Morons

[Imperial Power]

I was just reading some of the threads on this sight. I believe the majority of members are 14 or dumb as rocks. It seems the greatest ignorance is in military matters and lack of comprehension. Some idiot claims Bush plans to use Nuclear weapons. Do you understand nothing? The day nuclear weapons fly is the armageddon. Bush will not be using nuclear weapons in the war on terror unless someone fires nuclear weapons on the US. Before you make such outrageous claims use whatever brain power you have. Common sense should be enough but some of you are lacking.

[Fidelista]

We must remember that the U.S. is not afraid and HAS used nuclear weapons before. Japan 1945, twice against a country that was practically defeated america unleashed 2 nuclear weapons on cities with men, women and children. Even Nixon suggested using them in the Vietnam War until his lapdog Kissinger said it wasn't a good idea. America is the only country to use nuclear weapons on another country or people in an act of belligerence. I wouldn't be so sure in saying they will never do it again....

[Michael De Panama]

Man that's harsh. The guy with the George W. Bush avatar called someone a moron. That's pretty low.

[Fidelista]

especially when his nickname is imperial MORON lol

[DestinDisaster]

Hey Imperial Power

can you answer this for me?? If the U.S doesn't plan on using any nuclear weapons, why the hell are we spending trillons of dollars to fund the production of Nucs? Is it for "just in case" we might never need to use like 150 atomic bombs? And to add to our debt, conservatives keep on pushing spending for the creation of bombs and such. please, you can not sit there and actually believe that there is no possibility. Maybe your too brain washed to comphrend the truth.

[Son of Scargill]

General MacArthur was"retired"because he demanded that nukes be used on 25 Korean cities and towns,and also a few more to nuke Beijing and Vladivostok.Also IP,they have battlefield tactical nukes,which aren't quite as nasty as the city killers,and I'm sure there's a few generals who'd believe they could get away with using those.They are low yield,in both blast and radiation,and with a President who doesn't even have the balls to stand up to his own father,I'm sure he could be pressured into it.With luck though,Colin Powell will give him a good spanking and send him to bed,without any supper.So hooray!We'll live to breath another day.

[Son of Scargill]

Nearly forgot,DestinDisaster,the US doesn't have to use them,but as the arms trade is the backbone of the US economy,it's a really good earner.And morons like IP are paying for it out of their precious tax dollars.If world peace actually happened,America would go back to being a second rate nation,with crap TV,and wierd sports that no one else plays.But they'd still call them the world series.

[HardcoreCommie]

The US had a TEN TRILLION dollar GDP in the year 2000, that's $10,000,000,000,000

of that international armsales constituted 161 billion dollars, that's $161,000,000,000.

Do the math, thats 1.61 percent, hardly the "backbone" of the economy.

[poncho]

More Richard Nixon tapes that where recently made public had him discussing the idea of using nukes in Vietnam. "Just want you to think big" is what he said to secutary of defense Henry Kissinger, who did'nt like the idea. It's also well known fact that both the Soviet Union and United States have come close several times to launching nuclear weapons by accident, the only thing saving the world was "rational" thinking to check the facts of what the other side was really doing. After the Cuban missle crisis a direct line between Washington and the Kremlin was installed to confirm.

Is the rational thinking within the "new" nuclear threats facing America?

The biggest problem is the political correct crowd has been destroying the CIA since Carter was President. While agents are making quilts in sensitivity training, potential enemies are training to launch nuclear attacks. The fools in Washington may take one of these training missions as seconds to launch. In the cold war days agents would be working in the field gathering intel, the President would ask around "usely" an answer would be "its an excersise" phone Kremlin and explain the situation just in case they noticed America was about to rettaliate. Everything is fine and the people did'nt realise we where mere seconds from total destruction.

Are those advising Bush rational people? Yes, Colin Powell is a proven wimp juring the Gulf War, so if Dubya goes, Maybe I should use a low impact nuclear bomb in the war against terror, his advisers will go "NO"... If North Korea or some other country practices launching attack and no intel suggest's its not real, kiss your loved ones goodbye.....

I'm more worried of Bush and extending the war on terror in the name of democracy and freedom to places like Cuba. Its no secret that Bush owes Florida alot especially the Cuban mafia traitors, his brother is up for re-election and it would be very embarrasing if the little twerp was not re-elected. Would Bush sacrifice the sovereign people of the Island of Cuba for his brothers victory, Yes.....

