why america sucks

[peaccenicked]

Why America Sucks


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The 'Free' Press


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Part I

The Free Press. What a joke. What a fucking joke. Maybe we never really had a free press. Maybe it's just another one of the lies we've been bottle fed since birth.

For instance, since I was a child I was told that the First Amendment defends freedom of speech, specifically: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

It was a great idea. Too bad it's no longer true.

If you were to buy a little, local radio station and change the format of it from Christian Rock to Labor Awareness, the FCC would shut you down so fast, you wouldn't even know what happened, and they'd probably throw you in jail for good measure.

Free speech my ass.

We may have 'freer' speech that some other countries, but I strongly doubt that we're Number One on the 'Freedom of Speech Top Ten.' France, Britain, Spain, Germany, Canada, Australia, the Netherlands…I really don't think that our freedom of speech index has anything on them.

The only people in this country who think we have freedom of speech are the ones who have never seen fit to challenge the status quo of the powers that be; once you have done that, as I have in my very humble way, you will soon become the target of harassment and subterfuge the likes of which you only thought existed in the movies.

When a person speaks his or her mind and suffers some sort of mental or physical harassment as a result of it, then they do not live in a country that embraces and defends the freedom of speech.

For instance, this summer, while moving, I mailed myself some notebooks and journals care of the United States Post Office. Somewhere along the way, somebody opened the box, took out half of the notebooks, taped the box shut, and sent the remainder to me, apparently in an effort to give me a 'hint.' I'm convinced that whoever did that to me did it with deliberate forethought, and if they were not agents of an official governmental entity of law or investigation, then they were probably closely associated with that entity if only in a civilian role.

Had I the money and the time I might be able to hire a lawyer or an investigator so that the USPS would actually respond to my letters instead of blowing me off as if I were a bothersome, insignificant gnat.

Which leads me to the next revelation I'd like to share with you.

Here's America's real First Amendment: "No Money, No Rights."

One could infer that this could be extended to read, "Much money, many rights; little money, few rights."

Taken a little farther, and written more specifically in regards to the press, it could read, "The press's rights of expression are directly proportional to the collected wealth of the owners, shareholders, and advertisers of any given medium: e.g. a national news medium would be owned by, and cater to, a handful of very wealthy people whose financial interests are of a national scope - whereas a regional or local form of news, if not already a subsidiary of the aforementioned national medium, would be owned by, and therefore cater to, comparatively less wealthy people."

Laugh if you want, but despite the errors in syntax, that formula is fairly accurate.

The modern American press, especially the televised and radio broadcast version of the beast, is about the closest thing to pure, calculated propaganda there is.

In summary, if you really want to know what the hell's going on in our country and the rest of the world, don't waste your time watching syndicated network television.

[Imperial Power]

Was this article from?

www.antiamericasocialistpropaganda.com

[RedRevolutionary87]

amerika sux because it gives no second chances, amerika sux because it has the highest poverty rate out of all the developed nations, amerika sux because one must pay for healthcare, amerika sux because it forces its way on other people and cultures, and lastly amerikkka sux because people like imperial power live in it

[MindCrime]

Id like you to actually answer his post, Imperial Power, rather than try to make whitty comments. Im curious what you have to say about the issues he raises.

[Imperial Power]

Thanks!

What do you mean by no second chances?

America does not have the highest peverty rate out of all developed nations.

Most people get health care through their jobs or health plans. Why do you want the state to take care of you?

America is the melting pot of cultures. You should know everyone is allowed to keep their traditions.

Such a clever response Red!

[death b4 dishonour]

Most people get health care through their jobs or health plans. -Imperial Power

Well what if you have no job? Or what if you have no health insurance? Then you're screwed. How many people would you say is "most" people?

[RedRevolutionary87]

actually amerikkka does have the highest poverty rating of all developed countries to be exact 16.5percent of americans live in poverty, compared to sweden which has 6 percent. health care plans cost money, and what if you are retired or how about factory workers, they dont get any benefits. and no amerika does not give second chances if your bussiness goes bankrupt you are totally skrood unless you are a huge company whos bankrupcy will ruin the economy. amerika is the melting pot of all races they all kome and melt into americans they dont get to keep their identity

(Edited by RedRevolutionary87 at 9:33 pm on Feb. 19, 2002)

[Imperial Power]

No death your not screwed. Medicade pays if you can't.
If your retired after age 65 medicare pays.

What is the poverty rate in China?


