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mykittyhasaboner
17th February 2008, 02:32
ive been notcing that recent claims have mentioned that China is predicted to become the most economically advanced nation in the world. and i was just wondering since china poses as communists but are in fact the opposite, what kind of effects is this is going to have?

jake williams
17th February 2008, 02:43
It's kind of hard to predict. It's worth mentioning that while both China and the USSR make/made claims of being communist, the former was and is mostly nationalistic and even isolationist, whereas the latter actively engaged in supporting international "communist" movements, to whatever ends it may have been.

RNK
17th February 2008, 04:35
^^ Very true. Officially, the Chinese communist party claims that it is infact remaining loyal to the end result of a classless, stateless society and that the current phase of economic growth, market reforms and capitalist underpinnings is simply a matter of industrializing the country in order to create an economic situation in which socialism and the transition to communism will be possible, at which time it will dissolve the government and so on and so forth. however, this claim is hard to take, considering the unrelentless drive towards capital, and the unforgiving cutbacks to the working class that the current government has undertaken since the death of Mao. Generally its agreed by most (but not all) that China has infact abandoned socialism and communist theory and is just using it as a guise for maintaining state control. They have not, to my knowledge, acted progressive in any way since the 1970s; the few instances where they have loosened their isolationist stance has been for rather imperialist undertakings, such as support for various right-wing movements around the world and corporate moves particularly into Africa and the Middle East.

At best, their advancement will prove to be a progressive move overall, as there is still some class consciousness left in Chinese workers (arguably more than in workers in imperialist countries) and China, in the future, may swing back to the left. At worst, their advancement will debase legitimate revolutionaries throughout the world as they usurp the communist mantle and further drag socialism through the mud of popular opinion.

The New Left
17th February 2008, 22:07
If what China claims is true, then I'm all for it. I mean, at least we can hope they over throw the U.S. as the economic giant and start to make way towards socialism and gaining spheres of influence without making war, or limiting war.

Dros
18th February 2008, 03:02
If what China claims is true, then I'm all for it. I mean, at least we can hope they over throw the U.S. as the economic giant and start to make way towards socialism and gaining spheres of influence without making war, or limiting war.

Don't dillude yourself. China is capitalist. They have no intention of creating a Communist society and haven't since the seventies.