[Son of Scargill]

This 161 billion,is that just weaponary sales overseas,or does that include sales within the States?And what about resupply,clothing,transportation,upkeep of bases,(whether in the US,or not).Then there's the research and development,which is never a small budget.Just asking,'cos if it includes all these factors(and some I may have missed out),you've got quite a bargain there.

[Guest]

HC, new comp

That is the net sales (not profit) of all US weapon's manufactures. This means that 161 billion is the total revenue of US weapon's manufacturers, so then research and development is included within this, but US armed forces sunk costs like housing and transportation is not. Although those costs really don't factor into the argument.
It was asserted that ARMS SALES are the backbone of the US economy, it is revealed that they only constitute 1.61 percent of the US economy.
The upkeep of bases, or clothing of soldiers have nothing to do with the first assertion or with the fact that disproves it.

[Son of Scargill]

Get the point,HC,my fault really.Meant military expenditure,but was tired and took the easy route.I would still consider that your military costs are a serious part of the US economy,and without it the nation would feel the pinch.(Not that that will happen).Oh!and american football is still rubbish.

[Imperial Power]

Ignorant ones,
DestinDisaster I would like you to tell me about the production of nuclear weapons. Maybe you could give me some figures and tell me where I should go to keep informed on the production on nuclear weapons. Heres the hard part, use common sense my friend. Lets say all your potential enemies have guns. Would want a gun? yes you would. All your potential enemies have nuclear weapons, you want nuclear weapons. Honestly are you 12-14 years old? FIdelista are you aware that an invasion of Japan would have caused more then 1,000,000 American casualities? Did you know that the Japanese were killing 100,000 chinese and koreans per month? The use of Nucler weapons saved lives because the Japenese would not back down. Your lack of information on military matters is astonishing if you consider yourselves socialist intellectuals.

[Moskitto]

I thought tactical nukes released a lot more radiation which made the blast smaller (More energy into radiation, less energy into blast?) I read it somewhere and it seems to make sense from a physics viewpoint but I could be wrong.

[Xvall]

Hey, Dubya...
I'm fourteen, and by the looks of it, my political knowledge and activism far surpasses yours. And by the looks of it, I who are nothing more than a 'dumb pinko' by your logic, have better gramatical spelling than you as well. So look at whom you are talking to before making posts like that. By the way, as another person said before me, the United States used nuclear weapons against innocent japanese civilians, when they had not attacked the United States with any nuclear weapons first.

- Drake Dracoli

[reagan lives]

"And by the looks of it, I who are nothing more than a 'dumb pinko' by your logic, have better gramatical spelling than you as well."

Indeed. I hope this was your idea of a joke.

[Capitalist]

Imperial Power is RIGHT.

Fidel Castro was more than willing to start World War 3 during the Cuban Missile (October) Crisis.

North Korea is more than willing to make a "Nuclear- Capitalistic"/Profit - selling nuclear arms to terrorists. They will sell nuclear weapons carelessly to anyone willing to purchase them.

Democratic powers are VERY CAREFUL not to abuse nuclear power.

Do not blame Democratic USA for Nuclear Warfare, we may have invented it, but it is the Communistic and Terrorist states that abuse the power.

If the USA abused nuclear power, the Soviet Union would have ended in 1945. There would have been no warnings to Japan - USA would have just kept dropping bombs until the Japan was exterminated. USA clearly warned Facist Japan to surrender or face grave consequences. And then after Japan surrendered - USA has the gual to reinvent Japan in it's Democratic/Capitalistic image.

Personally I don't think too many Japanese hold a grudge against the USA. Like Germany, we treated them with respect and helped rebuild their nation after the war.

Unlike Imperialistic Soviet Union which gobled up all the neighboring countries and supressed them under communism/totalarian big brother government.

[vox]

"Some idiot claims Bush plans to use Nuclear weapons. Do you understand nothing?"

Of course, the Bush USA is planning just such a thing:

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines02/0311-02.htm

vox

[Rosa]

Capitalistic instrumental-sense calculated that they would have more profit if leaving Japan to survive. Market & o.c.
And don't give me that crap "US fighted for Chineses & Koreans that Japan wanted to terminate", bcs if US was leaded by such high-moral standards,as saving "innocent human beings that are opressed", it wouldn't forbid jews imigration 1942.
But it has been done. Instrumental-mind can't have any moral standards, for it only seeks for more profit.

