Cuban paramilitary met this weekend, "post-Fidel"

[Dominicana_1965]

I translated it to english on Google, so that's the reason why it's kind of eh.

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February 23, 2008 .- Alpha 66, the paramilitary group of self-exiled Cubans in Miami, which was established in 1961 by 66 militants funded by the United States government and training from the CIA, met this weekend in Torrance, California to design a strategy for the period post-Fidel "in Cuba.

Alpha 66 was trained during the sixties and seventies in the Florida Everglades in the state to launch an armed invasion in Cuba.
Fueron sus miembros los participantes en la invasión fracasada de Bahia de Cochinos.
Its members were participants in the invasion failed Bay of Pigs.
In the year 1976, Lt. Thomas Lyons and Detective Raul Diaz of the police in Miami stated that the organization Alpha 66 had links with international terrorists.

Alpha 66 has been involved in a series of killings and bomb attacks against Cuban and foreign interests "pro-Castro" in Miami during the seventies.
Members of Alpha 66 tried multiple times to assassinate Fidel Castro and carried weapons clandestinely to the island to try to provoke an armed insurrection against the Cuban government.

They have more than forty years conducting violent and terrorist actions against Cuba.
One of the known terrorists linked to Alpha 66 is Luis Posada Carriles, responsible for more than 100 terrorist attacks in Latin America including the bombing of the Cuban plane in October 1976 which killed 73 people.

The criminal and terrorist acts of Alpha 66 are publicly known to have a webpage (http://www.alpha66.org/index (http://64.233.179.104/translate_c?hl=en&langpair=es%7Cen&u=http://www.alpha66.org/index.html). Html) (http://64.233.179.104/translate_c?hl=en&langpair=es%7Cen&u=http://www.alpha66.org/index.html) where highlights detailing his actions with explosives and other armanentos against Cuban and foreign interests that support Cuba, many of whom have killed innocent people.

However, this group acts freely within the United States - another example of the hypocrisy and double standards of Washington and its alleged "war on terrorism".

And this weekend, the old Alpha 66 are assembled at its Seventh National Congress, where he discussed with full freedom, a new way to intervene in Cuba to support "dissidents" on the island with the "transitional post-Fidel" .

Ernesto Diaz Rodriguez, secretary general of Alpha 66 and one of its founders, I note that the Congress would make a "call to dissidents to unite with them."

The terrorist group Alpha 66 is headquartered in Miami, with "delegates" and offices in California and New York.

[RNK]

If you ask me, this should constitute the assembling of a pro-Fidel "paramilitary group" with the equally amibitious task of protecting Cuba from these terrorists.

[ellipsis]

If you ask me, this should constitute the assembling of a pro-Fidel "paramilitary group" with the equally amibitious task of protecting Cuba from these terrorists.

count me in.

these guys are murders who operate with impunity in this country. anti-chavez militias are found in the same area and often train/conspire with anti-castro "freedom fighters.

[jake williams]

If you ask me, this should constitute the assembling of a pro-Fidel "paramilitary group" with the equally amibitious task of protecting Cuba from these terrorists.
I'm in. I would actually love to go.

[Sankofa]

I agree, but unfortunately, I don't think a rag-tag group of Leftists could actually accomplish anything against Alpha 66.

They happen to be counterrevolutionary, bourgeois fucks but it's foolish to under estimate them. They are dangerous and have the full support of the U.S. government; which completely turn their heads at Alpha 66's terrorist activity.

The have no problem raiding Cuban coastlines and airspace, strafe military outposts with small arms fire (on beach resorts reserved for foreign tourists, no less), and then cry foul when Cuba retaliates against them.

Hell, they've even murdered American citizens in Miami who were critical of their tactics and opinions toward Castro. I think in reality, we'd be thrown into Guantanamo and Alpha 66 will continue their terrorism unopposed.

[jake williams]

I agree, but unfortunately, I don't think a rag-tag group of Leftists could actually accomplish anything against Alpha 66.
Well I'm not exactly thinking we put together a RevLeft Attack Squad to go kill us some Miamian semi-fascist mafiosos, I'm just saying that the defence of Cuba may be a serious consideration pretty soon and we ought start thinking about what to do. It's hard to say though, of course.

[Guerrilla22]

those guys are nothing more than mere thugs who happen to have recieved military training. They've never accomplished anything meangiful in their entire existence and aren't likely to accomplish the destruction of the revolution anytime soon.

