So how many of yall actually have a job?

[Anarchist Freedom]

I used to consider myself a leftist anarchist whatever. Then I got a job and something changed I realized how much I love MONEY! Yes thats right a commie pinko sold out to get that guap. Why you ask? because I realized that a dream such as anarchism or communism is just simply too unrealistic. I also realized in this world with some hard work and high expectations you can really do anything it just what you make of your future and what choices you make.

So my question to you all is how many of you have jobs and if you do realy ass busting 40 hours a week jobs?

[Refugee from Earth]

Im in ur suprmrkts

choppin ur fish

The vast majority of my friends also have jobs (I have some friends who are jobless hippy layabouts though, and we get on fine). Of course you need a wage to pay rent, eat, enjoy yourself, that doesn't come to the same thing as loving capitalism though. I dislike the attitude of "people in the real world don't have an interest in changing things or politics at all". The only difference is that people with jobs have less time to chat on the internet.

[Jazzratt]

I got a job recently. Having money is okay but it doesn't really make up for how shit capitalism is. Oh yeah, unemployment sucks donkey cock.

Anyway this crap is for OI.

[Mujer Libre]

I also realized in this world with some hard work and high expectations you can really do anything it just what you make of your future and what choices you make.
You're kidding right? Try telling that to the majority of people of the world who are stuck in work that pays them a pittance and offers no prospect for upliftment at all, just one day after another of drudgery.

In what way is communism unrealistic? A long way off, perhaps, but unrealistic? It sounds to me like you only decided that once you became a greedy bastard who forgot about how bad life is for most people in the world under capitalism. It's the old, "Oh, I have it good now, so fuck everybody else."

Armchair is right.

Edit: Yes, I do work. During semester I'm a full time student (with hours that may start at 7.30am and finish at 5pm) and work a casual job. At the moment I'm a full-time holiday researcher and get paid next to nothing.

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[Bright Banana Beard]

I used to consider myself a leftist anarchist whatever. Then I got a job and something changed I realized how much I love MONEY! Yes thats right a commie pinko sold out to get that guap. Why you ask? because I realized that a dream such as anarchism or communism is just simply too unrealistic. I also realized in this world with some hard work and high expectations you can really do anything it just what you make of your future and what choices you make.

So my question to you all is how many of you have jobs and if you do realy ass busting 40 hours a week jobs?


You are lucky to have a job, because in my place there is barely anything to find one and my downside is my hard of hearing which means I can't communicate well with any customer. However my parents do not have any education degree that could improve their wage. Immigration always get lower job because their eco status unless their school recommends someone to any company. This capitalist system gives more money whoever is more experienced in the field and he/she can't fuck up a thing so they can gain raise or stay the same. Sadly, not all of them do and my place is experiencing economic downside as many job getting layoff already. However, wages is very unfair here and the safety is minimum due to the price. But damn you got a job.

[Jimmie Higgins]

I have 2 jobs about 50 hours a week depending on how many hours they offer at my second job. It's a really good set up for the employers because by offering jobs less than full time, they don't have to give me any benefits. I've been out of college for about 10 years and have just now been able to pay off the debts from that.

I'm glad you were lucky enough to get a good job - most people don't have that chance. Maybe you should try being less assholish about it so when the economy crashes and you wouldn't have alienated yourself from your fellow workers.

2 jobs just means I hate capitalism twice as much.

[Cmde. Slavyanski]

There's so much fucked up about that guy's post I don't know where to begin. Does he not realize that in socialism and Communism- he who doesn't work, doesn't eat? People don't become socialists because they don't want to work- they do it because we want to first of all have job security, and we want a political system run in our interests.

[kromando33]

Lol, wait a minute you actually participate in the compulsory system of exchange you were born into and had no choice in!!1 (shock horror)

I am a uni student but I occasionally work in retail stuff to supplement my youth allowance.

[Axel1917]

I work 40 hours a week as a janitor, Monday through Friday. I am annoyed by it due to my work schedule, every weekday from 2:00 pm until 10:30 pm (half hour lunch break factored in.), as I miss a lot of opportunities for getting more involved in anti-war meetings, rallies, organizational things, etc.