To imp power: why then US wants to have MORE & MORE POWERFULL WEAPONS?
ANSW: TO BECAME IMERIUM...THAT OPRESSES OTHERS FOR BENEFIT OF HIGH-CLASS MORONS AS YOU ARE, AND NOT FOR BENEFIT OF COMMON PEOPLE (even that wouldn't be an excuse for that imperialism).
US is system of DOUBLE opression: on it's citizens, and on citizens of the rest of the world

[poncho]

The United States was neutral until Pearl Harbour. They would not sell military equipment to even Canada. But Coca Cola was the number one drink amongst German soldier, wich they sold tons in to the Natzi's.

Unlike the movie Pearl Harbour where Ben Aflicks charactor flew combat flight missions for Britain as a U.S Army pilot. To be a pilot in the U.S forces you had to have a college or University degree, only well off kids could afford that. Britain needed pilots, so many poor Americans went to Canada to join the RCAF who lowered standards, it was such a problem that congress considered stripping citizenship of those that did so. Congress also discussed charging those that fought for Britain with treason but at that time the penalty was death, thought maybe a little to harsh.

[Imperial Power]

Poncho for some reason I thought the majority of them fought because they knew the Nazis had to be stopped. True you have to have a university degreee to be an Air Force pilot but you dont have to be rich. I myself joned the Reserve Officer Training Corps. My college is completly paid for by the Air Force and I have a 2 year service agreement. I can go right on to pilot training after college. You can also go to the Air Force Academy which is completly free and one of the best schools in the world. My point is that hardly anyone pays for their college if they are joining the military.

Rosa you think the US is the country trying to build more powerful weapons? Thats a global issue. Most modern weapon reasearch is not goin into creating more powerful nucler weapons anyhow because they are not practical.

[Moskitto]

Humans are so clearly the only species capable for whiping themselves out.

BTW USAF pilots were not ver professional during WW2. They shot at anything that moved and wasn't American whever it was a Canal Boat, Refugee Column (My dad knew some German refugees who fled West to escape from the Soviets who hid if they saw anything that looked like US planes because of this) or a British Tank.

(Edited by Moskitto at 6:27 pm on Mar. 14, 2002)

[poncho]

In the 1930's and 40's higher education was out of reach for most people below upper middle class. Also the paying for school by the army was not around yet.

Forget the total number of Americans that came-up to Canada to fly but it was somewhere around 4,000. Enough to make the American government look for ways to stop it.

The Americans where nautral waiting for the winner to emerge. They sucked-up to both sides until Japan forced them into the war. The Natzi party had alot of support by American business and some very famous people right-up until they joined the war.

[Moskitto]

There's a book called "IBM and the Nazi Party, How Americas biggest business helped the worlds biggest genocide" or something like that. I saw it at Bicester, I'll look on Amazon.

[Michael De Panama]

...Walt Disney was a big supporter of the Nazi party.

[DestinDisaster]

"use common sense my friend. Lets say all your potential enemies have guns. Would want a gun? yes you would. All your potential enemies have nuclear weapons, you want nuclear weapons"

Okay, here's my deal Imperial Power,

I understand about why we fund the military. hello, yes. that's obivious. What I have problems with is exactly what you stated above. "all your potential enemies have you nucs, you want nucs" do we really need to constantly produce them every year? WE ALREADY HAVE PLENTY and we're not using them damnit. The money spent for the production of nuc's could actually be used to help the people in our nation.
For instance, free clinic's need drastic improvement. They need to have better staff's, nicer facilities and up to date medical equipment. I know this first hand, my mother is poor and goes to one. Next, a national health care system would help the poor get medical attention. The poor are human also, they deserve health care like the rest of us.

You said you wanted figures... here. Lawerence Livermore Labs (they prouduce nuclear weapons) is about 25 mins away from where I live. This is some of what they spent last year alone. Now keep in mind, this is just one lab, imagine the spending of all the other labs in the U.S.

$837 million for Directed Stockpile Work;


an increase of $129 million (16.1 percent) to $1.05 billion for Campaigns;


an increase of $323 million (9.2 percent) to $1.954 billion for Readiness

The request for operating funds is $4.18 billion, which is an increase of $389 million (10.3 percent) over the comparable 2000 appropriation

Stockpile Stewardship = $328 million

I got those figures from my friends dad that works there. That's not all that was spent.


You obviously didn't understand my point from the first post. I am not saying we don't need military spending, I'm saying we waste a lot of money just trying to look all big and bad. Look above again and notice the 1.05 billion for nuclear campaigns...what the hell?? That money could have defiantly be put to better use. We already have the stongest military in the world, maybe congress should direct it's attention to helping it's citizens.

