"The Invasion": Anti- socialist?

[Prairie Fire]

I just finished watching the movie "The invasion" with Nicole Kidman and Daniel Craig.


Not a bad show (not a great one either, ), but I really became concious of the undertones in the movie.

(spoiler alert.)

In the movie. kidman is looking for her son and trying to escape from the populace who are infected with an alien virus. The virus (for reasons not explained in the movie), takes over the minds of the peopla, and allows them to still have their memories and some vestiges of their persynality, but no emotions. It is systematic the way that people are assimilated, often forcefully, by the this growing collectiv eof infected people (even though they don't explain what their end goal is.).

In the meantime, the infected around the world start ending wars of imperialist conflict (like Iraq), pulling (infected) troops out of occupied areas. They also eliminate poverty,crime and whatever in the areas under their sway.

Now, the closing remarks of the movie, as well as a delightfully disgusting social-darwinian speech by the Russian ambasador character, lead to a general theme in the movie that Imperialist war, poverty,oppression, crime,etc are all the "cost we pay for our humanity".

The whole theme comes off as "This system isn't perfect, but in order to change it, we'd have to become emotionless drones. It' s okay to occupy countries and kill their people, to be exploited for wages, and to live in misery, because the only alternative is an un-realistic, hive mind society, where everyone loses (oh, the horror,) their individual thought! You can't eliminate imperialist war, poverty or oppression without eliminating individual thought, right?" :rolleyes:

This movie reminds me of an old star trek episode where the crew lands on a planet, where the people are also infected with spores that make them happy and they have a peaceful utopian life. The crew of the enterprise gets infected too, even Spock, and Kirk fucks it all up, getting them all off of the spores and giving a similar speech about "Man has to struggle, has to be be beaten down, etc etc" :rolleyes:.

I don't know; can anyone confirm my analysis of this flick?

[Vendetta]

Of course it is, isn't it a remake of all those 'Invasion of the Body-Snatcher' films?

The body-snatchers are supposed to represent communism.

[Hit The North]

The whole theme comes off as "This system isn't perfect, but in order to change it, we'd have to become emotionless drones. It' s okay to occupy countries and kill their people, to be exploited for wages, and to live in misery, because the only alternative is an un-realistic, hive mind society, where everyone loses (oh, the horror,) their individual thought! You can't eliminate imperialist war, poverty or oppression without eliminating individual thought, right?"

Yep, that just about sums up the essence of the bourgeois objection to socialism. :D You've gotta feel sorry for 'em, haven't you? They're out of ideas and on their way out.

[Gobythebear]

Yep, that just about sums up the essence of the bourgeois objection to socialism. :D You've gotta feel sorry for 'em, haven't you? They're out of ideas and on their way out.

Doubt it.

As much as I would like that to be true the capitalists have way too much power and people are to stupid to realize that. So they continue on living their lives and mucking about.

[Raúl Duke]

In the meantime, the infected around the world start ending wars of imperialist conflict (like Iraq), pulling (infected) troops out of occupied areas. They also eliminate poverty,crime and whatever in the areas under their sway.

Now, the closing remarks of the movie, as well as a delightfully disgusting social-darwinian speech by the Russian ambasador character, lead to a general theme in the movie that Imperialist war, poverty,oppression, crime,etc are all the "cost we pay for our humanity".

I suppose they tried to pull that off but in reality the "aliens" were actually just as imperialistic and genocidal: they wanted to wipe out normal humanity and forcefully merge with them. Their war was with the uninfected human. Although I see your point.

Actually when both characters were arguing about human nature both were wrong, from what I remember. (i.e. the Russian was exaggerating and distorting but was closer to the truth than kidman who was too idealistic; the Standford Prison experiments demonstrate that "being determines conscious" and how people's behaviors can be effected by their relations with other people and their environment, in this case the "prison guards" became sadists {of course it wasn't their natural nature to be like so but their social environment effected their behavior}.)


"This system isn't perfect, but in order to change it, we'd have to become emotionless drones. It' s okay to occupy countries and kill their people, to be exploited for wages, and to live in misery, because the only alternative is an un-realistic, hive mind society, where everyone loses (oh, the horror,) their individual thought! You can't eliminate imperialist war, poverty or oppression without eliminating individual thought, right?"

I wonder if those aliens were setting up a communist society? I didn't see much of that happening but if they did I wouldn't see a problem with merging with them lol. :p