Huber Matos - True Cuban Revolutionary

[Capitalist]

http://www.fiu.edu/~fcf/castro_year1/huber...atos.yr1fc.html (http://www.fiu.edu/~fcf/castro_year1/huber.matos.yr1fc.html)

Read the above website. This man was a true revolutionary.

[peaccenicked]

It is impossible to be a revolutionary and a capitalist in this epoch. Not to want communists in government
was quite stupid really. I think Castro at the beginning wanted to play America against The Soviet Union. Unfortunately the US over reacted and left Cuba completely in the Soviet camp.
Surely a 'true revolutionary' like you supports the embargo of cuba. If America is so great why are you
so sad and pathetic to be posting anti cuban propagand
on leftist website. Have you nothing better to do with the time you have inherited in the land of the freedom
to surf and play softball or meet some nice people who
might give you something more worthwhile to do. All you continue to do is prove how stupid you are.

(Edited by peaccenicked at 8:18 pm on Jan. 11, 2002)

[Capitalist]

During the American Civil War the Confederate South considered themselves to be the rebels during that war.

Just because you rebel, doesn't mean you are revolutionary.

You may actually be the oppressor - or his pawn swayed by ingenious propaganda - to make you feel like the revolutionary.

"Machine Against the Rage!"

[peaccenicked]

That be the biggest ammount of nonsense I have read.
You are at the wind up surely. Your head is full of dumb propaganda that a ten year old could see though your knee jerk defensiveness. You have to be able to decipher propaganda to think clearly and a revolutionary wants to get rid of the capitalist ruling class and replace them with the working class as rulers. We know
who we are!you are entirely ignorant of what constitutes common sense and human history

(Edited by peaccenicked at 11:24 pm on Jan. 11, 2002)

[Kez]

Without che, fidel and the commuists, the cuban revolution would have got no-where, had it not been for the communist ussr post-revolution, then the cubans would not have continued the revolution as such

comrade kamo

[HardcoreCommie]

either we admit that cuba is a communist state along the lines of USSR and N.Korea, etc. and therefore a fascist state, or we say that communism is an oppressive force. We can't do both.

[Capitalist]

What kind of Revolution lasts for 40 + Years?

Where is the change?

Answer:

Psuedo-Revolution

[Capitalist]

"Personally, I'am not interested in power nor do I envisage assuming it at any time. All that I will do is to make sure that the sacrifices of so many compatriots should not be in vain...."

-Fidel Castro

Despite this declaration, Castro became a staunch Soviet ally and has been dictator of Cuba for over 40 years. (1959 - Present)

[Son of Scargill]

Theoretical point~I know~but if social enlightenment had come before self interest and greed~would capitalism be able to survive in a sea of communism~just interested to know if you think it could have~and why?

[booga]

Quote: from Capitalist on 6:55 pm on Jan. 12, 2002
"Personally, I'am not interested in power nor do I envisage assuming it at any time. All that I will do is to make sure that the sacrifices of so many compatriots should not be in vain...."

-Fidel Castro

Despite this declaration, Castro became a staunch Soviet ally and has been dictator of Cuba for over 40 years. (1959 - Present)


you see? i was thinking about this earlier but on another post. someone mentioned the possibility of Castro being jealous of Che. Maybe it was because Che wasnt bound the way Castro was. hmm sometimes you must do things that you dont necessarily intent but your actions dictate what your future position may be, usually this will be the last thing you want. this is what is so intriging when you set out your mission, you may know what it facilitates and the eventual outcome yet how many people can predict their own fate? destiny? yes maybe!

[Capitalist]

I agree - Castro used Che Guevara and the communist to concrete his power and dictatorship. However the communist supporters were the ones that aided this dictatorship through their supression of all things considered counter-revolutionary or counter-communist.

ban on free enterprise

ban on free press

ban on free elections

ban on free assembly

ban on political parties (except communist party)

These were all communist ideas - not democratic ideas.

[peaccenicked]

Capitalism and democracy are incompatible. For communism to work it needs to be democratic.
Fidel did not call himself communist at first. The western
journalists gave him the label so he took it. Free enterprise is not free, it is the legalised economic exploitation of workers. I support free press free assembly and elections that are not corrupted by money. There has never been a free election where huge ammounts of money are spent one sidedly on behalf of one or two groups. Free elections are actually a communist idea, extremely expensive not.
Why are you so obssessed with the Communist =tyranny idea. It would be more plausible if you knew what communism is. If I call myself a nice guy then I hit you would you go around hitting nice guys because thats all you are doing metaphorically. read my post on
America the undemocratic, form a human rights group in your own country. Criticise cuba from the left not from the right, you would have a lot more sense and credibility.

[Moskitto]

Communism - Capitalism
Democracy - Dictatorship

the best way to remember is the 2 Cs are opposites and the 2 Ds are opposites.

[Capitalist]

Communism = Dictatorship
Democracy = Capitalism

The C = D and the D = C the CD is opposite of DC.

[Capitalist]

O.K. let me (a Democratic Capitalist) try to understand what you Democratic Communist are saying.

Communism with free elections, free press, free assembly, but not free enterprise.

Everybody must work for the state.

Nobody can own land.

Nobody can own their own business.

Anything invented must be given to the state.

Nobody can make more money that someone else.

Where is the incentive?

Why work harder if you must give the fruits of your labor and innovation to the state. You must allow people to profit off their contribution or they will not contribute.

[peaccenicked]

capitalism=dictatorship of the fat cats
transition= dictatorship of the working class
second transition=classless democracy
communism=freedom(old organisational forms obsolete)