BNP fuckbags

[Holden Caulfield]

im from a very unethnically mixed town so we don't have many 'foreign' businesses and such but anyhoo

so im heading to my Polish food shop for some bits and bobs and parked right outside the shop is a big fuck off jag with BNP signs up in the windows and on the sides, so i buy my wares and key the fucker as it is day and fairly busy... (i wanted to go back slash the tyres but my GF said this may well make it worse for the Polish dudes)

however i am going to uni in a matter of months would setting up a sort of antifa group there and ruining there little displays and leftlet hand outs in a less childish way be effective in any way at all, i need to vent my fury on these fucks

[rossith]

Keying the car was probably the best thing you could have done, like your GF said, slashing the tyres probably would have made it worse for the polish people. There doesnt seem to be a strong BNP prescence where i live thank fuck, but im also (hopefully) off to uni here in a few months, and the best option we have at opposing the BNP is leafleting and getting the word out, alongside demo-ing their demos, which pisses them off alot

[Aduro]

Haha, I've done the exact same thing, except he called me a 'twatty leftist', I then later found his car, and keyed 'knob' into the side, oh the joy!
But seriously, they are scum, and don't deserve any life on this planet.

[Holden Caulfield]

there isn't really alot of them here, but its growning up to now all i done is key one (rather nice) jag and tell their leafleters to 'go fuck themselves' which was tense considering the size of themdumb fucks and pull down a few of their signs but that was in glasgow anyhoo

im aiming at newcastle area when i leave and i guess there will be more to be done there...

[Atrus]

Theres little to no BNP presence where I like, near Liverpool, but theres a fair few "White Pride" groups, claiming to be Neo-Nazis and National Socialists. I once spoke to one of the guys asking him if he understood National Socialism. He said "Sure, You kick the shit out of black people"
These people are fucking scum.

[Bethan]

There in no BNP or really any Political feeling where I live. I wouldn't of done the same, I probably would of gone back to the shop later to see if everything was okay :P

[Holden Caulfield]

i went past today to get some more crazy Polish imported juice, (i dont know what the fuck it is made of but its nice) and all seemed well not that i asked how they felt or anything but it looked well,

i dont think that the BNP would be dumb enough to attack a shop after having their car out side with the number plate on it and such, although they are pretty dumb so i wudnt have been suprised

[Colonello Buendia]

Glasgow has problems but one good thing is that we(the left) have taken complete control of the town center, there are Anarchists, socialists,communists and various pro-Palestine and Greenpeace activists. all of which are anti BNP so if one of the BNP ****s tried anything he would be crushed

[spartan]

Glasgow has problems but one good thing is that we(the left) have taken complete control of the town center, there are Anarchists, socialists,communists and various pro-Palestine and Greenpeace activists. all of which are anti BNP so if one of the BNP ****s tried anything he would be crushed

Thats good to hear, especially that people of all those different political beliefs can unite in a common cause to defeat Fascism.

Keep up the good work and drive the BNP out of the whole of Glasgow and then Scotland!

[Mr. Path-e-fist]

Glasgow has problems but one good thing is that we(the left) have taken complete control of the town center, there are Anarchists, socialists,communists and various pro-Palestine and Greenpeace activists. all of which are anti BNP so if one of the BNP ****s tried anything he would be crushed

I havent seen much of the BNP about Glasgow. I saw them at the trident demo last feb but seen more lefties than righties in town. Could you keep us up to date on any info about them please? Much appreciated.

[Atrus]

What is the BNPs problem with Poles anyway? Don't they claim that they want whats best for the "white race"?

[Gitfiddle Jim]

There has been rapid immigration into my city in the last few years, and the BNP are getting more and more support. I've seen one or two kids around college with fucking swastikas on their bags or whatever, and most people are openly racist.

[Jack Ruby]

One of the many problems with the BNP is that they are attracting votes from people who usually wouldn't make the effort to go to their local polling station. They think they are making some kind of a statement when in reality they should just spoil their ballot paper.

[Dr Mindbender]

Glasgow has problems but one good thing is that we(the left) have taken complete control of the town center, there are Anarchists, socialists,communists and various pro-Palestine and Greenpeace activists. all of which are anti BNP so if one of the BNP ****s tried anything he would be crushed
the left wings concentration in inner city areas is counter-productive. These are largely affluent, middle class corporocrats living round here. This does nothing to counteract the 'champagne socialist' stereotype. It is the kitchen sink council estates where the BNP are attracting supporters. The UK left needs to get out of its metropolitan comfort zone and take the fight to the BNP on it's own turf.

[Forward Union]

Firstly Antifa is anti-state which you're not, so you couldn't join. And secondlyy they don't really do the whole leaflet thing.

