Jacques Mercader = Trotsky Assassin

[Capitalist]

Jacques Mercader murdered Trotsky in Mexico City.

Sentenced to serve 20 years in Lecumberri prison in Mexico.

Released on May 6, 1960, flown immediately to sanctuary in Havana, Cuba

After some time arrived in Moscow via Prague, decorated as a Hero of the Soviet Union, under the name of Ramon Lopez.

In the mid ‘70’s Mercader returned to Cuba where he died in 1978.

No longer proper to condone Stalinist activities, he was denied entry into the Communist Party. However, Mercader has always been revered by the KGB (now the FSP), and holds a high position in the "Memory Room."

I am SOOOOOOOO TIRED of idiotic Communists on this board saying

"Stalin was a tyrant and dictator, a Psuedo Communist...........Che Guevara, Trotsky, Fidel Castro, are True Communist - They really care about people...blah...blah,,,blaaahh,,,,more bullshit,....blah blah blah......I am NOT a Stalinist, BUT a Trotskyist, yet I support Communist Cuba & Che Guevara"

Mao = Che Guevara = Stalin = Trotsky = Fidel Castro = Pol Pot = Communist = All the same fucking thing = Communist Tyranny = Imperialism = Former Soviet Union = Cuban Sponsored Guerilla Warfare in Latin America = Long Prison Time = Innocent Lives Slaughtered = Welfare Society = Poverty = Tyranny = Tyranny = Brainwashed Society = Another Brick in the Wall

Don't just be another brick in the WALL!

Wall = Mindless Mass of Idiots!

Seek the Truth!

[Capitalist]

COME ON PEACENICKED!

YOU ARE THE TROTSKY SUPPORTER!

I am waiting for your LONG BORING REPLY

[Supermodel]

Don't you see that lumping Che and Fidel with Stalin and Mao is exactly the same argument as lumping Bush and Reagan with Hilter and Mussolini?

[Moskitto]

You forgot Leopold II. He may have killed More than Stalin and he was pretty capitalistic.

[Capitalist]

Supermodel, like most people in love with Che Guevara, you are completely IGNORANT of the man.

Che Guevara openly embraced Mao & Stalin.

Especially Mao

Nicknamed his first child - "Little Mao" - There are pictures of Che Guevara happily shaking hands with Mao (Tibetan Invader)

Fidel Castro's childhood idol was Mussolini and Hitler - Many witness accounts recall him supporting the Axis during World War II and carrying around Hitler's Mein Kampf.

Look at the way Fidel Castro speaks. He completely immitates Mussolini & Hitler's Body Language.

More like Mussolini, than Hitler.

Fidel is El Duce de Cubana.

Fidel = Mao = Stalin = Che Guevara = Hitler = Franco = Mussolini = Tyrants/Dictators

However I think Mussolini was more of a Dictator

& Fidel is more of a Tyrant

Dictators are widely/blindly accepted by the people

Tyrants are feared by the people

[Moskitto]

Yes, and there was a capitalist tyrant. His name was Leopold. He used to get people to do death marches to get rubber to make himself richer.

[peaccenicked]

CAPITALIST=FASCIST=BATISTA=POL POT=HITLER=JACK the RIPPER=GENGIS KHAN=BORGQUEEN=DEVIL=BUSH
=NODDY=MUSSOLINI=CARTER=CLINTON=KKK=THESMURFS=TRUM AN=STALIN=COMPLETE MORON.
why not take a course in elementary formal logic?

[Supermodel]

Ya know, I think we are all well aware of whom Che looked to for philosophical guidance, it' s just ridiculous for you to lump the two men together as if the outcome of their actions was the same. I would say your ignorance of the man is greater than mine. Plus, I love all mankind just the same, hatred does not exist in my life. I guess that means I love Che.

Che nicknamed his daughter little mao for the asiatic features she inherited from her peruvian mother. I call my son Mao because he wears a little Mao jacket to school. Your paranioa's freakin me out, ya know.

[Moskitto]

Did you know that Ghendis Khan committed the biggest "Genocide" of all time.