And no, I am not 14.

[Derar]

who said The USA didnt use or not gonna use nuclear weapons ?!
ofcourse they wont use these destructive powerful ones , but what about the uranium planted war-heads .... that they fuckin droped on iraq , yugoslavia and afganistan ........ do u know how many kids have cancer in iraq .... hundreds of thousands .
and ofcourse u all heard about the peacekeeping soldiers that died from blood cancer becoz of the uranium in yugoslavia .
They also used these rockets to bomb afganistan ..... wait few more years , and we'll start hearing about the cancer spreading in afganistan .

so shit-head IP , use ur little stupid brain before u post next time !

[Imperial Power]

Destin You do realize that nuclear weapons go bad after a few years. They are simply replacing the ones that have expired. The umber of tactical nuclear missiles remains the same becasue of missile reduction treaties.

Shit Face Derar depleted uranium has been in use for a decade in armor piercing shells. I have read that it could be dangerous but it hasn't been proven. We will have to wait and see but wouldnt you expect the soldiers who handle it daily reloading airplanes, anti-tank guns, etc. to have developed camcer. They certainly have more direct contact with the shell and I havnt read they are developing cancer.

[DestinDisaster]

right on Derar. It doesn't seem like he even care's about the bio-chemical weapons that the U.S has placed in middle eastern countries, or hell, even African countries for that matter. But whatever, it's hard to reason with a right-winger, isn't it.

[Imperial Power]

Enlighten me on the biological weapons the US has in the middle east

[Guest]

Quote: from Moskitto on 9:00 pm on Mar. 14, 2002
There's a book called "IBM and the Nazi Party, How Americas biggest business helped the worlds biggest genocide" or something like that. I saw it at Bicester, I'll look on Amazon.


i read somewhere that IBM made counting machines for the nazis during WW2 that helped them keep track of jewish prisoners.

[death b4 dishonour]

ahhh sorry i wrote the last quote... forgot to sign in

[Son of Scargill]

Qoute from IP}Shit Face Derar depleted uranium has been in use for a decade in armor piercing shells. I have read that it could be dangerous but it hasn't been proven. We will have to wait and see but wouldnt you expect the soldiers who handle it daily reloading airplanes, anti-tank guns, etc. to have developed camcer. They certainly have more direct contact with the shell and I havnt read they are developing cancer.

There is a group of British soldiers campaigning for more reasearch into depleted uranium shells,after abnormally high amounts of cancer cases occurred amongst soldiers handling them.The government is denying any link,but then that's what they normally do anyway.

[pastradamus]

Ip you cant finish what you've started! you are the only clear moron here! and to say that nukeing is not one of the us plans! ha! if its not nukes it's enough explosives to cut the planet in half! what about in afghanistan? ye are bombing dirt tracks,sand dunes & mountains with no clear activity! just to give your enimies a big fright. the US is the is one of the most anti-humanist countries in the world,1 american life is worth about a million foreigners lives,according to the way your country behaves.

[DestinDisaster]

IP

true enough that the materials found in nuc's go bad, but that takes years. It's not like every year they need to be replaced. Hell, maybe not even every 5-10 years, I don't know for sure. You cannot HONESTLY sit here and say that the U.S military would crumble if Congress reduced how much money was spent for nuclear funding.

But I think the real problem I have with your post is the fact that you are so sure that the U.S doesn't plan on using any chemical warfare. It has been done in the past, so what makes you believe they won't again. you have yet to answer anyone as to exactly why you are so sure that the U.S won't go that far. The government keeps a lot of what they actually do hidden from us, just so they would have the support of people like you.

But hey, the U.S couldn't possibly be corrupt or anything. Thats un-heard of. No.. no..no.... the U.S.A is the ideal government. We would never gain our freedom by oppressing others. They are the terrorist. We are the victims here. Nevermind paying billions of dollars to support Isreal, nope.. theres no political agenda there. Or hey, The Iran-Contra scandal....please, Reagon couldn't of possibly of known about that, even though everyone around him went to jail. And now, the possiblity of using Nucs.. IMPOSSIBLE. The U.S would never try to harm the civilans of other countries. The USA stands for humanity, (forget that African Americans didn't have rights until the 60's.)

all we're trying to tell you is stop being so damn naive. You seem like your smart, I'll admit that. So come on, use your brain.

oh, and by the way. My cousin's father used to work on airplanes in the airforce. He would load the bombs and so forth. He died this summer from cancer, and right now their family is in the middle of a huge lawsuit. And that's all I can say about that.

