How bad is rascism every where?

[James]

On thursday our school underwent yet more racist acts. Some asian students from a catholic school up the road came down to talk to some friends at my school.
At some point some dicks in my year (11, last year of high school) shouted some shit like "theres no black in the union jack, so f**k off" and other coments. From what i gathered the asian guys started throwing bricks at these dicks (yey, good for them), so as you can imagine this sparked off alot of fighting. This was all at lunch time, so the whole school found out about the situation, and nearly the whole school ran down the corridors to go do some "paki bashing" as they call it. Eventually the police arrived and the situation calmed its self.

In the last lesson i was trying to find out what exactly had happened, this guy i asked said something along the lines of "argh, f**king afghans, we want em out" I told him of course what i thought of him and he resorted to calling me names like "goff". He doesn't understand there is no point to rascism, he told me he "f**king hated all pakis and afghans" then i told him "yeah, they're like short people, can't stand em" (hes quite small you see). i think i made ,my point to him. Rascists are such stupid creatures who can't see past their own noses.

How bad is rascism on local levels every where else? i'd like to see your replys

[Nateddi]

Capitalism breeds racism.

Race struggle in a capitalist society is like a small hungry dog and a large hungry dog fighting over a slab of meat.

[PunkRawker677]

Its pretty bad in south florida. Down my street, about 2 minute walk from my house, an islamic primary school was vandilized and they painted "fu*k you" all over the walls in red paint.. this is a school for kinda 10 and under. what are these people trying to accomplish? i doubt any 10 year olds, much less 5 year olds where involved in 9-11... its getting ridiculous, and yes, racists have placed them selves at the lowest level of humanity possible. Im starting to consider removing them from humanity all together...

Punk-

[Moskitto]

"theres no black in the union jack, so f**k off"

The union jack's prodominantly blue, So mainly blue people should live in the UK right?

And should Native Americans live in the UK? I mean, there's red in the union Jack.

There's not much Racism where I live. Well not on the scale you get wher you live. The only racism that happens is people spread myths about how immigrants steal everyone's money and occasionally go around beating up gypsies.

[HardcoreCommie]

Quote: from Nateddi on 5:51 pm on Feb. 8, 2002
Capitalism breeds racism.

Race struggle in a capitalist society is like a small hungry dog and a large hungry dog fighting over a slab of meat.




That's like saying cancer is endemic to capitalist society. Things like racism and cancer occur irregardless of economic systems. Even your analogy sucks nutz, it's so damn general and can be applied to anything.

[James]

Theres no dickheads on the union jack either, but we let them stay,
i would have said something like that if i'd been there

the most worrying thing bout the whole thing was that the whole school ran to get involved. I saw every idiot in our school (bout 2 thirds) running to go do this "paki bashing" lark.
When i was trying to find out what was happening i heard this girl in the year below me say that she hates that lot (the asians). I told her she was a fucking rascist and i thought she were sick. She was a bit ashamed i think (well she went red).
Its the view on others here though. If your different, your a freak and people will look down on you.

[I Will Deny You]

I teach at a school where almost all the kids are black, and everyone seems to get along just fine. The white kids are accepted and are respectful, and the black kids don't care about race. :)

[James]

Its so simple, all we have to do here (manchester) is stop the mental segregation. Kids are raised here to hate asians and immagrants. There is no reason behind it.
Thanks "I Will Deny You", that was reasuring

[Capitalist]

Being Racist is very bad for business.

Again - propaganda used to create fear and hatred to induce ignorant people into thinking that Capitalism is evil.

How does Capitalism promote Racism?

Somebody - Please Explain HOW THIS IS TRUE.

[El Brujo]

Capitalism causes racism because the people of European decent today have the unfair advantage of their ancestors mooching off the lands that they conquered with their empires. Now, because of that, whites tend to be rich and people of most other races tend to be poor, causing racial stereotypes as well as the competition between races among the lower classes which is spewed by the rich. And if a race of people becomes inherently rich, the uneducated people relate the problems of society to race rather than the fucked-up competitive system (hence Nazi Germany). Thats why were here, to educate the poor to not be racists and discover the true reason that they are in fucked up conditions, capitalism.

[Capitalist]

Fidel Castro is the perfect example of a white landowner descendent.