[TheDerminator]

If that is the worst Castro has done, you ought to compare him to chief executor of criminals Bush.
I know, which one I think possesses a higher ethos.
derminated.

[I Will Deny You]

Jeezus.

Capitalist, do you think that America should only trade with the 100% free (freedom of press, speech, religion, etc.) nations that give equal opportunities to everyone? I'm not going to give you that no-one-in-America-is-free-and-I-love-Mumia line, but I will tell you this: America would be a very different place if it didn't trade with nations that we can both agree are not free, or that you would call communist. What would we do without Saudi Arabia and China?

Now, if the world's sole superpower has to trade with such shitholes is it that much of a surprise that a tiny island nation had to do that? You always say the left is idealist, well I'm not naive and I know how things go. Better Trotsky's murderer than the IMF, I can tell you that. I really can't say as much as I'd like to though, because you didn't give a whole lot of information there. (I know you're against any kind of "LONG BORING REPLY" but the details would have been nice.) But what I can tell you is that I don't like Fidel Castro, I admire and respect Che but I'm aware that he was human (is there any evidence that he engineered this or even took part in this at all) and I certainly can't find a reason to even feel the need to defend myself, my beliefs (which are not communist, not everyone on this board is communist) or Che when all you've offered is that at a time while he was very busy (wasn't he the head of the National Bank then?) his government may have done something bad.

So I know I hardly ever say anything serious in this forum, but comments like these are why: I do not have absolute hate for America and I certainly don't have absolute love for Cuba. I don't absolutely support socialist ideas and I don't absolutely hate capitalist ideas. I don't absolutely support Che and it just so happens that I do absolutely hate Reagan and any Bush you can throw at me, but Clinton could have been worse. I'm not about to trip over myself to defend people (whose names I don't even know) because they worked in the same government as Che. But I am a typical user on this board: I'm young, I'm a leftist and I smell great.

I really would like to take you seriously. The problem is, you don't make it easy. If you said, "Che arranged for the man who murdered Trotsky to have a wonderful life in Cuba, and then went back to work on his Stalin shrine" and gave evidence for this, then I would examine it. I might conclude it's not big deal and say yes, Che has fucked up. I might think slightly differently about Che! But you don't have a lot of credibility with me and you didn't even try to show that Che was connected to this.

[Capitalist]

The problem with trading with communist nations is simple.

The money goes to the communist state, government, and oppressors.

The money does not go to the people.

The people continue to starve, while the government becomes stronger.

[peaccenicked]

http://www.buildfreedom.com/tanner/evolution.shtml

[Moskitto]

If America only wanted to trade with countries with a 100% clear human rights record then buying and selling would end because even america doesn't have a 100% clear human rights record.

[Guest]

Castro did not the support the axis in WW2. Sure he read Mein Kempf but so have millions of other non-nazis, heck i even want to read it sometime soon. Hitler and Mussolinni weren't his idols. He used to watch videos of their speeches and imitate them. He didn't worship them. In fact there is a rumour that during his time in the Sierra Maestra he carried a portrait of F.D. Roosevelt.

[CPK]

just because we a leftist doesn't mean we follow the leftist martyrs (if you will). socialism, communism, and etc. are completely different than comparing them to stalin, or whatever. let me give you an example.
"capitalism is bad because this guy did something bad"
do you understand now?
i wish to add a lot more, but the school bell has rung.

[Capitalist]

Castro hated Roosevelt.

The rumor is Fidel Castro (as a young child) sent Roosevelt a letter, requesting money.

Of course - Roosevelt rejected.

Castro has never cared about anything or anyone (including Che Guevara) but himself.

The man is a selfish tyrant like Saddam Hussein and Joseph Stalin.

[peaccenicked]

Capitalist is a tyrant.
he keeps on saying the same thing
and listens to nobody.

[kingbee]

che embraced stalin? i find that hard to understand- did they digitally remaster him?! he died 6 years before che, fidel, camilo etc came to power! how the fuck could che embrace him? embrace his corpse? i think not mr capitalist- where do you base your information from? many "facts" wrong my friend!