The best way you can fight fascism is by fighting capitalism.

[ecoTROTSKYIST]

The best way you can fight fascism is by fighting capitalism.

Exactly :D And Antifa has got to be one of the most infantile and counter-progressive organisations I've ever heard of.

[RedAnarchist]

Exactly :D And Antifa has got to be one of the most infantile and counter-progressive organisations I've ever heard of.

Why and do you have a better idea?

[Holden Caulfield]

There has been rapid immigration into my city in the last few years, and the BNP are getting more and more support. I've seen one or two kids around college with fucking swastikas on their bags or whatever, and most people are openly racist.

same here when i was in secondary and we dont have many immigrants they were just dumbassed punks who didnt understand how the whole skinhead thing started, i got put the the camply named "quiet room" for 2 days for head butting one to defend a black girl i knew from my class, ****s


Exactly :D And Antifa has got to be one of the most infantile and counter-progressive organisations I've ever heard of.

i agree
you have to be anti-state to be antifa? why does my view make me less opposed to it, if we are fighting a real threat here you people are infantile for bringing in sectarian/faction arguments here, and make less friends and so weaken yourselves and make me think you are twats too obsessed with your label

[luxemburg89]

I live in the area of town where the Polish and Czech migrant workers live so I'm friends with a fair number of people who receive daily abuse, dirty looks and whispers behind their backs. As the majority of people in daily contact with them are over 50 they have little threat of violence (though it only takes a few thugs) but the effect is much the same. I'm afraid Britain is largely xenophobic, and most people will not listen to reasoned argument. I have very little hope for Britain.

[jaffe]

i agree
you have to be anti-state to be antifa? why does my view make me less opposed to it, if we are fighting a real threat here you people are infantile for bringing in sectarian/faction arguments here, and make less friends and so weaken yourselves and make me think you are twats too obsessed with your label

You can always start your own antifascist organisation...

[Zurdito]

i went past today to get some more crazy Polish imported juice, (i dont know what the fuck it is made of but its nice) and all seemed well not that i asked how they felt or anything but it looked well,

i dont think that the BNP would be dumb enough to attack a shop after having their car out side with the number plate on it and such, although they are pretty dumb so i wudnt have been suprised

it's not like the police are exactly tough on the BNP.

[Red_Mackem]

In the old days of the 70's if that had been a car with an NF sticker, I would have done some serious damage to the car, but as the comrade says and nodoubt right it would have been worse for the Polish shop keepers.. Good idea though.

[Red_Mackem]

Don't forget with modern CCTV you could be on Big Brothers TV sets!

[Colonello Buendia]

I havent seen much of the BNP about Glasgow. I saw them at the trident demo last feb but seen more lefties than righties in town. Could you keep us up to date on any info about them please? Much appreciated.

I'll keep you posted:D

[Colonello Buendia]

the left wings concentration in inner city areas is counter-productive. These are largely affluent, middle class corporocrats living round here. This does nothing to counteract the 'champagne socialist' stereotype. It is the kitchen sink council estates where the BNP are attracting supporters. The UK left needs to get out of its metropolitan comfort zone and take the fight to the BNP on it's own turf.
what should be clarified is that the city center of Glasgow is actually on the riverside and the people who live there are mostly workers,there are major chain stores but it's mostly proletarians who come to the city center, the west end of the city is ridden with bourgeois folks

[Mr. Path-e-fist]

Yeah thats true. Glasgows riverside is well known of being communist, socialist and a labour supporter. Infact the scottish office of the UK's communist party is about a 3 minute walk from Clydeside and less than a minute from Cental Station. Keeping all Glasweigens informed (:

[Sam_b]

I havent seen much of the BNP about Glasgow. I saw them at the trident demo last feb but seen more lefties than righties in town. Could you keep us up to date on any info about them please? Much appreciated.

Not much need to worry comrade, they only really come out from behind their rocks during election time, and by then we've got them outnumbered.

[Sam_b]

Not much need to worry comrade, they only really come out from behind their rocks during election time, and by then we've got them outnumbered.


UK's communist party

Which one?

[Cold]

I am interested in some ideas that are talked about here and I still have a lot to learn. However, one of the main things that I don't agree with here is violence. I cannot condone violence.

[Mr. Path-e-fist]

Which one? scottishcommunists.org.uk


I'm not worried about the BNP I was just want to give them some AGRO.