How do you feel about that fact that Swedin takes over 50% income tax. A person unemployed in Swedin for over a year still receives enough money to go on month long vacations. Doesn't seem like working for the common good to me.

[RedRevolutionary87]

haha china actually pays its workers a salary above what is considered poverty also china has no unemployment, why because as a communist country work is found for every1 that is how china has a lower poverty rate.

[death b4 dishonour]

China also has one-fifth of the world's population. I would like to know how in hell your country would deal with that many people. Medicare wouldnt be so "free" anymore.

[La Resistance]

Remember that true communism has never been tried, so any prejudice you have against it will probably be televized/internetized,radioized propaganda. If russia would never have entered the arms race, what would it be like today? You base your assumptions that communism screwed iteself over, no! It was a group of greedy people that hijacked communism, just like muslim extremists are doing with ISLAM. YOU HATE MUSLIMS in general now, don't you IP(he's gonna say no, obviously, LIAR...)?

[MindCrime]

America is the richest country in the world, yet it still has homeless, starving, poor, and jobless. Other countries are leagues ahead o the domestic front. Yet America controls over half of the worlds wealth. Blame the small communist states for their problems, but you have done nothing to fix your own.

[Forever capitalism]

Both the USSR and america entered the arms race. Why did one fail and the other further consolidate their position at the top, because the Soviet systems economics could not cope and capitalism prevailed.

[peaccenicked]

"because the Soviet systems economics could not cope and capitalism prevailed."

Forever capitalist is a fascist, he tries to silence us by denying our identity as anti stalinists.
the same ways that jews were denied their identity by hitler and made something they were not.


(Edited by peaccenicked at 11:50 am on Feb. 20, 2002)

[Forever capitalism]

I'm a fascist? That's rich coming from somebody who supports a theory that establishes totalitarian regimes around the world. Peacenicked without reverting to your monotonous ways, tell me where socialism has prevailed and continuous to prevail.

[peaccenicked]

you are simply lying.

[Forever capitalism]

LOL
see you have nothing to say so you revert to your hollow and tiresome insults. The question stands peacenicked

[peaccenicked]

it does not stand
i have consistently said along with many others that socialism is not stalinism
you are lying.


(Edited by peaccenicked at 6:23 pm on Feb. 20, 2002)

[I Will Deny You]

Quote: from Forever capitalism on 12:04 pm on Feb. 20, 2002
That's rich coming from somebody who supports a theory that establishes totalitarian regimes around the world.
I don't think anyone on this board supports totalitarian regimes (there will always be someone whose opponent accuses them of supporting totalitarians, but you know what I mean) and men who claim to be both capitalist and communist have set up totalitarian regimes. Hitler is not Capitalist's responsibility, Mussolini's rise is not Imperial Power's fault . . . Stalin is not peaccenicked's fault and Castro is not in power because of me. So yes, there have been plenty of totalitarians out there and yes, it sucks, but it has nothing to do with the article that peaccenicked gave us. Now if you don't mind, I'd like to comment on it and ignore the immature arguments in this thread that have become so common in this forum:

