But Why Is Amerikkka SO Rich?

[Fires of History]

I have read virtually every thread on this topic over the past month. I usually don't say much, because the capitali$t arguments are simply so absurd, ignorant and uneducated that there's really nothing of value to say to such absurdity.

The one thing I would like to talk about is this:

How is that the U$ has all the money they do?

How is it that that Amerikkka is SO rich?

These questions are my rhetorical way of pointing out that capitali$m is unethical.

You can argue back and forth about the 'functionality' of capitali$m versus communism all day, and that to me is totally irrelevant.

My point is that while capitali$m may 'work' on paper, it is IMMORAL AND UNETHICAL. It violates every possible semblance of ethics, and tramples on the humanity of billions for the sake of a few owners.

Would any capitalists like to argue that capitali$m is moral or ethical in any way?

Put That In Your Pipe And Smoke It,
Trance

Who cares if it 'works' on paper if it's WRONG!? I care at least...

[TheDerminator]

I must admit, I usually avoid this forum too, because the responses are so moronic.

U can expect the same in this thread.

The world has developed unevenly, thus some nation was always going to become the largest economic BORG| power. A lot of the leftist anti-American stuff forgets this fact.

It is the wealthiest country in the world due to the major influence of English colonialianism and trading practises combined with its natural resources, European political heritage in relation to it being a Republic, and its exploitation of cheap, sometimes free mass labour.
Part of its natural resource is just its sheer size, and what that can logistically support.
Also, U might add that its geographical isolation from a troubled Europe was helpful in creating stable internal trade conditions from the end of the American Civil War.
Ofcourse, U do not need a history lesson, but I thought I'd throw in my version, before we hear all about the greatness of the American Entrepreneurial Spirit!
Someone will throw it up all over the screen!

U are right, the deeper question is the one of deep unethical intrinsic inequalities, that leave much of the globe with a "third world" tag.

U can expect functionalism, big style, because that is all the bastards have. We don't care. The system functions for us. Fuck U in the third world. What the fuck do U have, fucking Cuba! Look at Argentina. Shows U what we can fucking do in the third fucking world! Er um....

I always like to thrown in the phrase the genocide of wanton neglect, since that is the main "freedom" they are upholding!

Be afraid, be very afraid...

Resistance is Futile!

May the Force with U!

derminated

[El Che]

Nah, your just jealous.

[TheDerminator]

Seen one too many Hollywood blockbuster El Che!
Still if they want to send me their money...

[Fires of History]

Quote: from TheDerminator on 5:03 pm on Mar. 20, 2002
U can expect functionalism, big style, because that is all the bastards have. We don't care. The system functions for us. Fuck U in the third world.

Well put Derminator, that has been my point for years.

Amerikkkans cannot see past their own comfort, their own shrink-wrapped lives to see that they support a system that exploits anyone in the third world not stupid enough to complain and the 'disappear' because of it.

Then these same Amerikkkans have the damn nerve to wonder why they are the targets of so many terrorist organizations.

"They hate our freedom,' says Dumbya, 'They hate our liberty.'

Yeah, right, fuck you puppet.

Power To The People,
Trance

[Imperial Power]

This has become so boring and monateneus.

"How is it the us has all the money they do?"

Well, capitalism

You refer to capitalism as evil which is the standard practice of the socialist. Yet you somehow you block from your mind the repressive nature of the socialist state. Next you say that is stalinism but it's not, it is the way the Left works. Maybe you should define evil. Regan Lives has proven in past threads that wealth is infinite. I really must say you guys have run out of ammunition. Talk about absurd. I'm trying to understand the psychological profile of a communist. You even say fuck freedom and fuck liberty. This is the most blatent ive ever seen anyone admit to their socialist values.

[Sir Galahad]

Personally, I think America is so wealthy because we wanted bad and the timing was perfect for us, or Geograghical location aint bad either, but in America, Nothing really stops you from complaining about Big Brother and Corporationalism stuff and etc. Nothing is stopping you from becoming rich, and that kind of thing.
America was at one time full of self made men, and even now it is possible, all a person has to do is get up and try, some won't succeed and will end up in some gutter somewhere but, hey, lifes a bit** ain't it? YOu only live once, you might as well get up and do something with your life and stop complaining.
As for third world countries, honestly, they would be in even worse shape if America wasnt invovle the way it is now, life aint fair, but although I come as an American who doesnt care about the rest of the world, I think that America owes Africa Quite a bit, but so do European countries. The Poverty in Africa and other third world countries can be solved by them picking themselves up by the bootstraps and then given something to hold them up when they get there, America can give them that something, so If you America more involved in Third world nations, Right Congress a letter. They may not care, but, what the hell, its worth a shot aint it?
Why hate America because its so rich? Nothing is stopping people from immigrating here.
Another thing, the poor people in uganda or somewhere like that, are if you parrelel it, just as poor as a poor man in America, If they were here they would just a rich to the outside world, but still here, theyre just as poor. This probably didnt make sense so post something that didnt make sense so I can expalain what I mean.
NO FIGHT PLEASE!