[Imperial Power]

Why the US will not use chemical warfare:

1) World Opinion

2) Domestic Opinion

3) Allied break up

4) Treaties

5) Mentality about use of chemical weapons.

The last time the United States used chemical weapons was WWI unless your goign to count defoleants in the Vietnam War.

Yes I can say the military would be in deep shit without nuclear weapons. Enemies could wipe out entire divisions while we fought with conventional weapons. How do you think the allies planed to defend Europe if the red tanks rolled? The didn't have the man power but nuclear weapons would have stopped the assault. You say the government keeps a lot hidden, that they do. But I probable have more insight to the military then you. You ask why?
My dad is a full colonel he was in the Air Force for 30 years. I have lived on bases all over. My dad worked in the Pentagon for 11 years as assistant to the Secretary of Defense. He was chief of staff of the 21st Air force and dirceted special forces in Panama with Colin Powell. So I stay well informed of the current situation.

[DestinDisaster]

I understand the treaties that America has in place about the use of nuclear warfare. Which is why I have been so sure for all these years that nuclear warfare was out of the question. Infact, when the possiblity was debated earlier this year, I argued that it would be over the top. Notice my post under nuclear attack where I mention that I was not sure if the U.S could actully propose the use of Nuc's due to U.N sanctions. But this is when I became unsure,

Tuesday, March 12 The Argus(a local Fremont Newspaper)
"The Pentagon's proposed new nuclear strategy, outlined in a secret report that came out last week, it's intended to make atomic weapons useful again-by making them useful for a new set of enemies.
The overall purpose, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeild wrote, is to "provide the president with a range of options to defeat any aggressor."

Now one can conclude numerus things from that paragraph.

1.) The U.S plans on using our stockpile's for intimidation against afghanistan, but most likely the soviet union and Iraq. Afghanistan is not equip for any such warfare.

2.)"provide the president with a range of options to defeat any aggressor." If the president feels it's neccessary to use atomic, small or large scale, or bio-chemical weaponry, he has that option. He has the support of military officials. If he felt it was "neccessary and proper" he will need congress approval.

3.) right now he <i think> has 90% approval rating from congress. Last year, all except Barbra Lee, voted to give Bush more power when it comes to military affairs.

4.) Bush would need to get approval from other world leaders: Blair last week annouced that he will fully suppot Bush, and backs the U.S on the need to expand the war.

5.)the soviet union has three missing weapons of mass destruction, as told to me by my friend stationed near sacramento.

6.)condoleezza rice stated in a televison interview "The way you do that [intimidate other countries] is to send a very strong signal to anyone who might try to use weapons of mass destruction against the United States that they will be met with a devasting response."

Now, argue all you want. In the end you are just making my point more clear. Sure, RIGHT NOW we might not be "planning" on using weapons of mass destuction. But it IS A OPTION that the U.S is willing (and prepairing) to pursue.

again, I emphaisize prepairing.

[DestinDisaster]

To derar,

I thought you might find this useful.

STUDY LINKS VETERANS AND KIDNEY DAMAGE

London- a few soldiers-mainly americans- might suffer kidney damage from depleted uranium munitions used in the Persian Gulf and Balkans conflits if they swallowed or inhaled any of the dust, according to a report published Tuesday.

Most at risk are those involved in friendly fire ncidents or involved in cleanup activities, said the assessment by The Royal Society, Britain's academy of scientist.

The report came last year when question was rased that the dust created by hits with depleted uranium shells cold cause cancer or metal posoning.

Italian researchers began studying the illnesses ofverterans of Balkans peace keeping missions after noting an apparently hgh number of cancers. Scores of other countries then announced they would also begin screeing their troops fr depleted uranium exposure and unexplained illness.

Levels of uranium in the kidneys of sodiers surving in tanks struck by DU rounds, or soldiers working fo protracted periods in struck tanks, could reach concentrations that lead to some kidney dysfunction


I got that from my newspaper also. I hope you read that.

[DestinDisaster]

oh, IP one more thing

We dropped the bomb in wwII in Japan, Not wwI

[commie]

fuck you IP

[poncho]

Several reason's exist currently for America to threaten nuclear war. China wants and makes no secret about it, Taiwan for its energy reasources, while America is mixed-up in a war on terrorism they make take the opp. to grab it while America who also wants it is busy. Especially true if they go after Iraq. Another potential "war" that America might have to get into is in Columbia, things are queitly heating up there. Either way its perfect time for China to go and grab what they want. War with the Chinese with conventional methods would be insane, akin to Bill Gates getting into a ring with Mike Tyson. North Korea might try simular scenario with the South version. Iran could help trigger a Middle East backlash against America and Isreal.