My current pay is not very good, as I only make a little under US $27K per year, although a raise to $33K per year is not too far away. As long as a future recession does not mess things up too badly, I should be making around $40K per year three years from now. It definitely pays to be unionized! I worked as a non-union janitor for three years, and this union job started me at more than I was making after three years at the old job!

Cleaning things is not fun, but college is a waste of time and money (many spend years and tens of thousands of dollars while getting good grades and a degree, only to wind up working in a grocery store or as a janitor. Not to mention that getting a college degree job, in a good deal of cases, relies on kissing some manager's ass, not actual skill.), and this job will eventually get me a decent wage. I would like to get into evolutionary biology and perhaps something in foreign languages and linguistics, but only socialism can guarantee me a job in such fields.

[Wanted Man]

So what do you do, AF? Joke's probably on you, because some other son of a ***** is still earning a thousand times as much. I know your kind, I see them every day as college's status as "left wing breeding ground" becomes weaker every day. They manage to scrape in a bit of money (through a shitty job, or perhaps by setting up some kind of internet business), and with a bit of bad luck, they soon become able to afford Polo Ralph Lauren shirts.

When they put on these monstrosities, things start sliding downhill. They consider themselves part of "the elite", even though they are still slaving away on basic math and Dutch language tests in Ed-school, because they're too stupid to construct sentences that mean anything. They willingly undergo hazing to be part of a supercool boys' club that we call "fraternity", and they might even do some actual "work" in the form of campaigning for the Liberal party. Their biggest dream? To someday attend a boring-as-fuck "Millionaire Fair".

So yeah, money kicks ass. Especially when you don't earn particularly much, yet still manage to piss it all away on useless crap and become a gigantic asshole in the process.

[black magick hustla]

i doubt that you have that much money if you are 18 unless mommy and daddy transfered you lots of money

[Raúl Duke]

You do know that the capitalism does not intend on having everyone hired and working?

To them, Full employment is enough employment to reach a level that reaches enough around potential GDP. They don't want to make beyond potential GDP because it has the habit of increasing inflation. SO, they don't want everyone to work.

[MT5678]

Me: I'm a student.

Yeah, capitalism intends to keep people unemployed. They can be used as scabs! This happened all the time in the late 1800s in the US (see Homestead 1892, Pullman 1894, and many more). And if workers start wanting more wages, they can always call in the unemployed.

(the OP is sarcastic, right?)

[JimmyJazz]

The OP is right, leftist politics are totally inconsistent with being a member of the working class. Never in history have the two things coincided in one person.

I'm a full-time Master's student and I also work.

[Die Neue Zeit]

The OP is right, leftist politics are totally inconsistent with being a member of the working class. Never in history have the two things coincided in one person.

I'm a full-time Master's student and I also work.

What the hell are you talking about? :rolleyes: I work (thankfully I'm NOT underemployed anymore, as Axel above alluded to in regards to college students being janitors) and already have post-secondary education under my belt (with more coming, too). Oh, and that "post-secondary education" is NOT in the "arts and humanities" (including "political science"), so I'm not a stereotypical "college leftist."

[Cult of Reason]

I am a university student studying Computer Science at the moment and, despite the fact I know it will hurt my future job prospects, I am avoiding work for as long as I possibly can.

[The Feral Underclass]

I used to consider myself a leftist anarchist whatever.

Yeah but you weren't though were you, really...


Then I got a job and something changed I realized how much I love MONEY!

People don't really go from being anarchists to loving money. If you really understood the politics in the first place suddenly "loving money" wouldn't really happen. I mean, you were never really serious about politics anyway and are just another example of a kid who played at being an anarchist as youth.

It's quite a common occurance and not very interest.

[The Feral Underclass]

The OP is right, leftist politics are totally inconsistent with being a member of the working class. Never in history have the two things coincided in one person.

That's the most ridiculous claim that has ever been made. So basically what you're saying is that never, in the history of mankind has someone who believes in "leftist politics" been a worker?