[Raúl Duke]

More specifically, I heard they have support among some of the older generation of the Miami Cuban exile community, which probably have money...

Unless you want to set your base of operations somewhere in Miami but outside the Cuban majority-populated areas...

hmm...

Although, they've been operating for a long time and their attacks, while usually aimed to create civilian deaths (umm, the shot into farming fields. People work in them. Also the tourist areas mentioned.) and destroy some property yet they haven't done anything "big" that has created a crisis in Cuba, to my knowledge.

[Lector Malibu]

The reason why Alpha 66 is over looked is because they have always done the United States biding in regard to Cuba. Don't forget Alpha 66 was started by the veterans of the failed CIA Bay of Pigs invasion. The United States will continue to support them or any group that represents their intentions in Cuba, There has been around 600 assassination attempts on Castro's life no joke. As we all know though Americas definition of a terrorist is any group that does not support their imperialistic capitalist agenda plain and simple.

[Gitfiddle Jim]

The US will support any group that is anti-Castro. I imagine that many of Alpha 66's planned assassinations were also orchestrated by the CIA.


If you ask me, this should constitute the assembling of a pro-Fidel "paramilitary group" with the equally amibitious task of protecting Cuba from these terrorists.

Definitely.

[Lector Malibu]

The US will support any group that is anti-Castro. I imagine that many of Alpha 66's planned assassinations were also orchestrated by the CIA.

Exactly, the CIA has also coordinated with the mob quite a few times on this issue and failed as well.

[chegitz guevara]

Keep in mind that a lot of Alpha 66's membership is approaching 70. They're all gonna die off in the next decade. Omega 7 has already gone the way of the dodo. Vigilia Mimbisa is willing to attack me :mad:, but I doubt they'd cross the Florida straights and fight someone who would hit back. Alpha 66 couldn't even kep 6 Code Pinkers and 6 other fools who followed them, from demonstrating outside Versailles restaurant in Little Havana, which is the gusanos spiritual headquarters. They are weak, divided, and old. All I want is to keep them from putting a bomb under my car.

[ellipsis]

All I want is to keep them from putting a bomb under my car.

Me too, luckily its not a hard task living in the NE of the US.

[bolshevik butcher]

I assume that this is just macho internet posturing (I certainly hope so.) Forming an armed leftwing militia in the current political climate would be for the task of agent provoceateurs (conscious and unconscious). Such tactics would be completely ineffective unless anyone here is seriously suggesting that they could take on the biggest imperialist military machine the world has ever known.

Such tactics would do nothing but destroy any base that the left has in any area and push the mass of the working class in America away from any contact with the left. It would just isolate further the left wing in America and destroy what left there is. The revolution in Cuba will be furthered by extending the revolution beyond Cuba's border. It has been boosted already by the revolutionary developments in Venezuela and Bolivia and by the general shift to the left in Latin America. Che Guevara identified the vital role that needed to be played by the working class in "the belly of the beast" and saw the need to fight for a socialist revolution there.

Boys talking about playing with guns won't bring that about.

[( R )evolution]

What is probably the worst aspect of Alpha 66 or any Cuban exile organization is that the American bourgeoisie system and media loves to present Alpha 66 and other of these military or any Cuban exile groups as reflecting the true opinion of all Cubans. They try to create the image that native Cubans are begging for Alpha 66 and other organizations to come save them from the horrible Castro and this supposed wretched system. When in reality a majority of Cubans love their lives. And have a completely different view. This is probably the most damaging part of these organizations because in all reality they have done horrible reactionary things in the past but their influence and power has slowly steaded down with the old age of members. So they have just become another propaganda tool against the Cuban people and government

[RNK]

I assume that this is just macho internet posturing (I certainly hope so.) Forming an armed leftwing militia in the current political climate would be for the task of agent provoceateurs (conscious and unconscious).

Do you realize that propagating this dogmatic and irrational fear of "agent provocateurs" is doing nothing more than playing into the hands of neoliberal social democrats? God, it sickens me how some people will openly embrace a fundamentally reactionary stance when it suits their agenda.


Such tactics would do nothing but destroy any base that the left has in any area and push the mass of the working class in America away from any contact with the left.

Or, it would radicalize workers by providing them with a concrete example of class-conscious revolutionaries standing up to the state, and by exposing the oppression of the state for all to see.


Che Guevara identified the vital role that needed to be played by the working class in "the belly of the beast" and saw the need to fight for a socialist revolution there.