Present-Day-Cuba might as well have a sign on the doors of power saying “Whites only.”

Currently, Cuba’s blacks and mulattos make up more than 60 percent of the island’s population but hold less than 20 percent of the leadership positions in government. By one estimate, less than 10 percent of the top leadership in the Politburo is nonwhite.

The overwhelming number of officials working at the highest levels of the Cuban government and military are white.

Check Out the Websites -
http://www.cubapolidata.com/gpc/gpc.html
http://www.cubapolidata.com/gpc/gpc_politi...ical_power.html (http://www.cubapolidata.com/gpc/gpc_political_power.html)
http://www.cubapolidata.com/gpc/gpc_counci...l_of_state.html (http://www.cubapolidata.com/gpc/gpc_council_of_state.html)

Not Too Many Black Faces in this list of Current Cuban Leaders?

And let me remind everyone that Batista, former Cuban dictator, was a MULATTO - So I don't want any bullshit about how Batista promoted racism more than Fidel.

[vox]

"Being Racist is very bad for business."

Is it? Then why were so many US businesses heavily involved in South Africa?

Indeed, it was Castro who spoke out against Apartheid long before US citizens even knew who Mandela was.

Too, Castro has loudly proclaimed Cuba to be an Afro-Carribean nation.

Is the US Senate 51% female? After all, that's the population breakdown.

vox

[GuerillaTactics]

The Capi is right about racism being everywhere..... you can not generalise like that saying that capitalism breeds racism......... ignorance breeds racism

[libereco]

I know plenty anti-racist Capitalists. I'd say it's the majority even...

on the other hand I don't know any racist Socialists.


Over here there are problems with racism, as everywhere else i believe. Racism isn't as accepted as in many places though i'd say, because of this countries history.

I've experienced a lot of racism personally. My father was very active (actually he was the representative or whatever) in the council of foreignerns in my hometown....they support the interests of foreigners obviously, and try to give them some political power.

Anyway, during a period of extreme racism in germany we had lots of threatening mail, and also phonecalls (i was very little back then). It never got worse then that for me personally though...

I experience racism every day in the behaviour of people, their stupid jokes, the way they look at people.

It's everywhere, just like sexism and homophobia are....

[vox]

GT,

Isn't it just a bit odd, however, that racism, in a capitalist society, takes the form of economic repression?

Think of the Social Relations of capitalism for a spell.

vox

[GuerillaTactics]

yes to some degree that is true.......but really the only color that matters is green in a capitalist society nowadays......for the most part......... you have to take into account that there are other issues that play into this also

[redpeekay]

Damn
where do you live james?

[El Brujo]

Quote: from Capitalist on 3:04 pm on Feb. 9, 2002
Fidel Castro is the perfect example of a white landowner descendent.


And your point is? With that you are generalizing that all whites are racists. First of all, you have to be quite a big dumbfuck to think any leftist is a racist. Second of all, you just contradicted yourself because you are saying that communists are racists but then in the "nazis and the republican party" thread, you said that the democrats emphasize too much on fighting racism and that they are in coalition with the communists. I have a simple question for you, do you have a clue what the fuck your talking about or are you just here to annoy people and foment useless, waste-of-time, discussions.

[El Brujo]

By the way, MANY of Cubas millitary and millitary leaders are black.

[Sasafrás]

