Torture in prisons

[darkened day 92]

America will rant over and over about how cubans are mistreated in cuban prisons. I swear there was this 60 minutes show where they got a mental patient in a prison die of dehydration and another of starvation and all we do is shake our heads the warden said that it seemed tragic if u put indviula cases like that. Now i don't know what that even means. I know in my few posts i make a lot of refrence to my country (Egypt) but america gives our president great support when he is a demon the prices of seeds just yesturday rose 100% people can not afford to feed their children so this child 12 years old suspected of sho lifting that was beaten up by the police sooooo badly that he died and they threw his lifeless body infront of his family's house the policeman that was charged got like only 6 months. Now why da fuck is america not condemning their fellow capitalist country. Okay political prisoners are one thing which is also very tragic i mean my dad was one he was beaten like shit but shop lifting kid in his early teens is another thing and america backed the dictator to go on ruling the country for 26 years.
It is absurd

[erupt]

Yeah the prisons in the U.S. are very, very, corrupt.

That's a disgusting story about the poor kid who was killed for stealing. Six months for murdering a child. If police officers are supposed to be held to a "higher standard," if anything, their punishment should be greater for things that are illegal. My local police station police officers drink at the station a lot. One time I was taking a stroll and walking past a dumpster noticed a beer bong and quite a few boxes. An officer walked out and told me "You didn't see that. Get going where you were going." I just busted out laughing and started walking whilst listening to "Fuck Authority" by Pennywise. :D

[darkened day 92]

The shitty thing is that poor kid was not even formaly convicted but this our government's way to keep us under control either by threats from jukie policemen (some are actually accused of rape but the government never tries them because the sentance to rape in egypt is the death penalty).Or they keep prices higher higher so that people get so involved with trying to feed your family (its a struggle even in egypt even if you are surgon or a college professor) that you forget that they are actually stealing our money. The hotshot officals after looting of the people send all their money to canada or swizerland and live like kings there.
The problem with egypt that the businessmen bought their way into politics so they can give themselves more advantages screwing with the prople.

Any Authority like that your right fuck it

[Lector Malibu]

Flat out fuck the Police!! Enough said

[Faux Real]

What most people here find highly mind-numbingly annoying is that the politicians of the USA have to really bend the lines of semantics of the word torture. When it gets to the point when any amount of physical or psychological harm on a prisoner is given leeway, and rich men in suits are asking themselves "is it really torture?" these people are spewing shit out of their mouth.

I wouldn't imagine American prisons (especially overseas ones) to be that much better compared to Egyptian one's. That's a disheartening story, and unfortunate that it probably won't be the last death in that kind of manner.

[BIG BROTHER]

Tipical US hypocresy.

[F9]

Men fuck cops!ACAB.Most of tortures usually happened against imiggrants and fugitives.They will only get arrested and get bitten because they are blacks!:ohmy:
Close prisons or put in asholle politicians who kill people for oil!

Fuserg9:star:

[jaffe]

prison=torture

[darkened day 92]

prison=torture
Well it shouldn't be like that really. they crucify Fidel Castro for there alledged prison torture when they have no proof. When it's in cuba it is a crime commited by "Thoes Damn Commies" against the human race when its cuba its enslavement, labor camp, facist commies they don't even have proof no died of starvation or dehydration. When its good ol' fake democrocy like america or egypt it sad unfortunate unaviodable mistakes it just shows that humans have anger within them. I mean why can't we proscute them like they to cuba.
These capitalist rapists man are so damn hypocrticle it kills me i swear when i saw the guy on 60 minutes naked tied to a small bed for 17 hours at a time and deprived of water it struck me that non of their fake parties condemned it. We should talk more against these muredrers these torturers.

[Mujer Libre]

What most people here find highly mind-numbingly annoying is that the politicians of the USA have to really bend the lines of semantics of the word torture. When it gets to the point when any amount of physical or psychological harm on a prisoner is given leeway, and rich men in suits are asking themselves "is it really torture?" these people are spewing shit out of their mouth.

I wouldn't imagine American prisons (especially overseas ones) to be that much better compared to Egyptian one's. That's a disheartening story, and unfortunate that it probably won't be the last death in that kind of manner.
That is bizarre, and very very fucked up. Apparently torture now has to cause pain (note- only physical) that is (I'm paraphrasing here) 'as bad as death.'

And who knows what that's like? :confused:

[BobKKKindle$]

Unfortunately, the mistreatment of prisoners is common feature of almost every prison system - although some countries are much worse than others. This is because when you place someone in a position that gives them the power to control and, if they choose, punish others, there is a tendency for that person to abuse their position and take delight in their ability to harm others without repercussions. This was the general conclusion of the Stanford Prison experiment, which was a fake prison constructed as part of a psychological experiment, and volunteers (who were carefully selected to make sure none of them had any prior psychological problems which might give an unclear result) were divided into two separate groups - prisoners and guards. After only a short time, the experiment was terminated, in order to prevent further trauma amongst the prisoner group, such was the barbarity of the guards. A similar dynamic can be observed at Abu Ghraib in the case of Lynndie England.

[Static]

This shit happens when bad leadership is endorsed.

[darkened day 92]

Unfortunately, the mistreatment of prisoners is common feature of almost every prison system - although some countries are much worse than others. This is because when you place someone in a position that gives them the power to control and, if they choose, punish others, there is a tendency for that person to abuse their position and take delight in their ability to harm others without repercussions. This was the general conclusion of the Stanford Prison experiment, which was a fake prison constructed as part of a psychological experiment, and volunteers (who were carefully selected to make sure none of them had any prior psychological problems which might give an unclear result) were divided into two separate groups - prisoners and guards. After only a short time, the experiment was terminated, in order to prevent further trauma amongst the prisoner group, such was the barbarity of the guards. A similar dynamic can be observed at Abu Ghraib in the case of Lynndie England.

Ya but a govenment has to limit their powers and check over n over again. We as communists, socialists, and anarchists have to promote and protest against the mistreatment of people in prisons. And als we have to reply to any idiot talking about cuban prisons with that their precious america does worse!

[BobKKKindle$]

Ya but a govenment has to limit their powers and check over n over again. We as communists, socialists, and anarchists have to promote and protest against the mistreatment of people in prisons. And als we have to reply to any idiot talking about cuban prisons with that their precious america does worse!Yes, we should try and protect the rights of prisoners, by making sure they are not mistreated, demanding conjugal visits and better facilities, including opportunities for learning inside prison etc - but, ultimately, we should aim to completely eliminate prisons. In our approach to deviants, we should understand that the roots of crime are social, and so should try and eliminate the conditions that create deviant behavior, and, when crimes do occur, the emphasis should be on reforming deviants. Prisons do not fulfill this task, as denying freedom of movement (which is essentially what a prison does) encourages prisoners to resent their society, which allows for re-offending once they have served their sentence.

Cuban prisons may have better conditions than American prisons, but that does not change the fact that both countries use prisons to punish deviants. A larger and more comfortable cage is still a cage. Prisons are inherently oppressive, and cannot be part of any society which claims to embody the values of freedom - and so should be resolutely opposed by all socialists.