It's funny you people are so quick to idolize Che, and then turn around and betray his beliefs (then again, many leftists adopt rhetoric based on pop culture to try and boost their own popularity -- mimicking the neoliberal disgust for violence, adopting the anti-materialist demonization of communist leaders). Tell me -- how exactly did Che feel workers in the "belly of the beast" should fight for socialist revolution?

[jake williams]

Tell me -- how exactly did Che feel workers in the "belly of the beast" should fight for socialist revolution?
Arguing about it on the internet. He particularly hoped that people would Nail each other for not being Marxist enough.

[Davie zepeda]

Che is just a man like we all are we need to realize that the glorification of one is nothing but trouble but what we do need to do is have his determination to create and bring about a better world based on good morals.

[RNK]

Arguing about it on the internet. He particularly hoped that people would Nail each other for not being Marxist enough.

well fuck then we're on the right track!!!

[Sankofa]

Arguing about it on the internet. He particularly hoped that people would Nail each other for not being Marxist enough.

win.

[chegitz guevara]

Me too, luckily its not a hard task living in the NE of the US.

I live about 30 - 40 minutes from Little Havana. I'm a little more paranoid about them.

[chegitz guevara]

Or, it would radicalize workers by providing them with a concrete example of class-conscious revolutionaries standing up to the state, and by exposing the oppression of the state for all to see.

Please tell me in exactly which imperialist country, a Marxist guerrilla movement has led to a general armed uprising by the working class . . . or even increased militancy. Let's forget the imperialist core. How about less developed urbanized capitalist countries, like Chile or Argentina?

Historically speaking, such attempts have always led to calls for increased crackdowns against lawlessness and banditry by workers themselves. Slavish adherence to Mao's revolution by Maoists is just as dogmatic and disconnected to reality as is slavish adherence to the Russian model by Trotskyists. As Lenin wrote, there is no blueprint for making the revolution. Each society must forge its own path according to the particular settings and circumstances and culture and history it has. There will be no guerrilla uprising leading to an overthrow of capitalism in the United States. We have to find our own way, not ape the revolutions that came before us.

[bolshevik butcher]

Do you realize that propagating this dogmatic and irrational fear of "agent provocateurs" is doing nothing more than playing into the hands of neoliberal social democrats? God, it sickens me how some people will openly embrace a fundamentally reactionary stance when it suits their agenda.n

What I said was that you were playing the role of an agent provoceateur not that you were one. You are playing the same role in this infantile ultra leftist idea of launching a revolution and completing the revolution for the working class. Such ideas have failed at the best of times in America nevermind in the current time of relatively low class consciousness and just lead revolutionary leftist down the wrong path.


Or, it would radicalize workers by providing them with a concrete example of class-conscious revolutionaries standing up to the state, and by exposing the oppression of the state for all to see.

It's not a concrete example that identifies with the everyday lives and actions of American workers. A few leftists taking part in "urban guerilla" actions or whatever you are proposing is not the method of sturggle of the mass working class, and a failure to agitate within the working class movement or use methods that the mass of the working class can participate in means to ignore the importance of builing a mass revolutionary movement.


It's funny you people are so quick to idolize Che, and then turn around and betray his beliefs.

I am not a Guevaraist and I don't pretend to be. While I admire Che Guevara I certainly do not idolise him. I think that he made many mistakes. Whilst being a genuine socialists I also see him as being an adventurist. I don't really want to sidetrack this debate onto one about Che Guevara but I am willing to discuss this somewhere if you like.

I don't have a disgust for violence by the way. I have a disgust for the incorrect methods of urban guerillaism that have not advanced our cause anywhere. Look at Ireland now, 30 years of a sustained campaign and despite all the heroics of the Irish republican working class a united or socialist Ireland is as far away as ever.

Interetinsly though Che Gueara said that guerilla warfare was a bad tactic in the industiralised countries and came out against guerillaism in the industrialised countries in an interview. He obviously was somewhat more of material conditions.

[THKO]

if cuba need us i will go cuba for fight. i love cuba

[ninjakik]

I
Boys talking about playing with guns won't bring that about. correct boys playing with guns wont bring that about but a serious group of leftist revolutionaries have all the tools necisary to accomplish a goal of defeating the popular force. A).the will of the people i.e. leftist(which are not few in number) and B).a dedication to erradicating capitalist pigs

[RNK]

What I said was that you were playing the role of an agent provoceateur not that you were one.