[Holden Caulfield]

I am interested in some ideas that are talked about here and I still have a lot to learn. However, one of the main things that I don't agree with here is violence. I cannot condone violence.

bloody pacifist, im not saying we should rely on violence or use it unduely but we should never rule it out, or turn the other cheek, listen to malcom X on this subject,

[bellyscratch]

Ha! BNP. Well, i know a bit on these set of bastards.

let me start off by saying my dad is a supporter of the BNP, well he was the last time i saw him, which was over a year ago. My dad is a racist. If you talk to him he'd say that the particular groups he does not like are pakistanis, muslims or any illegal immigrants/asylum seekers. However, he will eat curry from the local pakistani owned takeaway 3 times a week and one of his best mates wives is pakistani.

The contradcitions just annoy me even more.

Anyway, my dad is not overtly racist at all. By this i mean he would not deliberatly harm someone because of their ethnicity directly or racially insult someone directly. So there are alot worse BNP supporters than him, but he is still racist.

I also know someone who has run for BNP candidate in local elections, although im told he has left the BNP now. I know him mainly through my dad, although they werent that close friends. He is a regular customer of the local working mens club that i used to live near, where i occaisonly played snooker.

This place openly talked about BNP, even when a young mixed race guy was working there (mum was white british and his dad was pakistani i believe). He was brought up by his mum and is very 'british' (i know that is a shit way of describing it but you know what i mean) in the way he acted. anyway, he worked there while the 'war on terror' was beginning and he quickly acquired the name 'Taliban Tony'. I dont know how he worked there for so long, must of been 5 years.

Anyway, just thought id give my experience of this supposed political party

[Comrade Rage]

Keying the car was probably the best thing you could have done, like your GF said, slashing the tyres probably would have made it worse for the polish people.You should've put sugar in it's tank.

[Mr. Path-e-fist]

You should've put sugar in it's tank.

It doesn't work :/ Now bleach is top stuff for ruining a car. Saw this on mythbusters. Anyway being a jag it would be hard to get the fuel cap off.

[Comrade Rage]

You should've put sugar in it's tank.It doesn't work :/ Now bleach is top stuff for ruining a car. Saw this on mythbusters. Anyway being a jag it would be hard to get the fuel cap off.I don't know how it came that people think sugar kills a car, thanks for clearing that up. Also-thanks for the info on bleach.:ninja:

[Red_Mackem]

I am interested in some ideas that are talked about here and I still have a lot to learn. However, one of the main things that I don't agree with here is violence. I cannot condone violence.

Although I detest violence it is the only thing the reactionary Right respects and understands. They are a byproduct of the Capitalist system to keep down the Prolatariate. They must be swept away by any and every means at our disposal.

[RedAnarchist]

Although I detest violence it is the only thing the reactionary Right respects and understands. They are a byproduct of the Capitalist system to keep down the Prolatariate. They must be swept away by any and every means at our disposal.

You might detest violence now, but it'll be necessary when the time comes to abolish capitalism once adn for all.

[Atrus]

You might detest violence now, but it'll be necessary when the time comes to abolish capitalism once adn for all.

I agree, on the whole I am against violence as most violence is pretty senseless in our society, but when the time comes to overthrow capitalism the violence will only be what is necessary to improve the world, its a different type of violence, because it has the greater good at the end.

[Holden Caulfield]

violence is nessacary; those reactionary forces who have alot to lose when the people get wise will certainly resist and they have the corruption inducing money on their side so they will not be easy to defeat peacefully

[Red_Mackem]

I might detest violence but I will use it to get rid of the Capitalists and their far right running dogs. I did so in the 70's with the NF and I will do it again with the Imperialists and fascists. But violence must be used at the proper time and agains the correct enemy.

[Atrus]

violence must be used at the proper time and agains the correct enemy.

I agree, and only to a reasonale extent. To gain the advantage rather than to kill all enemies.

[Holden Caulfield]

depends who is being killed, i wouldnt be adverse to a few fascists going 'missing' in the confusion of a revolution

[Comrade Rage]

I wouldn't be adverse to a LOT of fascists going missing!:cool:;)

[Mr. Path-e-fist]

What about ALL the fascists going missing?

[Comrade Rage]

What about ALL the fascists going missing?Much better.:drool:

[Colonello Buendia]

seconded, some BNP kiddie found my Bebo and left a comment about why I'm spreading commie filth in a petty Bourgeois area of Glasgow.....goes to show that the BNP are actually so dumb they'd shit piss an ANRACHIST spreading COMMIE filth?????!?!?!:confused::scared::ohmy::cursing::b link::huh:

[Comrade Rage]

seconded, some BNP kiddie found my Bebo and left a comment about why I'm spreading commie filth in a petty Bourgeois area of Glasgow.....goes to show that the BNP are actually so dumb they'd shit piss an ANRACHIST spreading COMMIE filth?????!?!?!:confused::scared::ohmy::cursing::b link::huh:They confuse commies and anarchists all the time, they really are stupid.

