forces. China's economy is growing at ten or eleven percent a year. But at what cost? There are about 150 million unemployed and Chinese workers are subjected to the most brutal exploitation in the factories. There are an appalling number of accidents in the workplaces. There is a colossal increase in inequality both in town and country. There are savage cuts in health and social services. The people of China are prepared to tolerate these things temporarily because they believe things will get better. But the introduction of capitalism in China is preparing a serious crisis of overproduction (the economists are already warning about "overheating"). This will have very serious effects in China in the next period.
Another student asked about Marx's attitude to alienation. Alan replied that the fundamental form of alienation in capitalism is the alienation of the worker from the wealth he or she produces. The majority are deprived of the things they need. People's lives are dominated by this constant search for things that ought to be taken for granted. He quoted the words of Aristotle: "Man begins to philosophise when the needs of life are provided." And he added a quote from Trotsky: "How many Aristotles are herding swine? How many swineherds are sitting on thrones?"
He went on to explain that alienation underlies all social existence under capitalism: "The real God in this society is not Jehovah, Buddha or Allah. The real God is Money. In this society men and women are enslaved to these little bits of paper. People will even kill to obtain them. A young man will stab another youngster to possess a pair of trainers that the admen have convinced him are essential for his existence. These are the values of capitalist society."
In summing up, Alan said: "I do not know whether I have convinced you of the correctness of Marxism. But even if I have not, I hope at least to have aroused your interest in reading and studying these ideas for yourselves. My aim in coming here was not just to pass an entertaining evening but to make you think for yourselves, to question the society in which we live and to draw some conclusions. The question I want you to think about is this: is this really the kind of world we want to live in? Is this the best that the human race can do in the 21st century? I do not believe that it is.
"If you ask me to say what socialism really is, I will answer thus: it is to make the human race actually what it always was potentially. In order to do this a fundamental change in society is needed. In place of an economy based exclusively on the profit of the few we require an economic system based on production for the satisfaction of human needs. That is the only rational form of society, and that is what socialism is."
The talk was very well received by those present and the general interest was shown by the fact that the Marxist books on sale were immediately sold out.
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By In Defence of Marxism
Thursday, 06 March 2008 http://www.marxist.com/images/stories/britain/alan_at_eton1.jpg Alan Woods talks to the Orwell Society
On Tuesday, March 4, Alan Woods, the editor of Marxist.com, spoke at Eton. For the non-British readers of Marxist.com who do not know, Eton is the most prestigious "public" (that is, private) school in Britain, attended by the sons of the rich and aristocratic families that have traditionally ruled the country. One of its best-known former pupils was the famous left-wing writer George Orwell, author of 1984, Animal Farm and Homage to Catalonia. The Orwell Society at Eton was formed to provide a forum for left-wing views at the school, and Alan was invited by the Society to speak on the subject "Is Marxism still relevant today?"
The meeting was well attended, with 26 students present. The room was full and extra chairs had to be brought in. Alan spoke for about 40 minutes and the interest of the audience was palpable. He opened by countering the myth of the death of Marxism: "They have been saying the same thing every year for the last 150 years. The question is: why do they bother? Why do they continue to attack Marxism if it is really irrelevant?" Alan then went on to describe the Communist Manifesto as "the most modern of all books" and justified this assertion by pointing to the fact that a book written over 150 years ago was able to predict and explain the phenomenon of globalisation.
Dealing with the argument that socialism is contrary to human nature, he said: "So-called human nature has changed many times over the centuries and millennia. Our ancestors were cannibals and they doubtless considered cannibalism to be a product of immutable human nature. Similarly slavery was regarded as completely natural and inevitable. The great Aristotle showed his genius by questioning whether slavery was moral. Nobody else even bothered to ask the question. And even Aristotle was forced to conclude that slavery was moral because the slaves lacked a soul and therefore were not real human beings.
"In the same way today people think that capitalism, its institutions and morality are something permanent. In fact, capitalism has only existed for the last 200 years. It is a relatively recent phenomenon, which has now outlived its historical usefulness."
The speaker went on to expose the failings of the "free market economy". He pointed to the fact that in 1940, when Britain had its back to the wall, with Hitler's armies at the gates, the government centralised the economy, nationalized key industries and introduced measures of planning. "Why did they do this instead of relying on market forces? The answer is very simple: because it got better results," he said.
http://www.marxist.com/images/stories/britain/alan_at_eton2.jpg
He went on to expose the hypocrisy of the talk about private enterprise: "It is said that the entrepreneurs take risks for which they must be rewarded. But what risks did the owners of Northern Rock run? As soon as they ran into serious difficulties they rushed cap in hand to the state, and Gordon Brown came running with an open chequebook to bail them out with public money. In the USA wealthy farmers are paid huge subsidies by the state to produce ethanol, which is driving up food prices and causing hunger worldwide."