[Fires of History]

Quote: from Imperial Power on 12:01 am on Mar. 22, 2002
This has become so boring and monateneus.

"How is it the us has all the money they do?"


I noticed you didn't try to defend capitali$m as ethical in your post.

Because you can't.

Also, if you think that a true socialist state has ever existed, you are wrong. Any 'evil' examples of 'socialism' you would bring up would be pointless, because it wouldn't be realized socialism. You mentioned Stalinism, I hate Stalin! What POINTLESS example...

Still, instead of trying to argue that capitali$m is ethical, you make pop shots at what you 'think' is socialism.

By the way, I never said 'evil,' I said UNETHICAL.

Do you not understand global capitalism? Sweat shops? Using third world countries to dump our nuclear waste?

Power To The People,
Trance

[Fires of History]

Quote: from Sir Galahad on 1:41 am on Mar. 22, 2002
America was at one time full of self made men, and even now it is possible, all a person has to do is get up and try

Damn boy!

Do you honestly think that everyone has an equal chance to make it in America?

LOL!

Have you tried making a business lately?

You need capital to make capital!

There is NO way that everyone can make it.

LOL,
Trance

[Anarcho]

For a good example of why the Capitalist system in America succeeded where the Social/Communist system of the USSR failed, try reading "Rise and Fall of the Great Powers".

[Thich Quang Duc]

notice: that imperial ***** can't argue back!! capitalism is not ethical, it just hows how americans just do not care for anything outside their own country.

[poncho]

One thing I've never understood is when people from middle class in America have a child that needs a life saving operation, they have to beg for money......Heaven forbid the doctor and hospital loose money for saving a poor kids life!!!!!!

It is possible to be a self made person in the U.S.A., one cannot deny this fact. But you can also do it in Cuba, the only people in Cuba that fear the government are criminals.....

[Imperial Power]

Notice: Thich in head does not read the forum board. Why don't you have a look in the other forum that fires started on the same topic.

It's hilarious all of you that have nothing to say except back-up a commie without ever actually contributing anything and then feel like you argueing.

Thich in head also says "it just hows how americans just do not care for anything outside their own country. " This is classic. How many times have you all said that we should stay in America and leave the rest of the world alone? Now have you decided we should interfere in other countries?

[PunkRawker677]

by interfering and bombing, and putting sanctions on other countries, that obviously shows how LITTLE you care about other countries that you CANNOT benefit from.. we wouldnt want the u$ to leave everyone alone if you were doing GOOD for the rest of the world..

but your not, and i refuse to fantasize

[Nateddi]

Quote: from Imperial Power on 1:44 am on Mar. 27, 2002
Notice: Thich in head does not read the forum board. Why don't you have a look in the other forum that fires started on the same topic.

It's hilarious all of you that have nothing to say except back-up a commie without ever actually contributing anything and then feel like you argueing.

Thich in head also says "it just hows how americans just do not care for anything outside their own country. " This is classic. How many times have you all said that we should stay in America and leave the rest of the world alone? Now have you decided we should interfere in other countries?


Imperial Fritz / Freidrich:
What they mean is that they do not want to invade countries for the sake of corporate interest.

[Fires of History]

Imperial *****,

First of all, you must live in that good ol' amerikkan comfort for you to be saying half the bullshit you do. The shrink-wrapped, pathetic life you lead is the life I escaped. Amerikkkans live in a bubble.

Secondly, YOU HAVE ONCE AGAIN AVOIDED THE FUCKING QUESTION!!!

IS CAPITALISM ETHICAL? WHY OR WHY NOT?

Is it so hard?

You can't answer a simple question?
Trance

P.S. Or is there no answer? Why do you get off topic? Answer the fucking question! If you can?

[Pepe]

We could get to the question by the most easy way and that would be, that America is a young country that was build from the begining with the inspiration from the Industrial Revolution. America started and the World try to follow, because they had more.

This created a submission aspect in most of the other countries. That's why they still are doing what they want. But don‘t forget that most of the things they say are not real.

I heard just yesterday an American saying that he agrees that the goverment will protect the American Steel by the increase of taxes for imported Steel. His arguments where that the American the Steel costs more because they have hard environmental laws, no children work and high wages, so they cannot compete, for this the american goverment must protected.

I'm very sorry to say that the man that I heard talking must be stupid since one of the big affected place s is the EU. The arguments that the poor american gave are simply not valid. He talks about protecting the Environment and the EU in fact has more strict laws, he talks about children work but in but in the EU doesn‘t exist, at least in the Steel Industry.

So where is the problem? The Americans one time more try to impose to make their big money. The expeculation plays a big part. But the world is finally starting to open the eyes. Enron for example and the Steel industry in America, please it's finish.

Once again related with environment, while in other developed countries their is a big investment in environmental technology and improvement of environmental law, the Americans prefer not to invest and hold the money in their hands. Polluting was alway more profitable, or sprading war was also always profitable.

American will keep getting reach just if the other countries will keep submitting, in this aspect I belive that the EU will have a important role, at least to help to balance the things.