The politics of bad science

[peaccenicked]

Open Letter to the Press Complaints Commission: (American Chronicle (http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/viewArticle.asp?articleID=47975))
Carol J. R. Rae



January 5, 2008
This needs an urgent address and please do not say its outside your remit.The mear fact none of this is being address truthfully has allowed the government to believe its own spin... With scientists who get payed by the UK government reluctant to speak out while others are ignored and gagged. I have been to a meeting at The Royal Society in London. month ago even scientists at this meeting, don`t seem to be able to get info. out into the media.There is a deliberate suppression or so it seems by all the media...

Only articles published in The Royal Societies own Journal are considered as policy by the UK government.


The TV news and newspapers in general have fed us with false info on us over eating, and over eating causing health problems from diabetes to heart disease. Even drink lots of fluids is a false advice, could be bad for your health..
The diabetic association say that over eating is nothing, to do with diabetes.(People who are overweight might have diabetes, but its not a direct cause which is what some doctors even have been lead to think like. Its a genetic predispossession to the condition) The increase is not directly linked to food only that some thing may well of changed or aggravated the condition to occur sooner..(Electropollution is heavily implicated)


As for green issues, they are being muddled with a so called energy crises: Two presenters one Sat. Morning a few weeks ago, Breakfast BBC news cut a scientist short when he tried to say that Global warming was not being caused by increases in Carbon dioxide us humans were not able to do this much damage. (There`s a long list of scientists who tried to get this message over)Then the following day on Leslie Garrett's show on Sunday morning another interviewee was cut short when he said its not our Carbon dioxide causing Global Warming..


Science has known since the 1930`s that the Earth was going to tilt near the Sun (Arthur Mee`s Encyclopaedia):Its that and Sun Spots that`s causing global warming....(As the planet has always got hotter and colder).


We are being taxed for things that are due to natural phenomena.

While industry does what it likes..Buying green products and re-cycling our rubbish will make very little difference..


The fuel crises is due to the UK government not wanting to be beholden to Russian; not the fact there is no real fuel crises...... If one try`s to tell the media they just carry on spouting the same lies.

Wind Turbines are not Green Energy neather are they power effeicient. Thereby not a solution. The government is forcing councils to give them planning permission under force pretences.


A number of well known scientists at this meeting I went to at the Royal Society have been trying to raise the issue of electropollution and mobile phones causing real harm to our mind and body.. Which we for generations to come will quite possibility genetically never get over.. We will be permanently damaged with out basic biochemistry changed, so we will all become more sensitively to mobile phone radiation; as well as that of the Sun, telling us to put more Sun cream on, and a higher factor will not cure..


There has just been an announcement in the news this week children are not getting enough Sun in the UK to form Vitamin D hence they are getting Rickets...

I am wondering what idiot or idiots are telling us not to go out in the Sun, one moment then tell us our kids have Rickets something not known since the 1940`s..


Then saying mobile phones are safe, The BBC News reported two stories from the University of Essex in that mobile phones were considered safe..... They made a big thing of it.....Yet a few weeks earlier interviewed a suffer of electropollution in her own home..

Who was able to tell if the mobile phone was off or on.. ......

She was put through as part of the University of Essex research yet they then denied that there was anyone able to tell if the phone was on or off.


A team of psychologists, not anyone with a degree in electrical engineering performed the tests..The individuals that were sensitive were made too ill so they could not carry on the tests...

So the BBC were proud to tell us mobile phones were safe.. On the basis of the people who completed the test were not electrically sensitive:



Or had not been exposed enough till they knowing got sick in otherwords...


The scientists I met a the Royal Society had proven that mobile phone masts turn our melatonin levels off...... And that our ability to respond to infection and cancer is reduced along with links to Alzheimer's as the level of Acetyl Choline levels are over stimulated to increase for a while then the level drops and Alzheimer's sets in..


The scientists who know are being gagged by the governments and the media.
We are being left in a dangerous situation.


