One Weird Stalin Quote!!!!!

[nvm]

I found on a quote site this quote by stalin!

"Death solves all problems - no man, no problem."

Is it true? Because i can't believe that he admitted publicly . It is possible that he admitted his crimes?

[Qwerty Dvorak]

I'm no Stalinist but it's true, isn't it?

[Bright Banana Beard]

He did say that in bourgeois media. But he also said "One death is a tragedy; a million is a statistic."

[Honggweilo]

I found on a quote site this quote by stalin!

"Death solves all problems - no man, no problem."

Is it true? Because i can't believe that he admitted publicly . It is possible that he admitted his crimes?

No this was Stalin in his Nilhilist fase :cool:

[bezdomni]

Why don't you try looking up a source?

There are lots of bullshit Stalin quotes that are either based in a half-truth or are matters of complete invention.

[nvm]

Why don't you try looking up a source?

There are lots of bullshit Stalin quotes that are either based in a half-truth or are matters of complete invention.


lol i think this is a real one
how would u explain it?

[AGITprop]

I am not surprised.
Theres no denying Stalin was a killer, and that he killed to solve problems. We have seen it over and over when he eliminated the Old Guard and everyone around him out of paranoia. Also Trotsky, his biggest problem. Well I have never seen an ice-pick put to worse use.

[Dros]

I can't find anybody who cans show where he said this...

[nvm]

i found it here
http://thinkexist.com/quotation/death_solves_all_problems-no_man-no_problem/210458.html

[spartan]

I have seen this quote many times before and thought that it was common knowledge amongst those in the left?

Either way it could be that certain words were either mistranslated, or Stalin had a sudden bout of "wanting to tell the truth" syndrome?:D

[Prairie Fire]

Source?

you know, a lot of these quote websites either attribute the worng quotes or completely fabricated quotes to socialist leaders. I've seen this especially true with Lenin.

Anyways, the Quote that "One death is a tragedy; a million is a statistic" is, I think, actually quite insightful. If you are just looking at this quote from a position of "Everything Stalin did or didn't do was evil", then certainly this quotation seems sinister, but to me it seems to be a cynical remark on how deaths are reported in the media, and the randomness of the amount of significance that people assign to human life and it's loss.

It's like Stalins jab at parliamentary democracy where he said "The people who cast the votes decide nothing; the people who count the votes do";
if you are working from an "I hate Stalin" mindset, this sounds evil, but when you just read what he's saying, it is actually a valid observation on parliamentary democracy in the bourgois countries.

[Xiao Banfa]

I'm pretty sure that was made up.

[Awful Reality]

Source?

You know, a lot of these quote websites either attribute the wrong quotes or completely fabricated quotes to socialist leaders. I've seen this especially true with Lenin.


I've seen it in many places, I am inclined to believe that it's true.
It's a pretty common anti-Stalin quote, along with the "The death of one man..." which is often misconstrued among the "Stalin=Satan l4w720r2!!!!1" camp.

[Maybe-not]

Frankly i don't care what Stalin said, and i don't see why it matters. Stalin is past, good for us all. There is nothing political about this quote, or discussion, it's clinging to much to details.

But that's merely my humble opinion.

[Holden Caulfield]

Frankly i don't care what Stalin said, and i don't see why it matters. Stalin is past, good for us all. There is nothing political about this quote, or discussion, it's clinging to much to details.

But that's merely my humble opinion.

that would be nice, and welcome to the forum, but as you will find alot more people than your usualy psychopaths seem to have a soft spot for comrade joe and his ideals on here,

[darkened day 92]

He did say that in bourgeois media. But he also said "One death is a tragedy; a million is a statistic."
Napoleon said that too he said one death is a tragedy 14000 is a statistic

[Ismail]

J. Slavyanski wins on this:

6. Stalin's cynical quotes on some subjects prove how cruel he was. George Orwell's cynical comments show how well he grasped "ugly truths".Also it'd be nice if people didn't think that we believe everything the bourgeois says about Stalin. It isn't like we say "Yes, Stalin killed 20 million people personally and put the bodies in the gulags so it would appear they were working thus inflating production numbers to 631% which in fact failed to meet the quota of 632% thus warranting re-killing of the corpses which were subsequently burnt and sent to Hitler in secret trade deals negotiated after a night of torturing proletarians."

Instead it's more like "We believe Stalin built up a prosperous and free socialist society and built up the world socialist movement in general". We don't spend hours talking about "We're going to put all our opposition in gulags and torture them over and over!" like some 'Trotskyists' do. I actually condemn those that want to treat a revolution like a bloodbath and always point out Hoxha's quote on the revolution. (Note signature)

[Panda Tse Tung]

Ok, seriously. If wikiquote starts stating it's 'misattributed' it certainly is.

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Joseph_Stalin

All quotes granted here, are either in the 'unsourced' or the 'misattributed' list.

