Juche Online Library

[Dimentio]

I am no supporter of Juche theory, but it could be interesting to read the works of the two Kims, and realise what traps in socialism might have led to the total corruption of the DPRK.

Link. (http://www.korea-dpr.com/libindex.htm)

[Lenin II]

Even though Kim Il-Sung is the better leader, Kim Jong-Il is the better writer, I must say. Though his cartoon photo made to look like his father's is hideous.

What are those three instruments on the flag of the Korean Workers' Party? A hammer, a small sickle and what looks like a candle?

[BobKKKindle$]

What are those three instruments on the flag of the Korean Workers' Party? A hammer, a small sickle and what looks like a candle?A brush, to symbolize the role of artists and intellectuals.

Despite North Korea's problems, I admire Kim-il-sung in his capacity as a guerrilla fighter against the Japanese occupation, and I genuinely believe he did his best to improve the lives of the Korean people in the postwar epoch, despite the cult of personality he cultivated and the over-emphasis on military development. North Korea is under attack; socialists should stand by the DPRK's right to develop nuclear weapons in order to repel the danger of imperialism. North Korea is a workers state suffering from severe bureaucratic deformation, but retains positive features, such as a full employment rate and guaranteed education for all citizens.

[Xiao Banfa]

What are those three instruments on the flag of the Korean Workers' Party? A hammer, a small sickle and what looks like a candle?


I thought you guys were supposed to be authorities on the DPRK.

[UndergroundConnexion]

It's a pen to symbolyse the working intellectual

[Lenin II]

Kim Il Sung founded the Korean Worker's Party, the ruling political organization of the nation. The Party flag is red bearing the party emblem consisting of three crossed instruments--a hammer for the workers, a hoe for the peasants and a brush for the intellectuals.
David Martucci, 28 September 1999

There you go. As a side not, so far my favorite essay is "Respecting the Forerunners of the Revolution is a Noble Moral Obligation of Revolutionaries," :laugh: by Kim Jong-Il.

[Nothing Human Is Alien]

Despite North Korea's problems, I admire Kim-il-sung in his capacity as a guerrilla fighter against the Japanese occupation, and I genuinely believe he did his best to improve the lives of the Korean people in the postwar epoch, despite the cult of personality he cultivated and the over-emphasis on military development. North Korea is under attack; socialists should stand by the DPRK's right to develop nuclear weapons in order to repel the danger of imperialism. North Korea is a workers state suffering from severe bureaucratic deformation, but retains positive features, such as a full employment rate and guaranteed education for all citizens.

Of course you're right here, but unfortunately waves of "leftists" have collapsed in the face of the bitter anti-communist onslaught that has been waged against the DPRK since its founding.

[Edelweiss]

Despite North Korea's problems, I admire Kim-il-sung in his capacity as a guerrilla fighter against the Japanese occupation

Most of that is fabricated or idealized by DPRK propaganda.

[Nothing Human Is Alien]

Yes, everything the imperialists and their moouth pieces on CNN and the BBC say is true, but anything that has ever come out of DPRK, or which paints anything having to do with DPRK in a positive light, is pure "propaganda". :rolleyes:

Propaganda doesn't mean "lies" btw, even though its popular to use it that way, especially in the imperialist countries. Propaganda is just a means of influencing people.

[chimx]

Despite North Korea's problems, I admire Kim-il-sung in his capacity as a guerrilla fighter against the Japanese occupation

Kim did not have a significant impact on Japanese imperialism and did not win any significant battles. When Russia finally invaded Korea and defeated Japan, Kim did not play an active role, arriving too late due to Japan's rather rapid defeat. While the DPRK may fabricate Kim's role, the opening of Soviet archives details the truth of his role.

That isn't to say he wasn't fiercely opposed to Japanese imperialism. He was active in the fight against Japan. The exaggerations of Kim's anti-Japanese activities is probably more of a testament to the Korean communist movement's long-held value of nationalism and patriotism.


and I genuinely believe he did his best to improve the lives of the Korean people in the postwar epoch

He was a primary instigator of factionalism in Korea, another long-held tradition of Korean communism. Although he no doubt did so under the belief that it was in the best interest of Koreans.

[temp918273]

A brush, to symbolize the role of artists and intellectuals.

Despite North Korea's problems, I admire Kim-il-sung in his capacity as a guerrilla fighter against the Japanese occupation, and I genuinely believe he did his best to improve the lives of the Korean people in the postwar epoch, despite the cult of personality he cultivated and the over-emphasis on military development. North Korea is under attack; socialists should stand by the DPRK's right to develop nuclear weapons in order to repel the danger of imperialism. North Korea is a workers state suffering from severe bureaucratic deformation, but retains positive features, such as a full employment rate and guaranteed education for all citizens.

Come on now. Do you honestly believe that North Korea even has the infrastructure or capital to allow a meaningful full employment rate or education? They rely on donations to feed their own people! I acknowledge that the conditions within North Korea are exaggerated by imperialist propaganda, but to call it a worker's state is really pushing it.

[Sankofa]

Regardless of your personal opinions of the DPRK, this website is invaluable.

Has anyone ever seen Juche literature on sale in the West? I certainly have not.

I'd personally like to have the ability to make my own carefully researched critique on North Korea, instead of relying on Fox News and the like.

[UndergroundConnexion]

i think there ar ebetter websites then this one... for exampe i just found kim il sung autobio recently.... there are several good books on tihs topic aswell.

[chimx]

I'd personally like to have the ability to make my own carefully researched critique on North Korea


for exampe i just found kim il sung autobio recently

Why would you want to take your research from a country that doesn't even have a free press?

[Sankofa]

It's not a matter of whether or not North Korea has free press or not;

I would like to read Juche theory for myself instead of relying on the bourgeoisie.

