Firefry on Agriculture

[FireFry]

Both are extremes, what should be done is that the market place itself should be controlled through democratic consumerist means. That is, Corn growers are legally required to put all their product on the market at a certain time of the year or month.

So, what I mean is, every saturday, and only every saturday and sunday, the markets are open. And every end of the month, there is fresh produce once more. Remember, crops have little to do with industrialism and more to do with climate.

So, we need to localise our diets before we can ever begin to collectivise them. Grain is a crop that was originally local to one region. That is, mediterranean europe. In other regions, other crops happen naturally, but the europeans don't change their diets, so this causes a climate crisis for the europeans.

What we need to always avoid is cases of circular logic that allows authority structures to arrive. Read Catch 22 if you want to understand this.

[FireFry]

Communism is very eurocentric. I would expect something like a new potato famine in the united states given its current dependence on Wheat, corn and existing produce en masse farms.

Biological diversity, as typical, will pull the human race through to a higher stage of survival somehow.

[erupt]

The United States claim they have so much food and grain tucked away in case of natural distasters, famines, etc, but who will that food and grain go to? None other than the elite class.

But in response to the original post, I think the most important thing to do would be to prevent private property from arising in letting the peasant own his/her farm. Each farm should be required to grow a different crop, which should be chosen in importance to the heartiness and nutriance of the crop. The peasants grow it, then distribute the food to the people as it grows. All the while a the extras should be tucked away some where in case of things like the little ice age or a drought.

[Individuality]

democratic consumerist means. That is, Corn growers are legally required to put all their product on the market at a certain time of the year or month.
People are pretty stupid. I'm sure everyone here thinks that about me, but since when did a democratic process yield what was best? The democratic process, which is a popularity contest, could elect someone that does somethings stupid, say like the same people that elected George W. Bush.


The peasants grow it, then distribute the food to the people as it grows. All the while a the extras should be tucked away some where in case of things like the little ice age or a drought.
It's nice to see that some professions would get private property. What happens if they don't produce enough food?

[erupt]

It's nice to see that some professions would get private property. What happens if they don't produce enough food?
There would be plenty of grain and crop to go around. The other peasants could just as be growing reserve crops and if both peasant farms are producing grain, then one's crops go to the giant reserve station.

[pusher robot]

There would be plenty of grain and crop to go around. The other peasants could just as be growing reserve crops and if both peasant farms are producing grain, then one's crops go to the giant reserve station.

Is a peasant class a requisite to communism??!??!

[erupt]

Is a peasant class a requisite to communism??!??!
Is a peasant class a requisite to capitalism??!??! Food needs to be made/created/grown in some manner. However a communistic society decides to do that is up to them. Who knows, when human-kind smartens up maybe we will all be eating our meals by swallowing pills.

[Individuality]

There would be plenty of grain and crop to go around.
I'm one of the persons that likes to know how things work. How does a communist society ensure that there is enough food produced? Are there quotas? And if so, do workers get exploited to meet those quotas?

[erupt]

I'm one of the persons that likes to know how things work. How does a communist society ensure that there is enough food produced? Are there quotas? And if so, do workers get exploited to meet those quotas?
Did you read my whole reply? In an communist society (especially in the development stages,) there will be a large reliance on peasants and farmers to create grain to feed people. If a lot of people do it, how can one say there won't be food? Unless a catastrophic drought occurs right after the communists take power, what is to say humankind can't grow grain?