peaccenicked
24th January 2002, 21:40
The one thing about the defenders of capitalism, they have in common is that they are like Don Quixote dashing at windmills created in their minds or by the
right wing hacks who get employed by the media in the
US and elsewhere.
It is a problem that might be helped if the capi's as Malte calls them actually tried to understand who they are talking to, what are we really saying, as far as general consensus exists.
Firstly, about independence of mind.
"Scott Miekle brings to light the following quote from Marx's correspondence.
"Here I quote Marx in praising Ricardo, for what he called scientific honesty, but also 'scientifically required', For the same reason he condemned as 'mean' a person who subordinated scientific objectivity to extraneous purposes. "
Is this not how an independent mind operates?
That means that just because something is from a left wing source it does not prove right or wrong. I want to know the validity of every single piece of information at my disposal and if you look at my website, you will see right wing sources republican and liberal . I even have a link to an isolationist republican anti war site.
But less of myself.
The plot is that there is a small group of people own most of the planet. This is not in our interests. Let us take that wealth away from them and share it with the world's majority. Let us increase our wealth since it is ours and not theirs. It was nt theirs in the first place. It was stolen from our ancestors. The middle class should not have petty material ambitions but own the world too with us. Socialists are not against personal property but the private property of the employing class who employ
the vast majority of the worlds workers. The revolutions in the poor countries failed because they were surrounded by big wealthy countries and were under siege thus becoming prey for counter revolution and horrific dictatorhips more in common with capitalism than working class democratic power.
All that history has shown is that revolution is possible when countries are in severe crisis, we need the developed world to ensure it does not act as a base of seige against our revolution elsewhere and we are going to regain the world in the name of our anscestors. What do you think you can say to us that will get in our road.
All you can do is try to rob us of knowledge of ourselves,
our size, our democratic spirit, our potential.
You are doomed to failure.
We have the force of historical truth on our side.
(Edited by peaccenicked at 11:17 pm on Jan. 24, 2002)
right wing hacks who get employed by the media in the
US and elsewhere.
It is a problem that might be helped if the capi's as Malte calls them actually tried to understand who they are talking to, what are we really saying, as far as general consensus exists.
Firstly, about independence of mind.
"Scott Miekle brings to light the following quote from Marx's correspondence.
"Here I quote Marx in praising Ricardo, for what he called scientific honesty, but also 'scientifically required', For the same reason he condemned as 'mean' a person who subordinated scientific objectivity to extraneous purposes. "
Is this not how an independent mind operates?
That means that just because something is from a left wing source it does not prove right or wrong. I want to know the validity of every single piece of information at my disposal and if you look at my website, you will see right wing sources republican and liberal . I even have a link to an isolationist republican anti war site.
But less of myself.
The plot is that there is a small group of people own most of the planet. This is not in our interests. Let us take that wealth away from them and share it with the world's majority. Let us increase our wealth since it is ours and not theirs. It was nt theirs in the first place. It was stolen from our ancestors. The middle class should not have petty material ambitions but own the world too with us. Socialists are not against personal property but the private property of the employing class who employ
the vast majority of the worlds workers. The revolutions in the poor countries failed because they were surrounded by big wealthy countries and were under siege thus becoming prey for counter revolution and horrific dictatorhips more in common with capitalism than working class democratic power.
All that history has shown is that revolution is possible when countries are in severe crisis, we need the developed world to ensure it does not act as a base of seige against our revolution elsewhere and we are going to regain the world in the name of our anscestors. What do you think you can say to us that will get in our road.
All you can do is try to rob us of knowledge of ourselves,
our size, our democratic spirit, our potential.
You are doomed to failure.
We have the force of historical truth on our side.
(Edited by peaccenicked at 11:17 pm on Jan. 24, 2002)