Fucking semantics, who gives a shit?


You are playing the same role in this infantile ultra leftist idea of launching a revolution and completing the revolution for the working class.

No, if I'm playing any role it is that -- you know what? I'm so sick of having this arguement about bourgeois democracy. If you're so sure that voting for fucking Ralph Nader or being a fucking David vs. Goliath idealistic fucking romanticized myth, go right ahead.


Such ideas have failed at the best of times in America nevermind in the current time of relatively low class consciousness and just lead revolutionary leftist down the wrong path.


Yeah and voting for change has really accomplished so fucking much, hasn't it. Unions today are so fucking successful, aren't they. Popular mobilization under peaceful means has done fucking oodles to bring the bourgeoisie to its knees.


A few leftists taking part in "urban guerilla" actions or whatever you are proposing

Funny, I haven't proposed a damned thing, I've only pointed out the flaws in your hippy arguements. You haven't even bothered asking what I'd propose - you're more concerned that you're right.


...is not the method of sturggle of the mass working class, and a failure to agitate within the working class movement or use methods that the mass of the working class can participate in means to ignore the importance of builing a mass revolutionary movement.

Newsflash: This just in! The labour union movement has degenerated exponentially over the past 70 years, and peaceful mobilization has time and again failed to produce any results whatsoever!


Look at Ireland now, 30 years of a sustained campaign and despite all the heroics of the Irish republican working class a united or socialist Ireland is as far away as ever.

Look at the entire fucking world now, 150 years of unionization and parliamentarism and despite all the "heroics" of men with pens a global revolution is as far away as ever.


Interetinsly though Che Gueara said that guerilla warfare was a bad tactic in the industiralised countries and came out against guerillaism in the industrialised countries in an interview. He obviously was somewhat more of material conditions.

Then I take back saying you turned your back on Che. But you're still an idealistic fool.

Anyway, let's make something clear. And this is something I've struggled against, particularly with Trotskyists, for some time.

Basically, our only difference is our belief on the viability of a particular act: you believe that some progress can be made within the framework of the capitalist and bourgeois democratic system -- I do not. You believe that any attempts to work outside the state are the result of infantile far-leftism (a parroty.. I mean parody.. of Lenin's beliefs on the matter) -- I believe that the only option we have left is to work outside of the state; I believe that Lenin could not imagine the gains the bourgeoisie has made in terms of security, communication, hegemony and economic strangulation. He could not imagine television, movies, the mass media as we know it today, nor its complete and utter domination by the bourgeoisie. In his day, a few men with a paper press, so long as they worked hard enough, had the capability to actually challenge the state's own methods of propaganda creation and distribution -- today, we leftists can not even begin to challenge the huge array of information generation and control that the bourgeoisie have available to them. They can create thousands upon thousands of television stations, print thousands upon thousands of different newspapers and distribute them in their hundreds of millions around the world. We can't do any of this. Hell, we can't even produce a 30-second "political ad campaign" clip and have it shown on television.

The problem is that while there is a huge section of the working class which is fed up with the system, there is no way for communists to reach them all due to the challenges I've explained above. There is no way we can challenge the mass amount of information being fed to them by the bourgeoisie so long as they stay within the confines of adopting and accepting the state, the status quo and the "nature of things" (with David Suzuki).

Our only practical option is to try and push the issue outside of the restrictive bounderies the bourgeois state has erected around itself (bounderies which, as I said, Lenin could not even begin to fathom), and to create a mass movement which exists outside of it, not within it, and which is not privy to its elections, its parliaments and its rules and laws and traditions.

This necessitates the formation of a solid core, a vanguard which, yes, assumes the responsibilities of revolutionary activity -- but not, as you surmise, "above" the workers, but parallel to the workers -- as their most advanced sections. No communist, with the possible exception of Avakian (lol) believes they are above and beyond the working class. Every communist, every Maoist I know is the working class.

Take, for example, the beautiful situation happening in Venezuela. There, your "peaceful revolution" is in its prime; you've got a popular political movement which has radicalized politics -- but that's about as far as it can go. They've radicalized, but they haven't revolutionized their way of thinking. Venezuelan workers are increasingly coming up against the wall of bourgeois beauraucracy, and they are beginning to realize that there are severe and impenetrable limits to how far they can go under their current method. These conditions necessitate a violent upheavel against the state and a true revolution.