Come on, that's just a stupid thing to say. Especially when you actually look at the history of revolutionary politics...

[Zurdito]

I became a communist when I dropped out of uni at 18 and started working for peanuts,getting up at 6am to get to East London by 8am, and noticing that even though I was working for a train company, most of my colleagues (post-room) couldn;t afford to get the train. The other postie had previously worked for nationalised British Rail, and when it was privatised, he lost his job and was re-hired through a contractor without his pension, without free train travel and on a lower wage. He was the luckiest one; the others were all immgirant workers on minimum wage.

How could I not become a commie. :D

I'm at uni now though, but still stay true to the working class.

As for the OP: you were probably one of those emotionalistic "counter-culture" type wierdos that often troll these boards. No wonder you dropped it when you got a nice job. There are lots of people like that especially int he anarchist movement, who only want a release for their angst, and never really cared about anyone else. When they work out they can get laid by driving a nice car and having a fat pay check, out comes the suit and away go the eyelid piercings. Go fuck yourself, loser!

[Cmde. Slavyanski]

This guy definitely sounds like one of those suburban kids who get into whatever counter-culture crap can help them assuage the guilt they have over their privilege. Just like those white kinds from the suburbs that get into Eminem because he whines about not having a Dad and what not.

And since everyone else is giving their resume, I worked at internet tech support from 14-16, joined the army at 17, then worked for a few months in a sand and gravel mine/asphalt plant, in a metal polishing shop, and finally started a 3 year career in the engineering consultant business as a technician before training to become a teacher and moving overseas. I might know a little something about work Mr. Hot Topic Anarchist!

[FireFry]

Having a job is of course nice, but the blind affection for money isn't, especially if you aren't schooled in economics.

Money is only as good as what you can buy with it. Is a DVD Player good? Is a Computer good? Is food good? Is having an apartment good? Of course.

But, you have to also realise, at least in stealth, that our system is saturated with hubris, that the bourgois; our bosses and the wealthy capitalisers think they can get away with deviant behavior that works counter to the interests of you, the worker.

This is where communism arrives with a solution, it's one of many proposed solutions to the deviant behavior of the rich, and we think it's the best one. Communism says, you can't own the office, you can't own the factory, you can't own the machines in these places, why? Because that involves the ability to subjugate the labor of others, seen as wage slavery.

Communism encourages a co-op labor force, a compassioned labor force that is driven by its own ethics of socialization. Eventually, the labor force will unite and decide that they aren't going to need to the wealthy later. And what happens then? Revolution.

And of course, the winds of current trends seems to point our society's sails in that direction, towards the rising sun, towards communism and socialization and if we go far enough even anarchy.

Sounds awful nice, doesn't it? It's not a dream worth sacrificing for DVD players and Large Television Sets, is it?

OK, put it down at the bottom of your to-do list, but remember, us dogs will have our day.

[RGacky3]

I work 32 hours a week, to me the idea of working 5 days to enjoy 2 is insane, and inhuman. I try my best to work 4 days to enjoy 3, but cost of living is starting to make that very hard. I work as a Draftsman, not a bad job, but like any white collar job, does eat away at your soul everynow and then.


This guy definitely sounds like one of those suburban kids who get into whatever counter-culture crap can help them assuage the guilt they have over their privilege.

Its easier to be a Revolutoinary when you start from nothing, and have nothing to loose than it is to start from wealth and become one out of a Moral Obligation.

[blackstone]

9Am-6PM
and get paid a crap salary.

I hate it so bad, i want the revolution to happen yesterday. :(

[JimmyJazz]

The OP is right, leftist politics are totally inconsistent with being a member of the working class. Never in history have the two things coincided in one person.


What the hell are you talking about? :rolleyes: I work


That's the most ridiculous claim that has ever been made.

Unless you guys are joking, I can only say I'm stunned at your inability to pick up sarcasm.

