capitalism

[peaccenicked]

Capitalism does nt work, you have had it all over the world and it still does nt. All you say it works in theory are living in a fairy tale world. You can hardly get good clean air these days and you can't buy it anywhere.
Then you have got the great imperialist empire not even playing the game with other capitalists over creating the planet saving ozone layer. Then there is all that hypothermia that kills pensioners. How can anybody say Capitalism works without being heartless and stupid?
So then what you say then is so capitalism does nt work but communism does nt either. It does nt matter if we haven't tried sharing the planet and living peacefully
because we know it did nt work because it did not work in russia or any other (fucking) commie state.
We ask you why? Because human beings are bastards.
God is that all you want say? why not get it off your chest now and just post a yes. You don't have to do it again we heard the first time.

[Capitalist]

Your insults will not convince anyone you are right.

Must use facts.

Examples of Capitalistic/Democratic Nations

The United States
England, Free Europe, (etc.)
Japan
Puerto Rico

Examples of Communistic States

USSR, China, Cuba, Vietnam, Cambodia

Look at how the people live in each country.

Enough Said.

[peaccenicked]

'Bad oranges bad oranges bad oranges'
that was a qote from another thread
you can prove the USSR was communist
can you? that would be helpful. Hardly anybody on the left tries that but we will
listen. At least for a laugh. You compare
broken down cars with broken down bikes
when we want an areoplane.
Why can't you answer me? Are you trying to prove something?
Bad bikes bad bikes bad bikes
Ah finally I have got it
bad bikes dont work so neither should a good working aeroplane. Explain
but no! It will be bad bikes
bad oranges bad bikes bad oranges.
I am only changing the metaphor because
hearing the same argument hearing enough said
It is all you say.
Do ever listen to yourself repeating the samething all the time. To people who think you are a moron. then say'Gee whiz I wish I had a brain'


(Edited by peaccenicked at 5:14 pm on Jan. 16, 2002)

[Hayduke]

if its a fairy tale then were's the happy end ?

[Imperial Power]

Peace what were you drinking well writing this thread?

[I Will Deny You]

I hardly ever get involved in this forum because I feel like the debates are immature and all people here are such closed-minded hard liners sometimes, but now I'll say something just to shake up my routine.

Capitalist, you say that the USSR and China are communist. I disagree 100%, but for the sake of argument let's assume that China is a communist nation. Here's the thing: you also say that Vietnam and Cambodia are communist nations. China is the most capitalist-leaning of all these "communist" countries. It is also the most favored by the West. I would assume that this means you would pick China over Vietnam or Cambodia anyday. Here's the thing, though: China's workers are paid less than anyone in the world--as low as 25 cents per hour. China definitely leads the farthest towards being capitalist, and it is arguably the shittiest by a mile.

[peaccenicked]

IP what are you on?
must be good shit even 'capitalist' made more sense than you. I was just made clear to him how boring his rants were. you seem incapable of understanding analogy. you think like an accountant , have the politics of an accountant and the political flair of a second hand salesman. Though I hate getting personal. I want you to have some insight into how boring I find you.

(Edited by peaccenicked at 10:26 pm on Feb. 1, 2002)

[Imperial Power]

Peace I think you want to be my best friend.

Peace why are you so angry? I think that a 4 year old could manipulate you to insanity. Get a grip man. It seemed like a drunken rant that started this thread.

[peaccenicked]

You should read Aristotle on friendship, it is in the nimochean ethics. Friendhip involves pleasure. The only pleasure I take from you is the knowledge of your distance away from me. Everyone of sense wishes the best for others and I would not wish you bad health.
I sincerely believe you are deeply oppressed by the libetarian ideology that gives you comfort, in that it prevents you from avoiding to think too hard. I see how you avoid thinking all the time. It is sad to see a mind
go to waste. It is frustrating for a lover of beauty such as myself to see any person lose their soul to a doctrine
that goes against the deepest and most noble longings of humanity for the higher things. Each of humankind deserves this no matter what, even those who belittle themselves to the money fetish or the ways of crime. To quote the bible,
the truth shall set you free.
my patience wears thin with your dogmatism. My rant was aimed specifically at capitalist and was a continuation of other threads, if I was christian I would pray for you, as a communist, I can only hope that honesty wins out over falsehood in your heart.
For this is the way that socialism will win.
I am probably a lot older than you and my experience of what Hegel calls "the Way of the World'' is that ideology
held deeply is painfully lost to objective realisations and
truths born out of the depth of great study and critical thinking and experience make up the content of the life of everyone as a whole life. I hope you begin this journey before your old age takes you away from this very valuable asset life and away from the absurd but comfortable conclusions you have reached.