R_P_A_S
26th January 2008, 21:51
recently a good friend and I have been going at it about the whole Ron Paul/Liberal thing. here's what we talk about. I want some advice as to what else do i need to point out in order to make better sense. thanks!
I AM IN BOLD.. SHE IS IN
THE QUOTE BOXES!
no no no see, its not about that. when he says he wants to abolish the dept of edu. he means that he wants to take the power away from the FEDERAL govt, and put more power in the hands of the people, like it was before, long ago. no home schooling, no privatized edu. the control will be at the STATE level, just like legalization of abortion would be, just like taxes will be. when people dont understand CONSTITUTIONALISTS, essays like the one below come about, and it just shows their ignorance.
fuck the constitution too. who wrote it? exactly... a new one needs to be drafted. they act like its the fucking holly bible or something. change the dated fucking thing.
either way. I am commie, haha =P. and I have no like, sympathy or care for anti union, anti working class neo cons. whats so hard to understand?
sweetie....
:(
you have a lot to learn.
can we just leave it at.. I hate Capitalism and I believe in historical materialism, life's not static! One day the current system will reach it's end. It's inevitable and like I told you. I have pride in my class and I will live and die for it. I'm not a reactionary or go along with the circus and it's puppet show.
You, as socially conscious you are and extremely intelligent when it comes to the environment and the negative effects capitalism inflicts on it among other things. Are a liberal and there for we don't share the same political views when it comes to Capitalism. You sadly once told me that "it will never go away".
we can coexist. I like you never-less but see my point of view. and understand why I oppose anything dealing with the Capitalist/Imperialist/Bourgeoisie governments of the world.
you guys wanna make Capitalism "nicer" and "more humane" IMPOSSIBLE! we wanna get rid of the whole fucking thing.
i dont think its impossible
basic marxism: it is impossible to to make it "nicer" or more "humane" while class antagonism exist. simple as that.
I have a lot to learn? I never claimed I knew it all...
question: what are you trying to get me to "learn" You do understand my politics right? why in the hell would you think you can "convert me" or make me sympathize with liberalism or whatever heck else you all cling on to?
is that what you think i am here for? to "convert you?"
dont claim that I cling onto ideologies, when you yourself cling to some as well.
i do understand your politics but you act like communism cant happen in steps, or we cant make it better while we are part of this whack system. its either all or nothing with you, but that simply cannot work. and there is no reason why you shouldnt fight to make the current system better!
I don't necessarily think you are here to convert me, nah.. I don't But sometimes you do come off like that.
I don't think communism will happen in my life time to be honest with you. I do believe steps are required to reach those conditions. BUT going through the bourgeoisie political system and picking their loudest barking candidates or the most ultra social democrats ARE NOT "steps" towards anything dealing with the empowerment of the working class.
I do fight, and we do fight. not to make the current system better. but to progressively get rid of it! that's the difference between true left wing people. we love democracy and that it self its a radical idea. that liberals, conservatives an anyone who doesn't want to eradicate capitalism can't seem to digest.
you asking me to hold hands with the man who wacks me everyday. i don't think so.
I AM IN BOLD.. SHE IS IN
THE QUOTE BOXES!
no no no see, its not about that. when he says he wants to abolish the dept of edu. he means that he wants to take the power away from the FEDERAL govt, and put more power in the hands of the people, like it was before, long ago. no home schooling, no privatized edu. the control will be at the STATE level, just like legalization of abortion would be, just like taxes will be. when people dont understand CONSTITUTIONALISTS, essays like the one below come about, and it just shows their ignorance.
fuck the constitution too. who wrote it? exactly... a new one needs to be drafted. they act like its the fucking holly bible or something. change the dated fucking thing.
either way. I am commie, haha =P. and I have no like, sympathy or care for anti union, anti working class neo cons. whats so hard to understand?
sweetie....
:(
you have a lot to learn.
can we just leave it at.. I hate Capitalism and I believe in historical materialism, life's not static! One day the current system will reach it's end. It's inevitable and like I told you. I have pride in my class and I will live and die for it. I'm not a reactionary or go along with the circus and it's puppet show.
You, as socially conscious you are and extremely intelligent when it comes to the environment and the negative effects capitalism inflicts on it among other things. Are a liberal and there for we don't share the same political views when it comes to Capitalism. You sadly once told me that "it will never go away".
we can coexist. I like you never-less but see my point of view. and understand why I oppose anything dealing with the Capitalist/Imperialist/Bourgeoisie governments of the world.
you guys wanna make Capitalism "nicer" and "more humane" IMPOSSIBLE! we wanna get rid of the whole fucking thing.
i dont think its impossible
basic marxism: it is impossible to to make it "nicer" or more "humane" while class antagonism exist. simple as that.
I have a lot to learn? I never claimed I knew it all...
question: what are you trying to get me to "learn" You do understand my politics right? why in the hell would you think you can "convert me" or make me sympathize with liberalism or whatever heck else you all cling on to?
is that what you think i am here for? to "convert you?"
dont claim that I cling onto ideologies, when you yourself cling to some as well.
i do understand your politics but you act like communism cant happen in steps, or we cant make it better while we are part of this whack system. its either all or nothing with you, but that simply cannot work. and there is no reason why you shouldnt fight to make the current system better!
I don't necessarily think you are here to convert me, nah.. I don't But sometimes you do come off like that.
I don't think communism will happen in my life time to be honest with you. I do believe steps are required to reach those conditions. BUT going through the bourgeoisie political system and picking their loudest barking candidates or the most ultra social democrats ARE NOT "steps" towards anything dealing with the empowerment of the working class.
I do fight, and we do fight. not to make the current system better. but to progressively get rid of it! that's the difference between true left wing people. we love democracy and that it self its a radical idea. that liberals, conservatives an anyone who doesn't want to eradicate capitalism can't seem to digest.
you asking me to hold hands with the man who wacks me everyday. i don't think so.