[black magick hustla]

btw if you thought anarchism/commyunism/whateverism was about hating money you didnt "get it" to begin with, and your politics were nothing more than red christianity

[Dr Mindbender]

I used to consider myself a leftist anarchist whatever. Then I got a job and something changed I realized how much I love MONEY! Yes thats right a commie pinko sold out to get that guap. Why you ask? because I realized that a dream such as anarchism or communism is just simply too unrealistic. I also realized in this world with some hard work and high expectations you can really do anything it just what you make of your future and what choices you make.

So my question to you all is how many of you have jobs and if you do realy ass busting 40 hours a week jobs?
yes, i have an ass busting 40 hour a week minimum wage job and i do a distance learning university course in my spare time just to try and meet the expectations of your beloved status quo so fuck you, traitor.

[Dean]

I used to consider myself a leftist anarchist whatever. Then I got a job and something changed I realized how much I love MONEY! Yes thats right a commie pinko sold out to get that guap. Why you ask? because I realized that a dream such as anarchism or communism is just simply too unrealistic. I also realized in this world with some hard work and high expectations you can really do anything it just what you make of your future and what choices you make.

So my question to you all is how many of you have jobs and if you do realy ass busting 40 hours a week jobs?

I do, and it has strenghtened my communist views. I've worked 70 hour work weeks, and made plenty of money before - which was quickly wasted on bills, gas, etc.

You can be a little sell out ***** all you want, and try to justify your opinion by having a 40hr job, but when it comes down to it, a person who busts their ass digging trenches, laying conduit and pulling wire commands just as much respect for their work as any other person.

[The Feral Underclass]

Unless you guys are joking, I can only say I'm stunned at your inability to pick up sarcasm.

Sarcasm is a form of wit that relies on intonation. You can't really write sarcasm...

Anyway, it was a triumph of humour and I feel ashamed at not realising.

[Dean]

I am a university student studying Computer Science at the moment and, despite the fact I know it will hurt my future job prospects, I am avoiding work for as long as I possibly can.
Definitely the way to do it. The couple years I went to school between construction were probably the greatest of my life (followed by the worst of my life, being kicked out of my house and thrown in jail by a newly-rich father). But yeah, enjoy not working for as long as you can. The only thing jobs are good for is money, and that's hardly worth it anyways.

[Kami]

I had a job, a few months ago. At an office with a bank.
I've almost stopped having panic attacks now, and am about ready to re-intigrate with human society.

[JimmyJazz]

btw if you thought anarchism/commyunism/whateverism was about hating money you didnt "get it" to begin with, and your politics were nothing more than red christianity

QFT. It's about the power that attends ownership. If it was just about cash, leftists would harp on the Paris Hiltons of the world--but they don't. She doesn't employ anybody, so she doesn't enter into their analysis.


Sarcasm is a form of wit that relies on intonation. You can't really write sarcasm...

Anyway, it was a triumph of humour and I feel ashamed at not realising.

Perhaps the second sentence is sarcasm, but I wouldn't know without some intonation. :)

Anyway, since we are in OI, I can see how someone might have thought I was bein' serious.

[Forward Union]

Then I got a job and something changed I realized how much I love MONEY

I love money to. But I tell you what I do hate; my boss, and the fact that I actually earn more than I am paid. I bet when you think about it, you probably aren't too fond of you manager either, and I bet you'll find that anything isn't possible in capitalism, not everyone can be the boss mate ;)



So my question to you all is how many of you have jobs and if you do realy ass busting 40 hours a week jobs


I work 38 hours a week in a hospital. What do you do?

[Jazzratt]

So yeah, money kicks ass. Especially when you don't earn particularly much, yet still manage to piss it all away on useless crap and become a gigantic asshole in the process.

To be fair whenever I get a little money I piss it all away on useless crap (booze) and become a gigantic asshole (by drinking too much of it at once).

[Digitalism]

You're kidding right? Try telling that to the majority of people of the world who are stuck in work that pays them a pittance and offers no prospect for upliftment at all, just one day after another of drudgery.

And to back up your arguement...my mom is pretty much like that. Wakes up at 7am goes to work, comes back home around 7pm. Every single day I hear about how she's always bombarded with work at the office, disrespected by her superiors who tell her "Oh you're doing this wrong" She comes home crying and keeps telling me "it's okay though, I'll get through this"...That's capitalism for you. Absolutely no respect for another human being.

