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last_angry_man
23rd February 2008, 01:51
In an earlier thread, I noted my surprise that the far Right hasn't tried to smear Obama by mentioning that former BPP leader, and current Congressman, Bobby Rush is a friend and supporter of Obama.

Instead, the Clinton campaign just came out with a ridiculous attack based on a brief meeting between Obama and Bill Ayers, and his wife Bernadine Dohrn in 1995! Ayers is also said to have donated $200 to Obama's campaign 7 years ago [I'm not allowed to include links in my posts yet, but just Google "hillary, obama and weather underground" and you'll find a dozen links.]

The Clinton team justified this attack by saying that they were just bringing up something that the Right would use in the general election. Yeah, right...

This is not intended as an endorsement of the Obama candidacy; I'm just reporting a news story. Now if Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn were running for President, that I could endorse!

Dros
23rd February 2008, 03:46
Who cares if Hillary attacks Obama?

Or if Obama wins or loses?

[Note: these questions are rhetorical.]

Nothing Human Is Alien
23rd February 2008, 04:08
Now if Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn were running for President, that I could endorse!

Why, because they at one time participated in revolutionary politics? If they're donating to a capitalist politician, it's obvious they're no longer supportable (any more than Charles Barron or Bobby Rush are).

Guerrilla22
23rd February 2008, 07:31
Why, because they at one time participated in revolutionary politics? If they're donating to a capitalist politician, it's obvious they're no longer supportable (any more than Charles Barron or Bobby Rush are).

Exactly. The left needs to quit paying attention to bourgeois politicians, they offer nothing for the workers. Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn may have been revolutionary 30 years ago, but these days they are little more than liberal college professors, who apparently donate some of their annaual salary to bourgeois politicians.

last_angry_man
23rd February 2008, 15:37
Exactly. The left needs to quit paying attention to bourgeois politicians, they offer nothing for the workers. Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn may have been revolutionary 30 years ago, but these days they are little more than liberal college professors, who apparently donate some of their annaual salary to bourgeois politicians.

I guess this is why those "smiley" things were invented, so people could more easily detect sarcasm..... Does anyone think I was seriously endorsing the former Weathermen leaders as candidates for President? I'll try to avoid lame attempts at humor in the future...

Cheung Mo
23rd February 2008, 17:58
A defeat for Hillary is a defeat for the DLC and its associated bourgeois factions. While it's hardly a panacea, it's not anything to cry about.

YSR
23rd February 2008, 18:13
I met Bill Ayers last month and we talked about the election. He said that he'd always voted Dem, even while underground, but that Dohrn had always refused to vote. It sounded like he would be supporting the Dems for the same reason that some people on this forum do: because they're ostensibly not as bad as the Republicans. In his defense, he believed that the Left should be strong on its own, and have the politicians coming to us.

I think he's wrong, and I told him so, but I figured it'd be worthwhile to relate his actual position.

KurtFF8
23rd February 2008, 19:02
This isn't the only case of such an attack on Obama:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/usnw/20080219/pl_usnw/aim_identifies_mysterious_obama_mentor_as_communis t_party_revolutionary