Alan then went on to deal with the "socialism" of the USSR: "What failed in the USSR was not socialism in any sense understood by Marx or Lenin but a bureaucratic and totalitarian caricature of socialism," he explained. However, despite the crimes of Stalin and the bureaucracy, the Soviet Union demonstrated the colossal potential of a nationalised planned economy: "Tsarist Russia was a poor, backward country, like Pakistan today. Most of its people were illiterate. Yet by the 1980s, the USSR had more scientists, engineers and technicians than the USA, Britain, Germany and Japan together, and they were of a very high quality," he said.
Afterwards, there was a very lively session of questions and answers. The first question was: "Do you think that communism is inevitable?" To this Alan replied in the affirmative, but added a warning: "Marx said that the alternative before humanity is socialism or barbarism. That is still true today, with the difference that if the capitalist system is allowed to continue it will eventually signify the destruction of the environment. It is the greed for profit that is behind the global crisis that is destroying the planet and threatening the very existence of life on earth. The only solution is a rational plan of production on a global scale. The alternative will be a further decline of civilisation and culture and eventually there will be a question mark over the survival of the human race itself."
Another student asked whether Lenin was really a continuer of Marx. Alan answered emphatically in the affirmative and explained that there was nothing in common between Stalinism and Leninism. A student from Hong Kong asked about China. Was it not the case that market economics had succeeded there? Alan said that China had a vast potential, but that potential only began to be realised with the Revolution of 1949. The institution of a nationalized planned economy transformed China just as it had transformed tsarist Russia: "Where did all these qualified Chinese workers, scientists and technicians come from?" he asked. They are the products of a nationalized planned economy.
http://www.marxist.com/images/stories/britain/alan_at_eton3.jpg Alan explained that socialism in one country was impossible. Marx and Engels explained in the Communist Manifesto that capitalism begins by creating a national market but goes on to create a world market: "The most important feature of the present epoch is precisely the crushing domination of the world market. No country, no matter how big, can escape from the pull of the world market. That was true of Russia and it is also true of China. Mao's idea of autarky was a reactionary utopia that seriously distorted China's economic development. But now the participation of China in the world market is pulling it in the direction of capitalism.
"It is true that the participation of China in world trade has acted as a powerful stimulus to the development of the productive forces. China's economy is growing at ten or eleven percent a year. But at what cost? There are about 150 million unemployed and Chinese workers are subjected to the most brutal exploitation in the factories. There are an appalling number of accidents in the workplaces. There is a colossal increase in inequality both in town and country. There are savage cuts in health and social services. The people of China are prepared to tolerate these things temporarily because they believe things will get better. But the introduction of capitalism in China is preparing a serious crisis of overproduction (the economists are already warning about "overheating"). This will have very serious effects in China in the next period.
Another student asked about Marx's attitude to alienation. Alan replied that the fundamental form of alienation in capitalism is the alienation of the worker from the wealth he or she produces. The majority are deprived of the things they need. People's lives are dominated by this constant search for things that ought to be taken for granted. He quoted the words of Aristotle: "Man begins to philosophise when the needs of life are provided." And he added a quote from Trotsky: "How many Aristotles are herding swine? How many swineherds are sitting on thrones?"
He went on to explain that alienation underlies all social existence under capitalism: "The real God in this society is not Jehovah, Buddha or Allah. The real God is Money. In this society men and women are enslaved to these little bits of paper. People will even kill to obtain them. A young man will stab another youngster to possess a pair of trainers that the admen have convinced him are essential for his existence. These are the values of capitalist society."
In summing up, Alan said: "I do not know whether I have convinced you of the correctness of Marxism. But even if I have not, I hope at least to have aroused your interest in reading and studying these ideas for yourselves. My aim in coming here was not just to pass an entertaining evening but to make you think for yourselves, to question the society in which we live and to draw some conclusions. The question I want you to think about is this: is this really the kind of world we want to live in? Is this the best that the human race can do in the 21st century? I do not believe that it is.
"If you ask me to say what socialism really is, I will answer thus: it is to make the human race actually what it always was potentially. In order to do this a fundamental change in society is needed. In place of an economy based exclusively on the profit of the few we require an economic system based on production for the satisfaction of human needs. That is the only rational form of society, and that is what socialism is."
The talk was very well received by those present and the general interest was shown by the fact that the Marxist books on sale were immediately sold out.
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