[Dr Mindbender]

..judging by the way the OP has failed to materialise a reply of any description, I'm guessing this thread was intended as another drive-by trolling. As such, I think an admin should trash it.

[Cmde. Slavyanski]

And to back up your arguement...my mom is pretty much like that. Wakes up at 7am goes to work, comes back home around 7pm. Every single day I hear about how she's always bombarded with work at the office, disrespected by her superiors who tell her "Oh you're doing this wrong" She comes home crying and keeps telling me "it's okay though, I'll get through this"...That's capitalism for you. Absolutely no respect for another human being.


Just like Moscow, people have contempt for everyone else here. They generally just use one another. And when you are talking to someone about social consciousness, they look at you like you are from Mars. Sometimes I want to grab them by the neck and scream: "I LOVE RUSSIA MORE THAN YOU! DO YOU SEE ANYTHING WRONG WITH THIS SITUATION?!"

With the power in Moscow and the attitudes it fosters, I don't believe we'll have a revolution here first- it will have to be in those FSU states that got screwed over the most. I hope for some kind of join Ukrainian-Belorussian Union that can challenge Moscow.

[Cmde. Slavyanski]

..judging by the way the OP has failed to materialise a reply of any description, I'm guessing this thread was intended as another drive-by trolling. As such, I think an admin should trash it.

No we should keep it, because a lot of people came in here and contributed good stories about what working life is like. There's a lot of young, usually middle class people, who don't understand what this is all about.

[Dr Mindbender]

No we should keep it, because a lot of people came in here and contributed good stories about what working life is like. There's a lot of young, usually middle class people, who don't understand what this is all about.
someone should create a split thread then.

This thread was started in an obnoxious intent to create contention and the longer it survives the more we feed the troll.

[Jazzratt]

This thread was started in an obnoxious intent to create contention and the longer it survives the more we feed the troll.

If it fucked off, how are we "feeding" it?

[Dr Mindbender]

If it fucked off, how are we "feeding" it?
its a point of principal. We sit here in front of our computers in a hissy fit, while young joe bloggs there can fuck with with that warm fuzzy feeling knowing that he's made a bunch of lefties go all into a huff.

[Luís Henrique]

A "good" one, and I have been in it for almost 17 years.

Luís Henrique

[Dean]

its a point of principal. We sit here in front of our computers in a hissy fit, while young joe bloggs there can fuck with with that warm fuzzy feeling knowing that he's made a bunch of lefties go all into a huff.

I disagree. I have enjoyed reading what jobs people have, and how they feel about them & their relation to their communist / socialist value systems. I think this thread is one of the better ones currently active in OI.

[Davie zepeda]

work is good i like working what i hate is working for some fagot who wants you to be lazy and not work just because you work harder doesn't give you the right to say lie's and shit and get my hours cut.

I think the fact i worked at a beer and wine store and rather than tell people to drink i told them to get there lives on track and that pissed them off.
lol they knew i was a commie so it's hard to work with people who give you a hard time and try to bring you down .
i was working 7 days a week 5hours nothing hard but they cut my hours as soon as said fuck you to my boss calling me an idiot but i don't care you treat me like a person not a animal. fucking ass hole lol just because i brought one less 12pack .

one thing i learned from school and work you got to show that your stupid because if you show them you have a high knowledge of things and im being serious they treat you as a threat lol. While in law class my teacher said hope you never get in power your way to rebellious lol i was wtf the point of usa is to always challenge the norms and to reach beyond what we can do if the government no longer tends to the needs of the people then the people have the right to continue which was started in 1800 hundreds always intell a government for the people by the people is in power remember united states is the a major war this is where the cap take haven and when we take there haven away they will have no where to run but under the peoples boots!

[MarxSchmarx]

I'm probably one of the few people on this board who loves their job. Admittedly the pay sucks. But I genuinely enjoy what I do, and have no compunction spending my entire waking day on my work.