I don't hate America. I don't wish that all Americans were dead. One thing that I think we should all remember is that America was founded by men who hated each other. The whole point of the American system is that no government will ever be perfect, even if it's run by peaccenicked. (Sorry, buddy. I still think you're great. ;)) So I realize that our system is far from perfect and I've worked my ass off to try to improve it, but I still prefer our system to Hitler's or Stalin's . . . I think we all know that this board would not have existed in the McCarthy year's or during Stalin's reign. But back to my main point . . . we don't vote simply because some people prefer the hair of one candidate to the hair of another's. We vote because the system is evolving and I think it's important to remember that. Men like Benjamin Franklin wanted people to vote because he hoped that slavery would be abolished one day. Most countries have revolutions because their people are starving or they have no money or they're just miserable in general and while those are great reasons to revolt and try to improve things, the American revolution was started because of taxes. It's absurd when you think about it and it's kind of ironic these days, but it was the ultimate anti-imperial revolution. We've lost our idealistic, anti-imperialist roots because of the people. I think that sucks as much as the next leftist and as much as the next truly informed American, but I accept it. I don't accept it with a smile on my face and it certainly doesn't make me want to get up and dance, but everything that our government does, they do because they know a) the people will accept it, or B) they know the people won't care too much to find out what's really happening. So I say, I'm a true patriot because I care enough about my country and the people in it to want to make the future better and because I vote. Because I don't say, "My ideas are the ultimate truth," but I say, "This is what I'm thinking now and I'd like to tell my fellow citizens about them." As we all know, many people have shifted as they've grown older or gone through different experiences. I'm sure many people on the right will disagree with me on this and I'm sure many people on the left will as well, and I definitely have complaints and grudges about the newsmedia and government, but I've already complained and said everything I have to say in different forums and I doubt my grudges aren't much different from the next member's. So I say I'm a patriot because while I'm disgusted by what many of my fellow citizens have done in the name of my country, I'm proud to have a system where it's my fellow citizens and not some dictator who call the shots. While my fellow Americans' apathy pisses me off, I'm glad that they showed their true colors by choosing to be apathetic instead of having all of the information that they need being restricted by the government. (Of course, the government restricts a lot of information, but that could be changed if there was enough public support for that.) So am I 100% proud to be an American? No--of course not! But our system does not demand that, and I've been working to change our system to one that I would be 100% proud of. So I've done my patriotic duty by helping my fellow citizens of America whose lives threatened on September 11 and I've done my duty as a citizen of this planet by participating in food and clothing drives when various dictators have gone around killing people or natural disasters have struck. I know I'm not Miss Model Citizen and that's not something that worries me one bit, but those flag-waving, once-a-year-Democrats/Republicans have got nothing on me when it comes to participating in the democratic process and making the world a better place. I've demanded that car companies stick to EPA guidelines, I've demanded that Bush release Reagan papers that the FOIA tells him he must . . . I'm more of a patriot that our anti-democracy President.

[MindCrime]

The USSR chose to enter the arms race? America initiated the stockpiling of weapons, the USSR had to play catch-up or be wiped out by western Imperialism. Their economy eventually collapsed becasue it hadnt had the time to stableize itself that Americas had (almost 200 years). Even so, America has a Trillion dollar debt on its back. Red China's also getting millions of american dollars every year. Which economy is in a better state would you say? To bad you didnt step on their neck when they were young too...

[Imperial Power]

La resistance, why is it you think I hate all Muslims?

Death, more people = more tax revenue

Oh do we have different scale when comparing poverty levels now Red?

[RedRevolutionary87]

no the un rates poverty on how much the citezens make compared to how much goods cost and weather people are usualy unemployed, its all the same scale

[Xvall]

A 'Melting Pot' of cultures? I've been wondering where the government keeps that enormous furnace for killing Immigrants!

No, but really, That was my second grade teachers excuse of how all the millions of native americans magically dissapeared into thin air. Native americans were the majority of this countries populations. If they just 'melted in', that would mean that everyone in the country would be about, oh, 25% native american!

You stole California from mexico, and bribed them so that they would not attempt to retaliate against the United States. There has not been a single problem the o****ry could solve without using some sort of warfare! Even for Drugs! Free Speech? Yeah.. Right...

Cultural Tolerance?

Try explaining that to an immigrant in New York city, try the one who got shot at a gas station. Or go down to texas, and try explaining that the the people shooting bullets at Mosques!

It's a government scam, and now because of what happened, anyone who even looks arabic can not express 'un-american' ideas without being called a terrorist.

- Drake Dracoli

[Imperial Power]

What happened to the Native Americans is terrible but it's not my fault. We are living in the future now. No matter what country your in has its very small percentage of racist killings so you can't blame the United States for that. Drake thats quite a conspiracy theory you have going. I'm sure it could be combined with Peace's theory of the capitalist movement to restore the third reich.

[peaccenicked]

IP
I merely quoted hitler
and named one of his supporters.

[CimSaint]

Wait a minute IP.... You said that what happened to the Native Americans is terrible, but it was not your fault. Would you agree that it was other capitalists fault? I would think you would have to. Isn't it the same situation that communists are in in regards to Stalin? It wasn't our fault, but the fault of some maniac who was aligned with our ideology. So either you're an ass who resorts to name calling and guilt tripping, or a blatant hypocrite.... which is it?

[Forever capitalism]

I will deny you, i stated that so called communists in this forum support a system that gives birth to totalitarian regimes in practice. Refute that with facts from the last 100 years that suggest otherwise. True communism and still exist today.

[MindCrime]

So by IPs logic, we could have just let the Nazis wipe out every Jew in Europe. A century later and it wouldnt have mattered. Why did we have to waste all that time going to war with them? Oh yea, it was good for our economy, gotta make a buck!

Genocide can never be made right by time. No matter how long you wait, the victems of hatred will never rise again.