The Nuclear threat just might limit how big a war may get with a couple potential enemy's of the U.S..

[DestinDisaster]

whoa, a couple of days and IP hasn't replied. are u there? or did u just back down?

[Imperial Power]

Destin it seems you are the one who has backed down I've been waiting for you to make a point. I'm impressed that you knew nuclear bombs were used in WW2. Unfortuantly I was talking about chemical weapons if you read what I said. I don't think you even know that chemical weapons are different than nuclear weapons. From what you've said it seems you mix the two together along with biological weapons. But in the end what is your point Destin?

[Moskitto]

What about phosporus bombs in Vietnam? They aren't exactly defoliants.

[DestinDisaster]

"The day nuclear weapons fly is the armageddon."-IP's first thread.

My whole deal with wasting my time writting to you was based off what you said above. You've been arguing saying that the U.S doesn't plan on using Nucs, which is why you STARTED this thread. And then you called us morons. My point was you could never be sure what the government was planning on doing. you should never say never, couldn't or wouldn't. It could happen. That's all I was saying. I think it's naive to think otherwise.

And then we started going off on tangents. Mainly my beef was government spending, I'm not going to explain myself again. If your confused read the past post. But you know what, I don't blame you for why you don't agree with me. Conservatives always seem to argue when it comes to helping others, but when it comes to helping themselves, or killing others, conservatives tend to not argue.

I'm sorry that you're a closed minded loser, oh excuse me. I meant conservative.

And about reading what you said, I did. But, I don't think you ever read what I wrote. You may have read a line or two, but you still never fully answered anything I wrote. You usually answered a question with a question. You never answered anyones question's actually. You just always seemed to have some childish comeback and name calling.

Did anyone else notice that?

You stoop real low and never make a point. Let me guess, you think your the most mature person in the community, probally the smartest also. Well, you can go on believing that, I don't believe in crushing dreams. But all I can say is if you read the post of numerus other comrades in this community you will find that they surpass you in many ways. The most obvious is maturity, since they agree to disagree. I think your stuck in your Id stage. Grow up.

If you didn't notice I kept reverting back to the nuclear weapon topic because you never answered me. But I don't care anymore, I'm tired of talking with you. quite frankly, you bore me.

But before I go I was just wondering, are you 12-14?

[Imperial Power]

Destin, Destin, Destin... I accept your backing down as you would say. All thats happened here is I helped you get your critical thinking going and your now your lying to yourself.

"It doesn't seem like he even care's about the bio-chemical weapons that the U.S has placed in middle eastern countries, or hell, even African countries for that matter."-so this was about nuclear weapons?

"And then you called us morons"-ha ha

"You just always seemed to have some childish comeback and name calling"- point it out for me

. "But I don't care anymore, I'm tired of talking with you. quite frankly, you bore me."- no it just got to hard for you.

[DestinDisaster]

Too hard for me? Not likely. You just bug the hell out of me.

When I was referring to bio-chemicals weapons, I admit, I went off on a tangent, but I was commiting on a post made by another person. Like I said, if you ever get confused, go back and read it. I admit that some of the post I made are a little off the wall, I've been really sick lately. Besides, you never got my point anyway, so there is really no reason to continue. Like I said, you bore me.

Point it out to you? Well, first of all, calling this post Morons. Nice. Very nice. And then calling the majority of the people on this most either lacking intelligence, or between the ages of 12-14.

obviously you suffer from short term memory loss.

It's not that I'm backing down, it's that I could really care less to continue. You never made any good point in my eyes.

So continue on with whatever point you were trying to make.

As for "morons" it's really getting no where.

[pastradamus]

SHUT the fuck up you stupid bastard!
If I were u IP i'd shut my mouth about nuclear,biological & chemical wepons.
You support america! A state of all out terroists!
Let me recomend a good book,"DEATH FACTORIES" it's about chemical & biological warfare through the ages.
& if you still support your theory after that maybe then we'll continue this argument.

[deadpool 52]

The fact is America is one of the leading terrorist nations in the world. Anyone who generalizes an entire age group is ignorant and close-minded.

[boadicea88]

Amen to Pa and DeadPool. IP, love your title... Malte, I hope you get paid well for stuff like that, you deserve it :)