Yes, I wish I got paid more. Yes, I can't support my extended family on what I earn. Yes, there is a lot of bullshit viz. administration and management. But I have enough money left over for booze, gifts for my nieces and nephew, and the occasional vacation. And at the end of the day, I don't let pencil pushers ruin my work.

In fact, having a job I enjoy has made me MORE of a leftist. It helped me realize how kick-ass it would be if we all did what we are good at and what we enjoy.

[Die Neue Zeit]

I'm probably one of the few people on this board who loves their job. Admittedly the pay sucks. But I genuinely enjoy what I do, and have no compunction spending my entire waking day on my work.

Yes, I wish I got paid more. Yes, I can't support my extended family on what I earn. Yes, there is a lot of bullshit viz. administration and management. But I have enough money left over for booze, gifts for my nieces and nephew, and the occasional vacation. And at the end of the day, I don't let pencil pushers ruin my work.

In fact, having a job I enjoy has made me MORE of a leftist. It helped me realize how kick-ass it would be if we all did what we are good at and what we enjoy.

Here, here! I love my job too, and IMO my pay does NOT "suck." I must admit, however, I'm not as fanatical in terms of spending an entire day at work as you are. ;)

Oh yeah, that last remark applies to me, too, especially after my previous situation of underemployment.

[Mujer Libre]

work is good i like working what i hate is working for some fagot

Please don't use homophobic language on the forums.

[dark fairy]

i have a job
i work in an ice cream
i drive around selling kids ice cream
it's ok.
but there is damn near no profit...

[The Feral Underclass]

You work in an Ice cream? That's amazing. Does it not get a bit sticky?

Interesting bit of information for ya, dark fairy - Malatesta was an ice cream salesman.

[Nakidana]

i work in an ice cream

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/3610/vlcsnap74305xz6.png

:D

Seriously though, I'm a student. :)

[Refugee from Earth]

I'm probably one of the few people on this board who loves their job. Admittedly the pay sucks. But I genuinely enjoy what I do, and have no compunction spending my entire waking day on my work.

Yes, I wish I got paid more. Yes, I can't support my extended family on what I earn. Yes, there is a lot of bullshit viz. administration and management. But I have enough money left over for booze, gifts for my nieces and nephew, and the occasional vacation. And at the end of the day, I don't let pencil pushers ruin my work.

In fact, having a job I enjoy has made me MORE of a leftist. It helped me realize how kick-ass it would be if we all did what we are good at and what we enjoy.

I also enjoy my job. But I have been trying now for years to get full time hours and it is never going to happen. I owe lots of money to the bank and to my landlord. I have to leave, and I hate it. On the other hand, the main reasons why I love my job (the two most amazing co-workers ever) are also going to be leaving by June, so it's probably just as well that I'll be going too. Otherwise I'd be stuck with management trainee boy (he has no personality, no sense of humour, only love for the company... he makes me feel ill) and the older ladies who are nice but only ever talk about the weather.

[Comeback Kid]

kitchen steward. lowest of the low.
Its fun because I have mad chefin skills. and babes love that.

[Digitalism]

Malangyar, what film/documentary is that capture from?

[Digitalism]

Well, since "coming to america" I've really worked two physical jobs during my teen/adolescent years.

one was in a restaurant in a small humid room with 5 other guys washing dishes for 7 bucks an hour, being treated like shit by the cooks as well as "fellow" dishwasher boys who constantly poked fun at my accent and called me a "dirty Russian"

then I also worked for a guy who exploited my labor while he raked in $ as I worked graveyard shifts with 3 to 4 other guys for measly $25, stripping + waxing supermarket's floors..EVERY DAY A NEW SUPERMARKET. Max sleep I was getting was 5 hours a night.

yes, the money for the SECOND job were a lot better than the first, or anything that I can make back HOME NOW, After the USSR. But that's no excuse to put up with such physical abuse. I was pretty much SLAVE LABOR to him.

right now I'm in community college getting by and hopefully going to work at the library for 8 bucks an hour.

[Nakidana]

Malangyar, what film/documentary is that capture from?

