Islamic Terrorists killed in Xinjiang

[Sky]

Two members of a terrorist gang were killed and 15 others were arrested during a raid last month by police in Urumqi, capital of the Xinjiang Uygur autonomous region, the Beijing-based Global Times reported Monday.

It is the largest terrorist group to be broken by police for over a year, the paper said.

Five policemen were injured during the raid on Jan 27 when three homemade grenades were thrown at them, the newspaper reported. The terrorists had been undertaking training exercises and assembling explosives at a rented house in the city, it said.

Guns, homemade explosives and training materials were discovered in the house following the raid. Police said they also found evidence linking the gang to terrorist groups abroad.

The arrested members have all pleaded guilty to the charges, the newspaper reported.

The raid was the latest in a series of efforts by the local government to crack down on violent activities by Uygur separatists who have carried out several terrorist acts since the 1990s.

In January last year, police killed 18 terrorists in a gun battle in Xinjiang. One officer was also killed and another wounded in the raid in the mountains of the Pamirs plateau in the southern region.
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2008-02/19/content_6464982.htm


The Islamists in the Xinjiang region of China are reactionary separatists whose actions divide the unity of the Chinese and Uighur workers. The tiny group of "East Turkestan" terrorists fled abroad from Xinjiang collaborated with those at home, and looked for opportunities to carry out splittist and sabotage activities with the support of internationial anti-China forces. Influenced by religious extremism and international terrorism, the "East Turkestan" forces inside and outside China have turned to terrorist violence as their chief means. In order to get out of their predicament, the “East Turkistan” forces have raised the banner of “human rights” and fabricated claims that “the Chinese government is using every opportunity to oppress ethnic minorities,” to mislead the public and deceive world opinion in order to escape blows dealt by the struggle against terrorism.

It was Lenin who called for "the need to combat Pan-Islam and similar trends" whose interests are to "strengthen the positions of the khans, landowners, mullahs, etc."
http://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1920/jun/05.htm

[spartan]

I thought that you openly expressed support for the Taleban?

Anyway arent non-Han Chinese citizens discriminated against in China to a certain extent?

[Sky]

I thought that you openly expressed support for the Taleban?
There is no Taliban in China. The Taliban is based in the ethnic Afghan provinces of southwestern Afghanistan and in northwestern Pakistan.


Anyway arent non-Han Chinese citizens discriminated against in China to a certain extent?
No.

Ethnic minorities enjoy full representation rights in people’s congresses at all levels.

Ethnic minorities’ freedom and right to use and develop their own spoken and written languages are fully respected and protected.

Ethnic minorities’ folkways and customs are fully respected.

Ethnic minorities’ educational level is continuously rising.

Ethnic minorities’ traditional culture is protected and flourishing.
http://www.china.org.cn/e-white/20030526/8.htm

[Dean]

The Islamists in the Xinjiang region of China are reactionary separatists whose actions divide the unity of the Chinese and Uighur workers. The tiny group of "East Turkestan" terrorists fled abroad from Xinjiang collaborated with those at home, and looked for opportunities to carry out splittist and sabotage activities with the support of internationial anti-China forces. Influenced by religious extremism and international terrorism, the "East Turkestan" forces inside and outside China have turned to terrorist violence as their chief means. In order to get out of their predicament, the “East Turkistan” forces have raised the banner of “human rights” and fabricated claims that “the Chinese government is using every opportunity to oppress ethnic minorities,” to mislead the public and deceive world opinion in order to escape blows dealt by the struggle against terrorism.

It was Lenin who called for "the need to combat Pan-Islam and similar trends" whose interests are to "strengthen the positions of the khans, landowners, mullahs, etc."
http://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1920/jun/05.htm
OK... You don't like it when people try to form a nationalist identity outside of a repressive regime? Good for you, but don't pretend that there is anything good about China right now. If anything, sedition is admirable.

[spartan]

There is no Taliban in China. The Taliban is based in the ethnic Afghan provinces of southwestern Afghanistan and in northwestern Pakistan.

The point was that the Taleban (Who you support) are Islamist terrorists just like these Uygur terrorists (Who you condemn) are.

Bit of a contradiction on your part wouldnt you agree?

[RNK]

Lol wtf

Besides the contradiction which slaps one in the face like a wet, bloody fish...

Your rhetoric is fucking disturbing, dude. You sound like one of those stereotypical dictatorial ministers of propaganda who make the most absurd statements and manage to keep the straightest faces while doing it (probably because their family is being held at gunpoint just off camera, but still)

Also, lol at "folkways"

Also, lol how you've gone from sounding like one of Bin Laden's Lieutenants, to sounding like Donald Rumsfeld, in the blink of an eye (not that the two are altogether very different).

