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ILoveShrub
4th July 2003, 02:36
Should we consider Project Mayhem's formula as a reasonable way to gain support.

Should we use non-violent attacks on symbols of Capitalism and Imperialism? If so what would be good targets and what would be good ways to get media attention to spread the word.

Some of my ideas would be to burn money on Wall Street. Street theater of war in front of the pentagon. Or even taking over a major televison station or starting a pirate radio or tv station.

Any thoughts please tell me.

Thank you brothers and sisters

redstar2000
4th July 2003, 12:03
#Moderation Mode

I think this should be in the Practice Forum.

:cool:

Moved here (http://www.che-lives.com/cgi/community/topic.pl?forum=14&topic=571)

mentalbunny
4th July 2003, 19:54
Yes those are all pretty good ideas, except I personally wouldn't go for ther money burning one. Crimes against property like vandalism etc seems kinda good but there are also disadvantages, you are not just trying to attack the capitalistic rulers but also trying to encourage the workers, so from that respect the pirate radio and TV is much better. I have to say one of the things i really wnat to do one day is cover the Nike Village in London in graffitti accusing them of child labour and the like, but that's just for fun :wink:

Dhul Fiqar
5th July 2003, 17:02
If I ever get enough people and money together, I have a pretty amusing plan.

A Japanese company has developed a box that emits some kind of intense radio signal that scrambles all cellphones in a certain area and makes them unable to receive or make calls.

Imagine going down to Wall Street on the first day of trading after some holiday or major event, everyone ready to go nuts with the buying and selling, and turning one of those suckers on in a van outside the building.

Of course the internet and traders on the floor would still work, but a huge amount of information and discussion RELIES on cell phones in financial districts. These guys are running from meeting to meeting all day calling up to see what's up, and if their brokers have their phones off everyone panics.

If one could keep this up for an hour or two it would cost them millions of dollars at the very least :)

--- G.

p.s. the emiters can be altered to give them immense range, one might be able to put the whole capitol building in Washington out of cell phone contact

Dhul Fiqar
5th July 2003, 17:10
Oooh, that reminds me of something.

A few years ago a friend of mine was really upset about gasoline prices in Iceland. The prices in the world oil market dropped dramatically the year before, and the oil companies said it wouldn't change their gasoline prices in Iceland because they already bought a big stockpile at the old price.

Then the year that my friend snapped, oil prices suddenly rose, and the SAME DAY they hiked the prices up! What happened to those stockpiles that were bought at the old MUCH LOWER price?! Apparently, that only matters when it's the other way around, talk about hypocracy.

Anyway, this friend of mine takes a saw, jumps in his car, and saws off the pumps on gas stations all over town. He had a big heavy burlap sack full of the things. He then called the media and went with full media escort to the headquarters of the oil company with the sack to demand that they lower the price immediately.

He was of course arrested and charged and it turned out he came close to killing himself because there was metal wiring inside the pumps that could have caused a spark to blow up the whole pumping station. But he got lucky in that respect...

Anyway, peace out ;)

--- G.

bluerev002
7th July 2003, 03:37
I would like to switch teh Amecrican flag at the school with my jumbo Che flag thats hanging on my wall.

I kow thats not that big a deal

I liked how in the movie they switched the spikes on the gates and the car's tires poped :cheesy:

I really liked it when they fed pigeons and made them poop all over the cars.

Other than that...I have no idea what to do to raise up a project mahem army.

Che Jexster
7th July 2003, 20:15
Does anyone know what an electromagnetic pulse does? (EMP) it basically fucks up computers and anything that relies on an electrical signal. The US used them to knock out SAM sites against Iraq without actually destroying the infrastructure. Imagine the possibilities on wallstreet?

Douche the Bagger
11th July 2003, 07:48
Think how you could use EMPs to distrupt spy technology, video cams and ect. That could work as an advantage to a guerrillas.

Ben Sir Amos
11th July 2003, 13:16
Didn't hippies come up with some creative ideas for how to use too much lavatory paper in the toilets of high rise office blocks? I know it is low-tech compared with EMPs, but I think it may be just as effective if we made a concerted effort

CubanFox
11th July 2003, 13:28
Welcome to Che-Lives, Ben Sir Amos!

Juggernaught
15th July 2003, 13:39
Hmm...
I figured that if we somehow stop the electricity from reaching wall street for just a few minutes, we would almost ruin the states=)

Lefty
19th July 2003, 08:09
I imagine that the CIA will be paying you all a visit very shortly ;-). Seriously though, I enjoy the idea of messing with Wall Street. Now to get my hands on one of those little boxes...

mentalbunny
20th July 2003, 00:41
I agree lefty, but it would so be worth it!

