Ok so who is really trying to take over the world?

[RadioRaheem84]

One thing that both libertarians like Alex Jones and Left-Libertarian/Progressive like Noam Chomsky and Howard Zinn can agree on is that Globalization is being forced on the world by higher ups in the business and political elite. But who are these political elites?

The right-wing conspiracy theorists (Alex Jones, Pat Buchanan, InfoWars) seem a bit out there and get their facts confused. They are obsessed with referring to the powers that be and their globalization schemes to be "socialist" or "communist". I do admit that they do some really great research and provide a lot of evidence for some of their claims, but most of it is nothing but politics as usual for the people they defame.

I prefer the more rationalized method of understanding power and world events that Noam Chomsky, Michael Parenti, Naomi Klein and the progressive community puts out. But it seems sometimes that they do not go deep enough into putting the pieces together.

Is there a cabal that is controlling world events? Is it even secret at all? Who is the elite in the eyes of Chomsky and Klein? What do you guys believe when it comes to world politics and the control of it by a few? Thanks.

[RadioRaheem84]

Also do you guys have any links to vids concerning both views of he "new world order"? So far I have seen The Corporation, Zeitgeist, America: From Freedom to Fascism, Globalization: The New Rulers of the World, The Money Masters and a few kind of zany Alex Jones films. Anything that you guys would recommend that I missed on globalization, international banking, etc.?

[Faux Real]

Capitalists who want an enslaved global market with cheap labor and resources dominated by themselves. Their outlook isn't viable for any considerable amount of time because of limits/contradictions they overlook in favor of immediate profit. I think so, anyway.

[Cencus]

There is no cabal, it just so happens that the what benefits one large multinational conglomerate will in all probability benefit others. Large companies interests are pretty much the same, so they pressure/campaign/bribe for the same stuff and that's a healthy wedge pushing any government in their chosen direction.

[RadioRaheem84]

There is no cabal, it just so happens that the what benefits one large multinational conglomerate will in all probability benefit others. Large companies interests are pretty much the same, so they pressure/campaign/bribe for the same stuff and that's a healthy wedge pushing any government in their chosen direction.

This is what I figured. But what do you guys make of some these rather secretive groups like the Bilderbergs, Trilateral Commision and the CFR?

[erupt]

This is what I figured. But what do you guys make of some these rather secretive groups like the Bilderbergs, Trilateral Commision and the CFR?
I can't say for sure, but I for one don't believe David Icke's theory of lizard aliens inside a human suit.

Haha, moving on..I think at least an attempt at a worldwide corporation ruling of the world is going on. How successful they are is a whole other question.

[RadioRaheem84]

I think that these groups influence public policy in the direction that favors business.

[mykittyhasaboner]

the freemason theory is pretty popular, it holds some ground evidence wise, like that cool star of david anagram on the back of the dollar. but it seems like all the theories regarding a freemason plot to take over the world is not answering everything...what ever just another theory, but who do i think is taking over the world? Capitalist governments/organizations, and religions. As far as paranormal activity, i guess its possible, we shouldnt rule it out.

[Cencus]

This is what I figured. But what do you guys make of some these rather secretive groups like the Bilderbergs, Trilateral Commision and the CFR?

They are exactly what I mean, big money applying pressure on government, not that our elected representatives need much pressure in most cases. Sometimes it's overt like companies demanding subsidies to open new factories, other times they use more covert like these groups, or the use of lobby groups.

[RNK]

There are lots of closed-door meetings that we in the general public can not even fathom. There are committees and groups made up of representatives from every large multinational company, who are given front-row tickets to state official's private parties. Presidents routinely meet with influential business leaders to decide economic matters; a good example is the Security and Prosperity Partnership, which is made up of representatives of the 30 richest companies in North America. They got the leaders of the US, Canada and Mexico to go on a litle vacation to a chateau here in Quebec, where they discussed, privately, economic matters.

And that's only the public face of this co-operation.

[Winter]

I for one believe there is some form of "New World Order" going on. As for them being devil worshippers, well, that's just silly.

There religion is Social Darwinism. They believe it is there birthright to own the world and that the masses must always serve their interests.

There's absolutely nothing paranormal about them, just the natural products of capitalism.

[Schrödinger's Cat]

Certain people in positions of power and wealth over others have always had a knack for wanting to expand their influence. It just so happens with the level technology and globalization going on today, the accessibility of power is more aparent. I wouldn't call that a secret. Right-"libertarians" generally view any powerful structure as communist and socialist -- so I would take their remarks with a pitcher of salt. :D

[Jazzratt]

The people who want to take over the world already have; they did it in the open, and they didn't need any conspiracies.

