BLIND EYES

[Capitalist]

I'm tired of hearing these European-American Haters-Liberal-Communistic-Humanatarian-Red Cross Bullshitters cry over how badly the USA is treating Al Queda prisoner at Guantamano Bay, yet turn a blind eye to the Real Prisoners living in Cuba.

Wake the Fuck Up!

Fidel Castro Prisons make the USA detainment center look like fucking Disney World.

Amnesty International = Bullshit Liberal International

Let us expend every effort to protect terroristic killers - yet totally IGNORE the rights of innocent hard working people entrapt in communistic/dictatorship systems.

[peaccenicked]

American brutality is alright
because cuban brutality is worse.
Did not your mother tell you that two wrongs dont make a right.
Its the worst excuse in the world,
typical of your sick capitalist morals.

[James]

what do you expect from a bunch of ameri****s? remember they are taking the moral high ground! all this is ameri****s taking out their frustration on defensless people (they r defensless in the sense they r blinded with gogles etc.). Its typical, America pretends to be soooooo supreme, but in fact are no better than a simple group of bullies. And i qoute from system of a down, "pushing little children, with the fully automatics, they like to push the weak around"

bastards

[Supermodel]

Oh and your british prisons are so pleasant.....

[James]

u think i'm proud to be british??? anyway, at least we don't keep our prisoners in cages.
The government has decided on weekend prison, for none violent criminals, as u may have guesed, our prisones ar a tad bit over filled

[Moskitto]

Amnesty International brought international pressure to release one of your precious political prisoners from you mortal enemy Cuba. Don't complain that they speak bullshit.

And annother thing, Anmesty international are non-political, you might notice that there are right wing members, like my brother, and left wing members like RedCeltic involved in it. As well as releasing prisoners from Cuba they have also released communist party activists from Syria recently.

And I agree with James, Weekend prisons for non-dangerous offenders are a good idea. then they could work and be rehabilitated to be useful members of society.

[Capitalist]

Most Amnesty International members (not all-but most) have forgotten what the hell they are fighting for.

They will expend all their resources to prevent a serial killer like Ted Bundy from going to the electric chair, but when it comes to real innocent people/heroes being condemed to death for their freedom of speech against the higher regimes - they tend to turn a blind eye.

This detainment of Al-Queda prisoners by the USA is a prime example of stupid people defending the rights of terrorists and oppressors. The same oppressors that did not care one bit when it came to killing innocent Afgahnis (women, children, and men) for crimes as simple as not wearing a face mask or shaving your beard.

I believe the rights of all should be protected, but why spend so much time defending people that really do not deserve our defense - when so many innocent others are suffering under the terrorism of dictators like Sadamm Hussein, Fidel Castro, Bin Laden, etc.

For years people living on the entrapped island of Cuba have been ignored. Human Rights in China have been ignored. Real decent people are being ignored so that we can instead defend the rights of killers, terrorists, and dictators.

[Cobber]

Capitalist,

Why has the American Al-Queda soldier been seperated from his brethren and being prisoned/tried differently?

[reagan lives]

Because he's an American citizen who committed American crimes.

You probably read that to mean "He's an American, so he deserves special treatment." No, what I'm saying is that since we have the legal apparatus to try him, we will. We cannot try all the other prisoners, as they are not citizens of a nation that has anything resembling a working legal system.

[Supermodel]

Let's continue the issue...why of all the prisoners taken have 150 or so been taken to Guantanamo and one to Alexandria? What about all the other prisoners? Are they dead? Still on warships?

I think the answer is that the guys at camp x ray have special information or are strategically relevant (so-and-so's son, etc). MAybe the US is getting ready for a hostage swap.

Who the heck knows, I just wish my tax dollars were not being spent on camping in the Caribbean.

[Moskitto]

when so many innocent others are suffering under the terrorism of dictators like Sadamm Hussein, Fidel Castro, Bin Laden, etc.

