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Comerade Ted Grant
28th February 2008, 20:02
It's fascinating for me to observe how a true believer responds to an unanswerable challenge to his/her fundamental ideological catechism.

Her testimony:

"I got pregnant as a result of the multiple gang rapes by my torturers, and unable to carry within me what they had engendered, what I could view only as a monster, the product of the men who had raped me, I turned to someone for assistance and I destroyed that life. Am I proud of this decision? No. But if I had to make the decision again, I believe I would again decide as I did eight years ago.
I had little choice. My survival was so precarious at that time that to have to grow within me what the torturers had left me would have killed me."

Sister Dianna Ortiz

al8
29th February 2008, 09:26
Yes, but also that a christian, any christian would need to see a doctor is beyond me. If they had they had the faith they boust of they would solely pray god for help, and die in the process if they needed to. But they go to the doctor, most of them. So, when you look at what their hands are doing they are atheists, but when you look at what their mouth says, they are christians.

Demogorgon
29th February 2008, 15:35
Yes, but also that a christian, any christian would need to see a doctor is beyond me. If they had they had the faith they boust of they would solely pray god for help, and die in the process if they needed to. But they go to the doctor, most of them. So, when you look at what their hands are doing they are atheists, but when you look at what their mouth says, they are christians.

Eh? :lol: You have an incredibly odd idea of what Christians believe, to put it mildly.

spartan
29th February 2008, 16:20
Either way it most of been a hard choice for her to make so i have a lot of respect for this person to do what she decided was best for her in the end.

Abortion is all about the choice and that is what the pro-lifers cant, and probably never will, understand.

Bandito
29th February 2008, 16:37
Her terrible situation can be used as an example.
Abortion is a choice!

Dyslexia! Well I Never!
29th February 2008, 19:48
Everything one does consciously is a choice. Why should any act regardless of any 'moral' implications be any different to deciding to put shoes skip breakfast or put sugar in one's coffee?

Particular decisions may be more or less important but are in no way 'less of a choice.'

I refuse to comment specifically on this example seeing as if I do I'll probably offend half the internet.

Faux Real
29th February 2008, 19:55
Sickening (the rape), I applaud her for making this choice.

Not all religious people, even those in the institutions, are raving pro-lifers, ya know.

careyprice31
2nd March 2008, 16:58
Funny how most pro lifers are men and post menopausal women,

that is people who will never experience having being faced with the situations,

and then people who think they are pro life until they actually live the experience. Then their beliefs get faced with - horror of horrors!-- actual science and biological and world realities!

Then what they previously believed goes all out the window.

Because 'pro life' is ignoring realities.

one of those is the right of a woman to decide what happens to her own body and her own pregnancy. Every woman should have that right.

Dyslexia! Well I Never!
4th March 2008, 17:28
Every aspect of one's health, body and personality belongs to the and them alone and thus control of such things is theirs and theirs alone to decide.

Catholicism on the other hand like many religious delusions teaches that all aspects of what makes up a person are like everything else are the possession of the 'magical sky daddy' and he wants everything to run uninterupted to it's conclusion as per some fictitious plan.

As such those who are catholic beleive that an abortion is a wicked imposition of human folly upon the 'magical sky daddy's' plans.

As such they beleive that a rape victim who aborts (or murders in their eyes) her child is sinning and will go to hell.

While I despise the concept of religion I'd expect that somebody who'd dedicated their life to such a delusion would at least stick to some of the basic principles in extemis.

In short a victory for sanity and common sense over delusions and blind faith.