Putin to revive Soviet era parades

[spartan]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/russia/article/0,,2244705,00.html

Thoughts?

I am sure this will have all the ignorant Conservative Americans crying that Russia is returning to the days of the USSR.

For me though, this is an obvious statement of intent, on Putins part, to the west to show that Russia "still has it", instead of actually commerating the defeat of Nazi Germany.

Rather pointless though IMO, as they should just have the veterans of the Great Patriotic War march down red square to some sort of memorial to lay a wreath there or something (Like we do here in Britain every 11th of november).

[Ismail]

1. Nostalgic nationalism
2. "We still got it" as you said
3. Tankie attitude (related to 1, "tankie" as in a person who is only a "Communist" because they have a fetish for the Soviet military and have a "CRUSH THEM" view of things)

[Enragé]

^whut he said

[Psy]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/russia/article/0,,2244705,00.html

Thoughts?

I am sure this will have all the ignorant Conservative Americans crying that Russia is returning to the days of the USSR.

For me though, this is an obvious statement of intent, on Putins part, to the west to show that Russia "still has it", instead of actually commerating the defeat of Nazi Germany.

Rather pointless though IMO, as they should just have the veterans of the Great Patriotic War march down red square to some sort of memorial to lay a wreath there or something (Like we do here in Britain every 11th of november).
The old army parades were a anniversary of the October Revolution (which is why they were held on the 7th of November) but Putin plans to march on May for an anniversary of the victory over WWII, so I doubt we'd be see the giant banner of Lenin both on the building they usually march in front (between 1917 and the current year) and in the parade itself.

[Holden Caulfield]

i dont think that there is anything fundamentally wrong with nostalgia for the past or the victories of the workers,

but this kind of thing is just a political way of showing how 'my cock is more impressive than yours' and a clear waste of time, money, etc.. when a few veterans marching or a miniute of reflection would envoke the emotions that should be apparent at such occasions, and not a sense of nationalistic pride that mass rallies do

[Lenin II]

Putin is a Kruschevite who would do well to learn a thing or two from the old Party. When he joined the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, they were already ruled by revisionist bloodsuckers. Hopefully seeing these parades will remind him of the legacy of Lenin and Stalin and all they accomplished, and will do the same for the people of Russia. If nationalism or national pride can be used as a progressive force, I'm all for it. The fact is that Russia needs as much of the old USSR as possible right now.

[ComradeR]

This seems to be a symptom of the growing hostility between the imperialist powers, that looks to be linked to the growing crisis in capitalism. And could (though it looks highly unlikely do to the deterrence of nuclear weapons,) lead to another imperialist war if the crisis gets bad enough.

Putin is a Kruschevite who would do well to learn a thing or two from the old Party. When he joined the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, they were already ruled by revisionist bloodsuckers. Hopefully seeing these parades will remind him of the legacy of Lenin and Stalin and all they accomplished, and will do the same for the people of Russia. If nationalism or national pride can be used as a progressive force, I'm all for it. The fact is that Russia needs as much of the old USSR as possible right now.
The Russian imperialists seem only interested in reviving the bad whilst discarding the good. So no, this is in no way a positive development.

[Digitalism]

we have military parades every 9th of May to celebrate the end of WW2, i don't see how it's nostalgic.

[Red_or_Dead]

Military parades as such are a waste of time and money. Putin is no communist, regardless of what certain ignorant people in the west think, so this parade wont have anything to do with communism, apart from maybe wawing old flags, and veterans with red stars on their hats.



1. Nostalgic nationalism
2. "We still got it" as you said
3. Tankie attitude (related to 1, "tankie" as in a person who is only a "Communist" because they have a fetish for the Soviet military and have a "CRUSH THEM" view of things)

Exactly.

[Dimentio]

Putin is a Kruschevite who would do well to learn a thing or two from the old Party. When he joined the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, they were already ruled by revisionist bloodsuckers. Hopefully seeing these parades will remind him of the legacy of Lenin and Stalin and all they accomplished, and will do the same for the people of Russia. If nationalism or national pride can be used as a progressive force, I'm all for it. The fact is that Russia needs as much of the old USSR as possible right now.

Putin was as far as I know never a CPSU member.

[Cheung Mo]

The question isn't even especially relevant: Saying your a communist or that your party is a communist does not make you a communist. Didn't we all learn this by observing China's actions? I mean, the Chinese Communist Party delivered opponents of Pinochet to Chilean death squads, created a powerful ultra-rich class by implementing some of the worst practices of Western crony capitalism (the ideas encompassed by the ridiculous euphemism "socialism with Chinese characteristics"), military, providing funding to the Nepali Royal Army that rivals Washington's and London's(The CPN-M has documented this on its website), and forging power alliances with the most reactionary factions of the bourgeoisie in Taiwan (KMT) and Hong Kong (all of the powerful pro-Beijing parties identify themselves as conservative, liberal-conservative, and capitalistic...The anti-Beijing organisms range in orientation from Christian Democratic (the Catholic so-con faction of the Democratic Party) to social liberal and social democratic (other factions of the Democratic Party, The Frontier, Civic Act-Up) to democratic socialism (the oddly named League of Social Democrats, which encompasses ex-Democrats from the dissolved left-wing Young Turks faction and a number of political dissidents who identify themselves with anarchism and Marxism and who consider anything from Washington or from Beijing to be radioactive to Hong Kong's quality of life).

I could not make Yhwh real by acknowledging "his" existence either, for that matter.

[careyprice31]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/russia/article/0,,2244705,00.html

Thoughts?

I am sure this will have all the ignorant Conservative Americans crying that Russia is returning to the days of the USSR.

For me though, this is an obvious statement of intent, on Putins part, to the west to show that Russia "still has it", instead of actually commerating the defeat of Nazi Germany.

Rather pointless though IMO, as they should just have the veterans of the Great Patriotic War march down red square to some sort of memorial to lay a wreath there or something (Like we do here in Britain every 11th of november).

I hate Putin.

Have always hated him since August 2000 (the time of the Kursk disaster)

[RNK]

Given the borderline-racist attitude of the Putin government, the wildly conservative reactionary tendencies he exhibits and uninhibited capitalism marking Russian economic development, I'd say the move is more fascist that anything.

Putin scares me.

[Die Neue Zeit]

Putin was as far as I know never a CPSU member.

Yes he was. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Putin#Early_years_and_KGB_career)

[careyprice31]

Vladimir Putin was at one time , chief of the former KGB.

[Die Neue Zeit]

^^^ No. He was the chief of the FSB. As some dissident KGB comrades (based in Moscow) noted, Leningrad KGBers were seen as losers within the overall organization. He may have been a KGB agent and a CPSU member, but had the Soviet era continued, his career wouldn't gone too far.

[Awful Reality]

This sounds fine.

I hate Putin, but I'm sure somebody will find a way to get a Red Flag into these parades.

For the capitalists world-wide, they'll take something as insignificant as a military parade to terrorize fear of a Soviet "Re-Union" into the petty bourgeois, as they always do.

[Awful Reality]

Why are we making such a big deal over an insignificant parade?

Bring back a planned economy or the soviets- that might help a lot more.

[Robocommie]

Nothing gets the blood pumping and the heart swollen with pride at being a Socialist like the old Soviet regalia, I find, but Putin won't bring the socialism back to Russia. Just the repression.