It's from the somewhat anti-communist movie Huozhe (aka To Live) by Yimou Zhang. Watch it for the drama not the politics. ;)

[Digitalism]

It's from the somewhat anti-communist movie Huozhe (aka To Live) by Yimou Zhang. Watch it for the drama not the politics. ;)

Yeah I've heard of this one, it's actually on my "to see list" along with everything else he has done. How is he received over there in China (i'm assuming that's where you're from?)

[EneME]

case worker for high risk families that have been referred to child protective services...

i'm paid for 40, but i usually have to do more..

[Nakidana]

Yeah I've heard of this one, it's actually on my "to see list" along with everything else he has done. How is he received over there in China (i'm assuming that's where you're from?)

I'm not Chinese, but I do know that the movie is banned in Mainland China (Although you can get pirate copies) and that Yimou was suspended from making movies for a period after its release.

As for public opinion of him in China...I don't know. He seems to be very popular with the Western critics though. :)

[graffic]

I work part time in a pub washing up. All of us washing up get treated like shit by the chefs and get paid about a 1/3rd as much as the chefs per hour - £4.50. The landlord has got it all worked out so he earns a nice fat living from doing basically nothing. The pub is aimed at people who drive mercedes and will pay £12 for a fish cake, and the staff get paid fuck all - hence why the landlord makes a lot of money

[Jazzratt]

I think the fact i worked at a beer and wine store and rather than tell people to drink i told them to get there lives on track and that pissed them off.

Yeah if some do gooder **** said something like that to me, I'd tell them to stop sticking their fucking prissy nose in my business.

[Freedom4Tooting]

I have a full time job, I'm not taking social benefits of those that need it more.... but earning money has not changed my anarchist views - I just need to work to live in the system that exists today (of course I am fortunate that I would survive without a job - but I'm not doing that as I explained in the first line) - doesn't mean I like the system I'm stuck in.

[RedAnarchist]

I'm a university student doing IT. I'll be finishing in May, but don't know what I'm going to do after that.

[chimx]

I'm a union roofer. I primarily do commercial flat roofs: EPDM/PVC/TPO/Hypalon membrane roofs that are welded or adhered together, as well as Hot tar roofs and modified roofs. Occasionally I also do below-grade water proofing and other types of water proofing as well.

It pays pretty well. My current rate is $20/hr, but I should be getting at least $2 in raises in the next six months. I also get medical and vacation benefits, and a pension.

[luxemburg89]

I used to consider myself a leftist anarchist whatever. Then I got a job and something changed I realized how much I love MONEY! Yes thats right a commie pinko sold out to get that guap. Why you ask? because I realized that a dream such as anarchism or communism is just simply too unrealistic. I also realized in this world with some hard work and high expectations you can really do anything it just what you make of your future and what choices you make.

So my question to you all is how many of you have jobs and if you do realy ass busting 40 hours a week jobs?

:scared: How dare your parents breed and create you? The bastards! I'm a full-time student. I study Literature and work BLOODY hard on that thank-you-very-much - I can safely say that your post is a disgrace to the English language and the fact you are so idiotic really offends me as a fellow human being. I am well-aware you're not reading this but really I am sick and fucking tired of people like you that live for, rather than on, money and judge others accordingly. You should be banned for being an utter moron, let alone restricted.

[Marsella]

So my question to you all is how many of you have jobs and if you do realy ass busting 40 hours a week jobs?

I miss the days when I only worked 40 hours.

I work shifts (at the moment) from 3:30 AM - 1:30 PM. At the very least that is 50 hours a week, not including travel time, getting ready for work.

That's about 9:30 hours a day unloading trucks.

At first we weren't even told what we were unloading that day - management was basically afraid that we knew the value of what we were unloading and would demand higher wages.

Soon enough that changed.

We calculated that we unload up to $19,000 worth of good daily.

Now I unload trucks with dairy products, food stuffs etc. Can you imagine the value of product in technology industries? I mean, some plasma screen TVs cost up to $15,000 alone!

But hey, all is good and well - I just got a 50 cent payrise (I kid you not!).

But I consider myself well off - I have a place to live, enough food in the fridge, enough to enjoy life. And I work with friends.

But how could I not become a communist?