View Full Version : A question on nationalities, migration, and historical diasporas
Die Neue Zeit
26th January 2008, 20:13
In the modern world, there is much to be said regarding the appreciation of mobility rights ("freedom of movement"), especially in light of forced displacements in the past (and here I emphasize the wholesale diasporas which go all the way back to the slave mode of production). Does increased migration in the modern era have the same negative impact on the development of national cultures as diasporas?
Furthermore, what has a greater negative impact on the development of national cultures than diasporas?
black magick hustla
26th January 2008, 20:53
I don'r know but to hell with national culture and identity.
Dr Mindbender
26th January 2008, 21:37
In the modern world, there is much to be said regarding the appreciation of mobility rights ("freedom of movement"), especially in light of forced displacements in the past (and here I emphasize the wholesale diasporas which go all the way back to the slave mode of production). Does increased migration in the modern era have the same negative impact on the development of national cultures as diasporas?
Furthermore, what has a greater negative impact on the development of national cultures than diasporas?
it depends which migration patterns you have refer to. If you take the Irish-American migration, and the Indian migration to the UK, I think in both cases you find that it has been mutually beneficial to both parties. The host nation recieves a greater workforce, while the migrating diaspora recieves training and the obvious economic benefits.
The same cannot be said for the slave trade, of course.
Qwerty Dvorak
26th January 2008, 21:56
In the modern world, there is much to be said regarding the appreciation of mobility rights ("freedom of movement"), especially in light of forced displacements in the past (and here I emphasize the wholesale diasporas which go all the way back to the slave mode of production). Does increased migration in the modern era have the same negative impact on the development of national cultures as diasporas?
Furthermore, what has a greater negative impact on the development of national cultures than diasporas?
Increased migration and freedom of movement has led to the development of a new, and better, international culture. I live in Dublin, the capital city of Ireland and I think the massive wave of immigration has done wonders for the city and culture here. Not only has it led to a greater workforce which carried our economy forward (that is its benefit in the eyes of the capitalists, I obviously don't see it in exactly the same way because of the poor working conditions for the migrants) but it has also led to cultural diversity; we have Hungarian, Oriental and Polish food shops selling their wares and several times now I have witnessed the Chinese of the city come out into the streets for big parades and festive rituals, much to the delight of Irish children and amusement of Irish men and women (I'm sure this happens with other nationalities as well, but the Chinese seem to do it a lot).
VukBZ2005
27th January 2008, 08:28
I would personally say that migration from one country to the next is not beneficial if the country that the migration is occurring from has a small population (20,000-800,000). The reason why I say that is because the population has not grown to an extent from which it is able to sustain the main national culture that has developed there throughout that country's history. That would leave that country open to a type of immigration that would put the historical equilibrium that has existed there in question; an equilibrium that is necessary for the further social, cultural, economical and political development of that country.
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