Why not go to their website? they have campaigns to improve human rights in Cuba and Iraq. As well as the Many other Dictatorships and human rights abuses around the world. Bin Laden isn't a dictator anyway, he's a terrorist. Was David Copeland a dictator too?

here's news of human rights abuses in Cuba http://web.amnesty.org/ai.nsf/countries/cu...nt=30&Expandall (http://web.amnesty.org/ai.nsf/countries/cuba?OpenView&Start=1&Count=30&Expandall)

here's news of human rights abuses in Iraq http://web.amnesty.org/ai.nsf/countries/ir...nt=30&Expandall (http://web.amnesty.org/ai.nsf/countries/iraq?OpenView&Start=1&Count=30&Expandall)

here's human rights abuses in the UK http://web.amnesty.org/ai.nsf/countries/uk...nt=30&Expandall (http://web.amnesty.org/ai.nsf/countries/uk?OpenView&Start=1&Count=30&Expandall)

here's human rights abuses in America http://web.amnesty.org/ai.nsf/countries/us...nt=30&Expandall (http://web.amnesty.org/ai.nsf/countries/usa?OpenView&Start=1&Count=30&Expandall)

[Cobber]

RL,

Thank you for your input - but what of the Australian POW - should he be allowed to be tried under the Australian judicial system and our laws. I am pretty sure that there is an extradition agreement b/t the US and Oz.

[vox]

Capitalist wrote:

"This detainment of Al-Queda prisoners by the USA is a prime example of stupid people defending the rights of terrorists and oppressors."

Hmmm, you might want to read that back to yourself.

As for Amnesty International, they speak out against human rights abuses all over the world. If you don't accept this, I urge you to go to their website: http://www.amnesty.org/

You will find that they are also speaking out against Rwanda, Egypt, Israel, Jordan, Russia and anywhere else human rights are being violated by the State, or with tacit State approval.

It's not surprising, of course, that a capitalist sympathizer can't get the facts right. It's common.

vox

[Moskitto]

America and Thatcher wanted Britain to send Pinochet back to Chile. Now if that isn't defending the rights of oppressors then I don't know what is.

[Capitalist]

Perhaps I am picking too harshly at Amnesty International and the Red Cross. They are overall a good group of human rights advocates. Perhaps I am wrong in criticizing these groups.

What I find so hypocritical or perhaps inefficient is Amnesty spending so much of it's resources on evil people (which I agree - deserve rights to free trials and life in prison versus easy death by electric chair). Yet these same groups spend less of their resources on real life victims. So many decent people are ignored by liberal/"Human Rights" groups.

Decent people that, in my opinion, should be put first before evil idiot terrorists or serial killers.

So I state again:

I find it very hypocritical to see the Communistic/Human Rights Advocate outcry at USA's treatment of Taliban detainees (mostly murderers and terrorists) when decent Cubans that have been confined in Castro's jails sentenced to 20 years or more for crimes as simple as their will to express their freedom of speech, or right to assembly, right to bear arms, or right to protest Castro's Communistic Dictatorship/Government.

It is simply turning a blind eye to the real decent victims.

However I will admit I am wrong in saying that Amnesty International does not care about human rights in communist/totalarian countries. However, I can not but feel they do not do enough - because nobody (including the free liberal press) cares about victims of these totalarian regimes.

[Moskitto]

I believe British officials went to visit the prisoners (there's a couple of Brits over there) and recieved no complaints from any of the prisoners.

[vox]

Capitalist,

I'll say it once again: check out some of these organizations before you cast aspersions. You seem to be upset about the US news media reporting that there are human rights abuses taking place. What you call the "liberal" media I call the conservative, corporate media, and I'll beat you in that argument.

Fact is, you're upset because this is the first you've heard about abuses being carried out by the USA. Rather than blaming the villians, you villify those who talk about it.