[Dros]

One thing that both libertarians like Alex Jones and Left-Libertarian/Progressive like Noam Chomsky and Howard Zinn can agree on is that Globalization is being forced on the world by higher ups in the business and political elite. But who are these political elites?

The right-wing conspiracy theorists (Alex Jones, Pat Buchanan, InfoWars) seem a bit out there and get their facts confused. They are obsessed with referring to the powers that be and their globalization schemes to be "socialist" or "communist". I do admit that they do some really great research and provide a lot of evidence for some of their claims, but most of it is nothing but politics as usual for the people they defame.

I prefer the more rationalized method of understanding power and world events that Noam Chomsky, Michael Parenti, Naomi Klein and the progressive community puts out. But it seems sometimes that they do not go deep enough into putting the pieces together.

Is there a cabal that is controlling world events? Is it even secret at all? Who is the elite in the eyes of Chomsky and Klein? What do you guys believe when it comes to world politics and the control of it by a few? Thanks.

THE ILLUMINATI!!!

In all seriousness, the people who are doing this are the bourgeois forces, specifically in the first and second world that are invested heavily in continued imperialism.

[Raúl Duke]

It's just capitalism...the people in control are those with capital (specifically financial...money.) yet mostly this power is exercised the most by corporate people.

Although I wouldn't be surprise if a small business owner(s) got around and exercised theirs against the interests of the masses.

[RNK]

I always like it when radical libertarians accuse bourgeois politicians of being "communists". I had one who believed to his core that Bill Clinton was a Marxist.

Whenever I hear that, I can't help but smirk.

[Cheung Mo]

I know...It's just as absurd as referring to China as Marxist.

[Martin Blank]

Who is really trying to take over the world?

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Yes!

[Schrödinger's Cat]

Alex Jones and Pat Buchanan are nutters, anyway. Watch the video (actually an audio) of him interviewing Noam Chomsky. After Chomsky leaves, Alex Jones breaks out in the most immature rant I've ever heard. He calls Chomsky a shill for the New World Order. :D

[Psy]

One thing that both libertarians like Alex Jones and Left-Libertarian/Progressive like Noam Chomsky and Howard Zinn can agree on is that Globalization is being forced on the world by higher ups in the business and political elite. But who are these political elites?

The right-wing conspiracy theorists (Alex Jones, Pat Buchanan, InfoWars) seem a bit out there and get their facts confused. They are obsessed with referring to the powers that be and their globalization schemes to be "socialist" or "communist". I do admit that they do some really great research and provide a lot of evidence for some of their claims, but most of it is nothing but politics as usual for the people they defame.

I prefer the more rationalized method of understanding power and world events that Noam Chomsky, Michael Parenti, Naomi Klein and the progressive community puts out. But it seems sometimes that they do not go deep enough into putting the pieces together.

Is there a cabal that is controlling world events? Is it even secret at all? Who is the elite in the eyes of Chomsky and Klein? What do you guys believe when it comes to world politics and the control of it by a few? Thanks.
There is no secret cabal.

It is best to think like mafia dons that once had a kind of peace due to the markets being equally divided amoung the mafia families, all of a sudden finding a growing uneasiness as growth in the markets slow.

Meaning the ruling class no longer can focus on just maximizing profits as there is another looming world war between the bourgeoisie over markets (just like World War I and II) yet this time around the bourgeoisie is divided over if they should compromise rate of profits to maintain a general peace as they are getting mixed singles from us (the proletariat) and really don't know what we would do if they actually kicked World War III to repartition the world again.

[chegitz guevara]

Ok so who is really trying to take over the world?

I am.

[shorelinetrance]

watch zeitgeist and all will be understood.

/sarcasm

[cappin]

They're around, but probably not who you'd expect. Owners of cable and radio stations. They want to sell, and nothing else. Nobody is exempt from capitalist conditioning. There is no evil man playing us like puppets; we're actually fucking ourselves over. When contemplating on whether or not China is devising a secret plan to take over the world, John Oliver said America should raise a flag that says "There is nothing you can do to us we haven't already done to ourselves."

The best way to be sure is not to start conspiracies because you're afraid of your ignorance on the matter, but to look into it and find the real facts.

[cappin]

Oh, Google/Youtube is one.


11:48 10 October 2006
Search giant Google announced on Monday that it would acquire the hot young video-sharing website YouTube, in a $1.65 billion stock deal.
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