I'm alarmed however that you seem to have taken so kindly to China. I mean, I don't even know how to inform you of the fact that China is an oppressive revisionist country dominated by beauraucratic neo-capitalists who are extorting billions in profit from enslaved workers who're forced to swallow communist rhetoric but never get to live it.

Since I don't know where to start, I won't.

[Dean]

Also, lol how you've gone from sounding like one of Bin Laden's Lieutenants, to sounding like Donald Rumsfeld, in the blink of an eye (not that the two are altogether very different).
This is true, but I don't see sky as a total enemy. I think she is trying to find a revolutionary stance to have on things she doesn't know enough about. And she is very stubborn. I see her as a person who clearly needs some "reeducation" on world politics, but appears to have her heart in the right place.

Sky, I suggest you look at the politics forum a bit to see what info others have; better yet, read some Chomsky.

[RNK]

I think she is trying to find a revolutionary stance


better yet, read some Chomsky.

Lol, because Chomsky is SO revolutionary.

[Sky]

I think she is trying to find

I'm not a female.


The point was that the Taleban (Who you support) are Islamist terrorists just like these Uygur terrorists (Who you condemn) are.


The situation in the Xinjiang region of China is not comparable to that in Afghanistan. In one case, there are reactionary, feudal-minded terrorists trying to detach Xinjiang from China and disrupt the bourgeois revolution under way in that area. In the other, there is a colonial occupation that hampers the development of the national economy against which the Afghan people led by the Taliban are resisting. Whereas the Taliban in Afghanistan represent progress, the so-called "East Turkestan" groups in Xinjiang are ultra reactionaries.

I'm alarmed however that you seem to have taken so kindly to China. I mean, I don't even know how to inform you of the fact that China is an oppressive revisionist country dominated by beauraucratic neo-capitalists who are extorting billions in profit from enslaved workers

I disagree. The Communist Party of China continues the tradition of Chairman Mao.

[RNK]

I can't believe some people still believe that. *sigh*

Anyway, it's a different case for a different time.

[Dean]

Lol, because Chomsky is SO revolutionary.

He is, but that isn't why I suggest he read Chomsky. I suggest it because Chomsky is a good source for understanding foreign policy.

[spartan]

The situation in the Xinjiang region of China is not comparable to that in Afghanistan. In one case, there are reactionary, feudal-minded terrorists trying to detach Xinjiang from China and disrupt the bourgeois revolution under way in that area. In the other, there is a colonial occupation that hampers the development of the national economy against which the Afghan people led by the Taliban are resisting. Whereas the Taliban in Afghanistan represent progress, the so-called "East Turkestan" groups in Xinjiang are ultra reactionaries.

Ideologically the Taleban represent no progress at all.

The Taleban are just the same as these Uygur terrorists as they believe in Feudalism, Theocracy, etc and have openly stated that they want the way people live to go back to the time of the Prophet Muhammad! (6th/7th century which is before Feudalism was even properly developed).

[RGacky3]

The situation in the Xinjiang region of China is not comparable to that in Afghanistan. In one case, there are reactionary, feudal-minded terrorists trying to detach Xinjiang from China and disrupt the bourgeois revolution under way in that area. In the other, there is a colonial occupation that hampers the development of the national economy against which the Afghan people led by the Taliban are resisting. Whereas the Taliban in Afghanistan represent progress, the so-called "East Turkestan" groups in Xinjiang are ultra reactionaries.


The only difference is who they are fighting against, which if your honest, should'nt really matter. People have the right to self determanation and to resist, be it from the US or China.


No.

Ethnic minorities enjoy full representation rights in people’s congresses at all levels.

Ethnic minorities’ freedom and right to use and develop their own spoken and written languages are fully respected and protected.

Ethnic minorities’ folkways and customs are fully respected.

Ethnic minorities’ educational level is continuously rising.

Well I guess if you THAT way ... how can anyone argue with such logic and evidence.

[Sky]

The Taleban openly stated that they want the way people live to go back to the time of the Prophet Muhammad! Do you know anything about Afghanistan? Outside of Kabul, Afghanistan today is little different from what it was in the 7th century.

[Phalanx]

Do you know anything about Afghanistan? Outside of Kabul, Afghanistan today is little different from what it was in the 7th century.

Exactly, in tribally-controlled areas and Taliban areas, the country is little changed since Alexander the Great marched in 2300 years ago. And the Taliban want to keep it that way. Your hypocrisy on this subject is laughable.