[UndergroundConnexion]

Reading the Juche things yourself is not bad for researhe purposes of course and then you could make your own mind on it. However histroical sources about Il SUng's lvie for example , you understand, would be not very reliable if published by the DPRK foreign language press.

[Lenin II]

Why would you want to take your research from a country that doesn't even have a free press?

By this logic, we cannot trust any research made anywhere in the world right now, since they are mostly capitalist states with bourgeoisie media. :laugh:

[chimx]

Uhh, no. bourgeois states have a free press. It is a pretty core value of liberalism.

[Lenin II]

Uhh, no. bourgeois states have a free press. It is a pretty core value of liberalism.
I sure hope you are being sarcastic. On a side note, how can a person be a Trotskyist and a left-communist?

[chimx]

Of course I'm not being sarcastic.

I don't know how a person can be a Trot and a left-communist, but for me, it is quite easy being neither.

[Die Neue Zeit]

^^^ Lenin II, just because someone's a member of two or more user groups doesn't mean he/she subscribes to the views of said user groups. Consider drosera99, Comrade Nadezhda, and especially Infaam - all "Hoxhaists" in your user group. :)

[Sankofa]

If you don't align your views with a certain user group...what's the point of being in the group in the first place?

[chimx]

It's nice to be able to discuss topics with comrades from within a certain political paradigm. There isn't the never ending debate over the legitimacy of this or that idea, but how our ideas work. It is quite refreshing. I also join groups that I identify with or am sympathetic to. To certain degrees, I take inspiration from left communists, trots, and anarchists. Ultimately I politically identify with Marxism, but squabbling over the ideological nuances seems counter productive. I'm interested in class struggle, and what works for workers -- not what has been tried in the past.

[Lenin II]

^^^ Lenin II, just because someone's a member of two or more user groups doesn't mean he/she subscribes to the views of said user groups. Consider drosera99, Comrade Nadezhda, and especially Infaam - all "Hoxhaists" in your user group. :)
I realize that a person should not, nay, must not be married to any one particular group since that liquidates the class struggle. However, let me elaborate as to where my point was coming from.

It may at first seem like a contradiction to be a Hoxhaist and a Maoist, but there are different kinds of Maoists. There are the kind that uphold Hoxha but say he went too far in his criticisms, and here are third-world type Maoists. The former would be allowed into the Hoxhaist group. But it seems to me as if being a left totally excludes upholding the Bolsheviks at all, including Trotsky.

Though I agree that just being in this or that group is foolish and chauvenist.

[Dros]

Just to clarify, I am not a Hoxhaist. I am a Maoist. I am a member of the Hoxhaist user group because we are rather close ideologically and I appreciate the discussion that goes on there and I appreciate the work of my Hoxhaist Comrades.

[Die Neue Zeit]

I realize that a person should not, nay, must not be married to any one particular group since that liquidates the class struggle. However, let me elaborate as to where my point was coming from.

It may at first seem like a contradiction to be a Hoxhaist and a Maoist, but there are different kinds of Maoists. There are the kind that uphold Hoxha but say he went too far in his criticisms, and here are third-world type Maoists. The former would be allowed into the Hoxhaist group. But it seems to me as if being a left[-communist] totally excludes upholding the Bolsheviks at all, including Trotsky.

That's a yes and no. The Italian communist left (here I won't use the derogatory term "ultra-left"), in which Bordiga was a key figure, upholds a lot of "Bolshevism." These folks claim that Trotskyism lost its revolutionary character when Trotsky advocated "entryism." RevLeft folks like Marmot subscribe more to the Italian tradition.

It is the ideologically sectarian and infantile German and Dutch ultra-left (like Pannekoek and his followers) and their modern equivalents that reject Bolshevism entirely.

[Sankofa]

Just to clarify, I am not a Hoxhaist. I am a Maoist. I am a member of the Hoxhaist user group because we are rather close ideologically and I appreciate the discussion that goes on there and I appreciate the work of my Hoxhaist Comrades.

That pretty much explains my very reasons for being in the Hoxhaist group.

We are very close in theory, and while I take many an issue on the opinions that Hoxha had towards Mao and China, I really have no problem learning more about Hoxha and showing my solidarity with comrades.

[jacobin1949]

Despite lack of coverage from both leftist and rightist propaganda, the DPRK is slowly evolving along the Deng Xiaoping model. Several Special Economic Zones have been set up along the Yalu to promote market forces. As time goes on hopefully the DPRK will emerge more like China and Vietnam.

Take a look at this study
http://www.keia.org/2-Publications/2-4-Adhoc/AdHoc2003/4YSKim.pdf (http://www.keia.org/2-Publications/2-4-Adhoc/AdHoc2003/4YSKim.pdf).
http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:559D8EOkTKIJ:www.keia.org/2-Publications/2-4-Adhoc/AdHoc2003/4YSKim.pdf+%22special+economic+zones%22+korea&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&client=firefox-a (http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:559D8EOkTKIJ:www.keia.org/2-Publications/2-4-Adhoc/AdHoc2003/4YSKim.pdf+%22special+economic+zones%22+korea&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&client=firefox-a)

[Kurt Crover]

I enjoy reading stuff on North Korea, although in my opinion Kim Il-sung has somebody proper ideas, whereas Kim Jong-il really does know absolutely nothing.

[Prairie Fire]

As time goes on hopefully the DPRK will emerge more like China and Vietnam.



Erm, you want the DPRK to regress to the superficially-"socialist" level of China and Vietnam?

Fucking CP-USA supporters...

[RHIZOMES]

Erm, you want the DPRK to regress to the superficially-"socialist" level of China and Vietnam?

Fucking CP-USA supporters...

Note his custom title.