Non-Sectarian Bastard!
21st July 2003, 00:28
Quote: from mentalbunny on 7:54 pm on July 4, 2003
Yes those are all pretty good ideas, except I personally wouldn't go for ther money burning one. Crimes against property like vandalism etc seems kinda good but there are also disadvantages, you are not just trying to attack the capitalistic rulers but also trying to encourage the workers, so from that respect the pirate radio and TV is much better. I have to say one of the things i really wnat to do one day is cover the Nike Village in London in graffitti accusing them of child labour and the like, but that's just for fun :wink:


It's actually a very good idea, but just add pictures of childlabours who are working on a nike-product.

Because of the horrific scenes on the picture some people might stop buying nike.

mentalbunny
21st July 2003, 11:13
good point CCCP, I might do that one day with a bunch of mates if I can organise something, that'd be cool.

Dirty Commie
21st July 2003, 13:46
The first rule of project Mayhem, is you DO NOT talk about project Mayhem

Oh screw, rules are ment to be broken.

Elect Marx
29th July 2003, 00:03
Anyone ever hear of EMP bombs. They are far more powerful and bombs are just eastier to use because they are directional as well. Anyone seen Oceans 11? There are EMP's in that, just wondering.

Organic Revolution
30th July 2003, 22:12
drop an emp right in the middle of wall street.. shut that down then go for the oil rigs ;)

Rastafari
31st July 2003, 21:45
Its in Goldeneye, so it HAS to be real!!!

Organic Revolution
1st August 2003, 20:23
;) yea

ric
4th August 2003, 09:52
great ideas lads/lasses but we would have to put our name on it and that means FBI n CIA trouble
still it would be a great laugh
fuck capitalism n america :ph34r:

Vinny Rafarino
4th August 2003, 10:03
Urban armed struggle by way of Hollywood Cinema. I'm sure glad I came to the surface.


Any of you read Carlos' mini-manual of the urban guerilla?

guerrillaradio
4th August 2003, 13:29
I'm trying to think of direct action for DSEi on 6th Sept. Gimme some ideas and I'll see what I can do...

Alan :ph34r:

Durruti
10th August 2003, 17:56
DO NOT TALK ABOUT PROJECT MEYHEM... and by the way, plans for an EMP could be found at totse.com
http://www.totse.com/en/bad_ideas/ka_fucki...oom/161699.html (http://www.totse.com/en/bad_ideas/ka_fucking_boom/161699.html)
That link is only for research. I've never tried it, so I don't know if it works. If you are interested in this project you should try it under controlled conditions (make sure to not wear a watch or have a credit card around when you turn it on) outside of the city...

Durruti
10th August 2003, 18:00
http://www.totse.com/en/bad_ideas/ka_fucki...oom/164724.html (http://www.totse.com/en/bad_ideas/ka_fucking_boom/164724.html)

That might be a better one.

mentalbunny
12th August 2003, 11:08
I've just read No Logo and I think we should try and establish contact with Reclaim the Streets, and develop that kind of idea.

We need to start being active in a way that's not just protests, we need real action, but Im not really sure how to go about it. I suggest people in schools go to a sympathetic teacher and think about the idea of a discussion group. I think it's important not to be too centrilised, local movements are better, get people to realise that politics is not a load of wankers promising things they don't intend on a national level, it's local, politics affects us all, it touches almost every aspect of our lives. And the politics of our area affects other people, there has to be a human element, which is why the anti-sweatshop movement was/is so succesful and has so many supporters, it's real to the public, the clothes they wear were produced by people in great suffering, so they feel partly responsible. This is basically all from No Logo, if you haven't read it, you must. Go and buy it ASAP.

In Solidarity :hammer:

guerrillaradio
12th August 2003, 15:10
Originally posted by [email protected] 12 2003, 11:08 AM
I think we should try and establish contact with Reclaim the Streets, and develop that kind of idea.
I heard they went under...

BTW if you think No Logo makes you wanna be active, try reading Fences and Windows.

Alan :ph34r:

REDWARRIOR
15th September 2003, 03:45
If you want to cut off the power to wall street, i sugest blowing up one of the utility towers which have all the high voltage power lines on em. Cause they bring all the power into certain area. Ussually they leave an area and head off towards the power plant. Least that's how it works in residential areas around here, and the suburban areas outside the GTA. I have no clue about the cities, and even less about wall street. Further more they propably have a back up power source

Hatchet
16th September 2003, 09:21
Hey,
I LOVE the street theatre idea. If you did it really professionaly with costumes, sound effects and maybe a big screen it would be unbelievably effective. You could get a playwrite to write it for you and some famous actors might join in, considering their fetish for causes. This would appeal directly to the masses, especially if staged at a large, crowded place-such as a bus interchange or outside a train station. A massive graffiti campaign would be good too, if it was well organised and the graffiti was good. Non-violence is the key.

Hatchet

mentalbunny
16th September 2003, 12:12
We should really work on some of this stuff!!!!

Hatchet
16th September 2003, 12:14
Plus you'd get heaps of support from the random fucktard element in society

Hatchet