I don't know how they dress themselves in the morning.:glare:

[Mr. Path-e-fist]

State, we should go hunt some fascist fuckers sometime soon.

[Red_Mackem]

What about ALL the fascists going missing?

I have no problem with that, get rid of the reactionaries of the right would only leave the Capitalist to fight.

[Dr Mindbender]

what should be clarified is that the city center of Glasgow is actually on the riverside and the people who live there are mostly workers,there are major chain stores but it's mostly proletarians who come to the city center, the west end of the city is ridden with bourgeois folks
I'm not sure about Glasgow, but I doubt your experience applies to everywhere. I'm referring to cities across the UK. I lived in Manchester, and the left wing activity just played into the hands of the reactionary naysayers. Every so often you'd have various party meetings every so often but it was always students and middle class folks that turned up. In council estate areas comrades were few and far between.

[Holden Caulfield]

the BNP were out in my town again this Saturday becoming quite a fixture, they were in their usual spot in town, i was pissed off (there car wasnt parked in the same place tho, what a shame)

but they were also set up in the area where i live in the working class inner city area i saw those fuckers on my way home, they are draining support out of these areas playing on ignorance and prejudice, i was fucking enraged, they are such fucking twats with their shitty newspapers telling, them to fuck off when they try to give me one is NOT ENOUGH, i have the urge to kill

[Colonello Buendia]

I'm not sure about Glasgow, but I doubt your experience applies to everywhere. I'm referring to cities across the UK. I lived in Manchester, and the left wing activity just played into the hands of the reactionary naysayers. Every so often you'd have various party meetings every so often but it was always students and middle class folks that turned up. In council estate areas comrades were few and far between.

I agree, my experience of activism is only in Glasgow, where it's different to many cities in the ways I mentioned earlier in most other cities I would think that campiagning in the working class areas would be better for the causes we support

[Colonello Buendia]

State, we should go hunt some fascist fuckers sometime soon.
that does sound interesting:cool:

[Philosophical Materialist]

I live in a semi-rural industrial town in north east England. It's never been very ethnically-diverse here except for the occasional takeaway and corner shop owner who was Asian.

The BNP has garnered some support here due to the steady number of eastern European migrants being scapegoated by the national reactionary press. The Daily Mail, Daily Express, The Sun, The News of the World, The People, The Daily Telegraph have all spread outright misinformation, lies, half-truths to whip up xenophobic sentiment to benefit the reactionary wings of New Labour, UKIP and the Tories. The side-effect is a pick up in BNP support.

The BNP are in no danger of picking up council seats here, but I am constantly hearing lies being spread by ordinary people (which have originated with both the BNP, and right-wing media) such as, "the Poles go to the top of council housing lists", "the Poles get free driving lessons", "the Poles can claim benefits straight away", "the Poles get free rent" etc. It's all bullshit, but people are taught not to analyse the material conditions which create housing shortages and poverty, and are presented with an easy-to-identify scapegoat.

Fortunately, where the BNP have picked up council seats they've been shown to be liars, incompetent, lazy, and many no-show council meeting out of lack of interest and the proceedings going over their heads. I remember reading a report where a BNP councillor only turned up to a council meetings once and only asked what "abstain" meant.

[Holden Caulfield]

a lot of BNP activists and leaders have criminal records for beating their wives or alcohol agrevatted assault

[Lenin II]

you have to be anti-state to be antifa? why does my view make me less opposed to it, if we are fighting a real threat here you people are infantile for bringing in sectarian/faction arguments here, and make less friends and so weaken yourselves and make me think you are twats too obsessed with your labelI seriously doubt you have to be anti-state to be antifa. They are united for the cause of fighting these scum, and especially with the recent upsurge in racial tension in the UK they need as many active members such as yourself as they can get.

If they do reject you on that basis, they are being counterrevolutionary. Then I would say fuck them and go form your OWN anti-fascist "club."

It's never too late to fight the good wars.


a lot of BNP activists and leaders have criminal records for beating their wives or alcohol agrevatted assault
Not really surprising. These are very angry and chauvinist people. They don't care who they hurt so long as they have some group to blame for all their problems.

[Mr. Path-e-fist]

liveleak.com/view?i=e42_1203356314 This should be done with all skinheads, except with iron sheets.

[RedAnarchist]

liveleak.com/view?i=e42_1203356314 This should be done with all skinheads, except with iron sheets.

Depends. If they can be reasoned with, no need. If they cannot, bash away.

[palotin]

Is there some national organization with chapters at different unis? Where on the car did you key it? Would like to imagine it.

[Lead Headache]

I'm polish, and i'm glad you did what you did. keep it up, man.