(And it's not like they hold high standards as to what is considered a 'source')

Edit: it's funny how they do their best on debunking Stalin while even most of their 'unsourced' quotes aren't THAT bad. For example:

A Lieutenant is not worth a General!
[after Kurt Daluege (http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Kurt_Daluege) offered Stalin back his son if Paulus was returned to the Germans. This is Stalin's refusal]Is absolutely a positive thing. For he didn't see his son as being more important then someone else's son. Funny thing is, that if he would have gotten his son back, he would have been attacked on being an opportunist, etc... etc...
Ohw, the irony of life...

[Demogorgon]

I am no fan of Stalin to say the least, but it looks more like the Black Humour stalin occasionally deployed than a political point.

[Die Neue Zeit]

Source?

you know, a lot of these quote websites either attribute the worng quotes or completely fabricated quotes to socialist leaders. I've seen this especially true with Lenin.

Anyways, the Quote that "One death is a tragedy; a million is a statistic" is, I think, actually quite insightful. If you are just looking at this quote from a position of "Everything Stalin did or didn't do was evil", then certainly this quotation seems sinister, but to me it seems to be a cynical remark on how deaths are reported in the media, and the randomness of the amount of significance that people assign to human life and it's loss.

It's like Stalins jab at parliamentary democracy where he said "The people who cast the votes decide nothing; the people who count the votes do";
if you are working from an "I hate Stalin" mindset, this sounds evil, but when you just read what he's saying, it is actually a valid observation on parliamentary democracy in the bourgois countries.

I actually agree with you here! :scared:

For example, the 9/11 deaths, being years in the past, are now statistics, and so are American casualties in Iraq.

A Trot above referred to Stalin's "black humour," but I can't say I disagree with ANY of Stalin's "black humour," including his jab at parliamentary democracy.

[Intelligitimate]

"Death solves all problems - no man, no problem."

This quote does come from Stalin, though only as a fictional character. It comes from the novel Children of the Arbat, and the quote is admitted to have been made up for the novel by the author.

"One death is a tragedy; a million is a statistic."

There is no reliable source for this at all. In fact, given that you can trace this quote to other popular sources, like The Black Obelisk, it is more than likely borrowed and misattributed.

"The people who cast the votes decide nothing; the people who count the votes do"

This quote seems to come from Boris Bazhanov, someone who is incredibly unreliable. He is an example of someone who deliberately joined the party in order to sabotage it. Many of the claims he makes aren't even believed by even the most anti-communist scholars.

[Wanted Man]

It was made up by Anatoly Rybakov. The one about the millions comes from a novel as well. There are many bogus "smart quotes" sites where you can find anything that sounds edgy, funny, clever, sinister or profound, often horribly deformed or completely misattributed. Look a bit harder next time.

[Comerade Ted Grant]

I remember another Stalinist quote: "One death is a tragedy. A million deaths is a statistic."

[Red Heretic]

These quotes are both faker than jesus christ, they originate in anti-communist fiction.

comrades should be careful about spreading this kind of shit.

I think it is very telling that some of the Trotskyists on this board rally to the support of this kind of bourgeois shit. There is a certain epistemology that is expressed here... They don't care about the truth, they don't believe "all truth is good for the proletariat and getting to communism" as Avakian has been fighting for... they just want to win an argument. "Whatever is good for the proletariat is true" revisited. That methodology and epistemology will NEVER get us to communism.

[Schrödinger's Cat]

How about something more authentic?

"After my death my grave will be covered with mountains of garbage but the wind of history will mercilessly scatter it away." - Stalin

[Schrödinger's Cat]

I am not surprised.
Theres no denying Stalin was a killer, and that he killed to solve problems. We have seen it over and over when he eliminated the Old Guard and everyone around him out of paranoia. Also Trotsky, his biggest problem. Well I have never seen an ice-pick put to worse use.

"There's no denying..." Except there is. None of the sources used to compare Stalin to other mass murderers like Adolf Hitler have any credibility. It's a sad reality that Trots will accept anti-Stalinist propaganda without ever considering their sources come from people with an anti-communist agenda. The truth about Stalin and the fiction you're taught in school are two separate things.

[Red Heretic]

Hey GeneCosta,

what's that quote from?

[ArabRASH]

I'm no fan of Stalin but:

"Death solves all problems — no man, no problem.
This actually comes from the novel Children of the Arbat by Anatoly Rybakov. In his later book The Novel of Memories (In Russian) Rybakov has admitted that he made the quotation up."

From Wikiquote.

And i really like the tragedy statistic quote. My variation is:

One Israeli Death is a tragedy. One hundred Palestinian deaths is a statistic.

As has been exhibited this week.

[Panda Tse Tung]

GeneCosta's quote is from Molotov remembers, very well-written an solid book.

[Luís Henrique]

Stalin? But how many armoured divisions does Stalin have?

Luís Henrique

[Herman]

Stalin? But how many armoured divisions does Stalin have?

Luís Henrique

Just as many as the Americans, I believe.

[Comrade Wolfie's Very Nearly Banned Adventures]

I have a quote from stalin 'babies taste nice when marinaded in honey'

100% true