Look, the history of the USA is written in blood. I can give you a list of 20th century atrocities if you like, and they are all documented. I don't have to make this stuff up, Capitalist. It's all there, waiting to be discovered over and over again.

You can do a web search, too. Try one for Pinochet, or try Nicaragua in the Eighties.

There are crimes all over the place. If you don't trust Tom Brokaw or Peter Jennings, find it out for yourself. You've probably the largest collection of knowledge ever assembled at your fingertips.

Use it.

vox

[Moskitto]

My history teacher went to university in America and trained to be a history teacher in America. However he may not teach history in many places in America because you have to be a native born American to teach history in many states in America. He says the culture is completely different, History is taken far less seriously over here but he says over there it's sort of indoctrinated into people what the American history is. And hell he is far from an anti-capitalist, he even said that protesting against capitalism is really protesting against freedom. But the things he says about America are quite interesting like their gun culture (he used to own a sports shop which sold guns) and high velocity rifles (banned in Canada because people mysteriously died in forrests.)

[ILLNESS]

Why does every capitalist forget about the reasons why El-Queda really exists. They exist because the capitalist governments suppressed the arab countries in the past because of the fear of communism and today because of the almighty oil. They even supported dicators and the Israelian wars with high amounts of money and refused to use their influence to stop the brutality between Israel and the Arab countries because they want cheap oil and keeping other coutries out of this area.

This is typical for capitalist, they talk every time about civil rights and "evil" countries but they support them as long as it is for their purpose or doesn't interfere with their interests but as soon as it concerns them directly they cry as loud as they can and forget about the past.

So the only solution for the suppressed people is to fight against their supressors with terroristic actions because they have neither the economic nor the military strenght to compete with the United States.

If this sounds silly to you then consider what you would do when some dictator would overthrow the goverment of the allmighty and god-blessed United States and build a new one supported with his money.

[Moskitto]

The US armed Bin Laden to fight the Russians. See self interest=WTC attacks.

[tyronelad]

In relation to the prisoners, sure most of them may hate the USA, but surely the US should be able to 'rise above' the petty tit for tat thinking. Sure the prisoners are in "humane conditions", but are still being degraded as humans

[Capitalist]

I will withdraw my unfair statement about the Red Cross and Amnesty Inernational being unsympathetic to Cuba's and China's Terrible Human Rights Record.

I have never denied USA's or Capitalism's crimes against Native Americans, African Slavery, or support of corrupt democracies abroad (including Batista).

But again my point still proves valid.

The USA is CURRENTLY protecting the rights of captured Taliban & Al-Queda terrorists at Guantamano Bay. There have been no human rights denied to these detainees.

Yet why the public outcry for such horrible terrorist detainees? - When decent Cubans and Chinese have had their rights denied for years upon years by the communist dictatorships that oppress them?

Nobody has answered this question yet.

Why do are you compassionate commies get so outraged at USA treatment of Al-Queda Prisoners, yet totally ignore Castro's treatmnet of Cuban Prisoners - most who are guilty of their freedom to oppose Fidel's government thru peaceful means?

[peaccenicked]

bush has backed down on the geneva convention.
It applies.
but still uUS killing innocents elsewhere.
http://www.antiwar.com/orig/mcmanus1.html

[Nateddi]

I don't quite see why treating them according to the convension will harm america.

[Megan]

Ha, just some words on the
comment of Supermodel.
I agree,
Your comment about spending your tax
on camping on the Carribean is great.
(I am not joking). And I am afraid our
taxes (worldwide) are spent for
even worse things. We all have to pay
for the so called cruisade against
terrorism. This means a lot of money
for a small group of people and
saving their interests (like oil pipelines
in Afghanistan or oil in general in
Iraq.etc...). Okay, we all need fuel,
which means oil. But we average people
have to pay for "our" oil. A small group
of people earns money with the oil
OF and FOR other people. And we
all have to pay for it !

[pce]

i don't get what the big deal is either, capitalist. frankly, i don't care about those people.