U.S. officials accuse Hugo Chavez in Cocaine trade..

[R_P_A_S]

wow. this fucking guy. check out the story from the BBC.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7198768.stm

I find it amusing how this guy can't catch a break with the U.S. damn.

[Holden Caulfield]

people in glass houses shouldnt throw drug accusations around,

i think the Americans mights have a bit of a drug problem themselves, especially in the strong hold of anti-Chavez-ism: Miami,

its the same type of one way thinking that plauges american politics, Venezuela has a drugs trade, (yeah but so does America), Iranian foreign policy makes the situation worse in the middle east, (so does Americas/Israels)

its just an excuse to use so they can 'justify' what ever bullshit plan they cook up next

[spartan]

It obviously isnt true but even if it was, i simply dont understand the big deal that these politicians put on it?

What difference would it make if Chavez was allowing Venezuelan ports to be a part of the drug trade?

You can hardly use it as justification for war!

Good on Chavez if he is doing it, as there is a demand for cocaine and all he is doing is providing it to people who should have the right to take it if that is what they want.

[R_P_A_S]

It obviously isnt true but even if it was, i simply dont understand the big deal that these politicians put on it?

What difference would it make if Chavez was allowing Venezuelan ports to be a part of the drug trade?

You can hardly use it as justification for war!

Good on Chavez if he is doing it, as there is a demand for cocaine and all he is doing is providing it to people who should have the right to take it if that is what they want.

you talk as if Cocaine is water.. wtf?

[spartan]

you talk as if Cocaine is water.. wtf?

Well we have to face facts here.

I would say that about 20% or more of people in the western world has experimented or even become a regular drug user at one point in their lives.

Now its their right to do that, though in most western countries the law on drugs is strict (Thus the illegal side of things start springing up to supply the illegal drugs to the users).

Would it not be far easier to just legalize all or most recreational drugs so that criminals wont be able to make money off of it anymore?

[bootleg42]

Anyway, it's obvious that he's not doing this and it's not true.

[Le Libérer]

Does anyone here know what the drug laws are in Venezuela? I wonder if they are as tough as they are in Cuba. It seems to me, illicit drugs like cocaine would be intolerable.

[SouthernBelle82]

I guess that's what happens when you offer cheap oil to the US and keep all the oil profits for your own country. Heh heh. Sad really. I wouldn't believe this personally with the bias reporting and "fact checking." Now if it was Russia or Germany maybe.

[SouthernBelle82]

Yep. The CIA during the 80's. If it wasn't for Gary Webb and John Kerry we wouldn't know about it.


people in glass houses shouldnt throw drug accusations around,

i think the Americans mights have a bit of a drug problem themselves, especially in the strong hold of anti-Chavez-ism: Miami,

its the same type of one way thinking that plauges american politics, Venezuela has a drugs trade, (yeah but so does America), Iranian foreign policy makes the situation worse in the middle east, (so does Americas/Israels)

its just an excuse to use so they can 'justify' what ever bullshit plan they cook up next

[ComradeR]

So the US is continuing to build their case against Venezuela. This drug trade accusation is reminiscent of their justification to invade Panama.
So i suppose this means Chavez is now a "drug baron" like Noriega was? :rolleyes:

[metalero]

Another stupid provocation from U.S. officers while visiting their lackey Uribe in Colombia, a state run by narco-paramilitaries.

[Ismail]

Well we have to face facts here.Indeed. A majority of drug users especially in the Central/South American region are poor and if they're willing to possibly get shot/arrested (into Central/South American prisons) for drugs, most likely addicted already. Say what you want about marijuana (which is a petty-bourgeois obsession), but cocaine isn't minor.

[jake williams]

Does anyone here know what the drug laws are in Venezuela? I wonder if they are as tough as they are in Cuba. It seems to me, illicit drugs like cocaine would be intolerable.
I don't remember anything specific, but I do remember a report or two about Chavistas getting pissed because he even came out against alcohol. He's not exactly a cocaine baron. In fact, I can't for the life of me remember where, but I remember hearing third-hand about, I think it was a couple anti-Chávez British mercenaries working on his orders trying to clean up the drug trade - they made it explicit that although they didn't like him, it would be totally absurd to accuse him of not... playing is part in the "Drug War" or whatever.


I thought this was interesting/disturbing though:

"Colombia's relations with Venezuela have all but disintegrated amid fears that Mr Chavez
may start actively supporting Marxist guerrillas who are trying to overthrow the Colombian state."

[Ismail]

Chávez is a religious man and obviously bases his beliefs on liberation theology. They believe that Communism/Socialism is also about removing sin (well, as much as possible) from man. Ergo they aren't big on drugs, alcohol, and so on.

[RedAnarchist]

Communism is supposed to be about removing restrictions form the lives of working class people, not trying to convert them into monks and nuns.

[chimx]

lol. look at the photo the bbc used of him:

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44367000/jpg/_44367965_walters_ap203b.jpg

[Ismail]

Communism is supposed to be about removing restrictions form the lives of working class people, not trying to convert them into monks and nuns.Yes, but the Catholics that subscribe to liberation theology (like Chávez) don't necessarily share that opinion. They believe that Communism/Socialism can be used to create a sort of "heaven on earth" for them.