I live in the southern United States and, contrary to popular belief, racism here is not very bad. True, there is a lot of racism, but it is not as bad as many people would suspect. After September 11, we didn't have very many problems here in Memphis even though there is a pretty significant amount of Arab-Americans here in my city who (I'm not trying to be stereotypical at all) typically own the corner stores, Village Mart Stores, Dollar Mania Stores, Z Markets, etc. In my entire school, there is only one Arab student (her name is Abeer) and she really didn't get hassled much after the tragedy. On the actual day of it while we were watching the news, a couple people were making remarks about "bombing Palestine" (Abeer is Palestinian) but that's all. After that, I don't think anyone really even cared.
However, there are some black-white issues here and A LOT of issues about the Mexican and other Hispanic population here and, as a hispanophile, I'm really bothered by it. People (mostly Blacks, but Whites as well) believe that "those Mexicans" are trying to take "our" jobs but I figure when you're lazy and don't work hard enough (like many of the whites and blacks alike here in Memphis), someone needs to take your job. There are large amounts of "rednecks" (I swear, they even call themselves that) and White supremacists here (Ku Klux Klan & Neo-Confederates for the most part) and they, unfortunately, have a pretty significant influence here. There is a statue of founder of the Klan (Nathan Bedford Forrest, I think is his name) in a downtown park. A couple years ago on Martin Luther King, Jr. Day here in Memphis, the Ku Klux Klan was actually allowed to hold a march, demonstration, and speeches in which they used the word "nigger" numerous times. I believe in freedom of speech, but I really don't think that was appropriate.
Interracial dating and marriage still cause quite a stir down here and it's very common to see people staring at interracial couples and some people even go far enough as to make negative comments. People still hold that "stay with your own race!" idea.
Don't get me wrong though, Memphis is definitely not as bad as other southern places like many in Arkansas, Louisiana, deep Mississippi, and deep Alabama. Once I went to New Orleans, Louisiana and I was in a store and the owner (an Asian woman) kept following me around. I don't want to automatically assume that was racism, but you can never really tell. Being a person of color in southern Mississippi or Alabama can really be scary and many parts of Arkansas are simply ridiculous. There's no other way of putting it.

And, Capitalist, how many Blacks, Asian-Americans, Native Americans, Arab-Americans and Hispanics actually hold top leadership positions in the United States of America? Don't even bring up Bush's Cabinet. We've never even had a female President, much less one of color and I don't see it in the future either.

[James]

I live in the manchester area (north/west UK)

[pogo]

Well, around here it seems to be the latest fad to be a little neo nazi. I swear, two years ago you never saw these people, but somehow it got bad. I myself have had the shit beat out of me in a dark ally by a bunch of these nazi bastard for wearing a crossed out swastica patch. I mean, its worse in other cities, but there isactually alot of street violence between the nazis and the anti-racists and punk rockers.

[El Brujo]

Id say the only good thing about where I live is that there is barely any racism. I know a few racists but all of them have gotten a well deserved ass-kicking. You would actually have to be pretty fucking stupid to be a racist in my school because about 50% of the students are oriental, about 15% are middle-eastern, about 3% are Indian and about 5% are other races apart from white, there are also many jews, russians, and a few hispanics (myself included). So probably about 10% of the school are white protestant males.

[CPK]

racism will exist as long as we are different.

[Moskitto]

One of my ancestors cousins owned a plantation in the Carribean. However when he died he didn't know who to leave his money to so he left it all to queen Victoria. Now the thing is, this was probably the equivalent of over a billion today.


Being Racist is very bad for business.

Again - propaganda used to create fear and hatred to induce ignorant people into thinking that Capitalism is evil.

How does Capitalism promote Racism?

Somebody - Please Explain HOW THIS IS TRUE.

Yep, that's true, The "White Mans Bible" (A stupid publication by the WCOTC which should really be banned) calls on white people to end all business deals with black people, which doesn't sound really like a capitalist idea.

[I Will Deny You]

Quote: from CPK on 3:54 pm on Feb. 11, 2002
racism will exist as long as we are different.Well then why don't we stop being different? Date outside your race, have children "of ambiguous ethnicity"! Tell them to go out with someone different and have children who are even bigger "mutts"! We oughta have so many biracial children, the concept of race will not exist anymore.

Well, that's just what I think.

[Sasafrás]

Great idea, Lindsay.. Then they'll have to make the United States Census forms even more complicated than they already are..

El Brujo, I don't mean to disrespect and I KNOW with my entire heart that you aren't a racist, but I don't think you should use the word "Oriental." It seems to be "politically correct" :) but it actually offends a lot of Asian people. Asians usually see the word "oriental" as a word to describe rugs or food; I've actually heard them say that (on TV & in real life).

Just like I don't feel too comfortable with "Negroid" even though it's the "official" term. :( God, I hate that..

[libereco]

there are many offensive words that are not offensive, because of their meaning, but because of the historical and social attributes tied to them...

Negro actually just means black...but it was and still is used to offend people.

[Sasafrás]

Actually, I'm not too offended by Negro.. it's Negroid that makes me cringe. Maybe the -id offends me, I don't know. :) Of course, I hate the n-word though.
But, true Libereco..

[James]

I'm offended by your avatar, it makes me all excited