I hope you can find someone to address this:


If any one else wishes to write to the Press complaints commission please do so.


http://www.pcc.org.uk/complaints/process.html (http://www.pcc.org.uk/complaints/process.html)

[FireFry]

The grammar could use a little sprucing up, but besides that he has some really good points; the ruling class cadre rarely use political justifications for anything anymore and point to "the green movement", "global warming" and the "energy crisis" for real political issues that are simply much broader than just words.

[jake williams]

It sounds like a lot of that is junk science, just skimming because it's difficult to read. Look, we need to have an open intellectual culture, but that doesn't change the fact that it's basically just pure propaganda to suggest that climate change isn't almost certainly caused, to the extent we've observed it, by human activity.

[peaccenicked]

It sounds like a lot of that is junk science, just skimming because it's difficult to read. Look, we need to have an open intellectual culture, but that doesn't change the fact that it's basically just pure propaganda to suggest that climate change isn't almost certainly caused, to the extent we've observed it, by human activity.

The point is,comrade, that every other thesis has been gagged, it might come as a shock but Nasa says its getting colder (http://www.spaceandscience.net/id16.html)

[jake williams]

I disagree - if anything, every other thesis has been greatly exaggerated. It is certainly possible that virtually every legitimate expert is wrong, and look, I don't think we should ignore this possibility, should stop for a minute keeping it as a fundamental part of our analysis. That's just how science should always operate.

How science shouldn't operate is through various energy companies and hyperconservative thinktanks and so forth basically bribing marginal figures to act like there's a real "debate" about this in the legitimate sense, i.e. that there is actual meaningful balance of available evidence on differing propositions. There's more debate about whether or not bacon is healthy.

While one shouldn't succumb to ad hom attacks, when virtually the only people saying X have a severe vested interest in the population believing that X is true, whereas the vast majority of legitimate experts all agree on the extreme likelihood of a rough collective of statements contradicting X... one doesn't generally believe X unless one has extremely good reasons too.

[peaccenicked]

I am skeptical of the ''omnipotence" of science. There are vested interests on both sides of the debate and instant red cards for one view are not good enough for me. There is a whole industry made out of climate change which has secured the status of political correctness. This practice smells like Stalinism.
It makes great sense to me that the movement of sunspots can effect the earth's climate, simply because I dont like people standing in front of the fire when its cold and bloocking out the heat.

As to NASA I dont think it is that biased (http://www.giss.nasa.gov/research/briefs/matthews_01/). While I believe pollution does exist it does not look to be as capable of such things that would disempower the sun.

[Invader Zim]

The point is,comrade, that every other thesis has been gagged, it might come as a shock but Nasa says its getting colder (http://www.spaceandscience.net/id16.html)

Getting Colder?

http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs/Fig.A.lrg.gif

Last Updated yesterday, and guess where I found that graph! Thats right boys and girls, on the NASA website.

perhaps you mean it will get colder at some point in the future, not that it is getting colder; because research - published on the NASA website among others - clearly shows that at the present time it is actually getting steadily warmer.

[peaccenicked]

They are simply saying the heatwave is over.

[Wilfred]

Why don't you read realclimate.org or study and get a MSc in meteorology and then complain? Global warming is a real threat.

[jake williams]

I am skeptical of the ''omnipotence" of science.
Skepticism in the strict sense is good, but the truth is I'm skeptical of skeptics of science.

Science and academia generally have all sorts of institutional flaws, assuredly, no one ever talks much about the economics of academic institutions and intellectuals, beyond flat-out corporate sponsorship. But this certainly doesn't invalidate science per se, whose theoretical merits are, I would think/hope, self-evident.

The merits of "science" as institutions have developed, and as they exist today, that's certainly a different question. Nevertheless, no better mechanisms exist for exploring these sorts of questions. Capitalist propaganda, "hope", and "hunches" are not valid methods for analyzing and understanding, say, the environment - period.

[peaccenicked]

Given the importance of the next climate change Casey was asked whether the government has been notified. “Yes, as soon as my research revealed these solar cycles and the prediction of the coming cold era with the next climate change, I notified all the key offices in the Bush administration including both parties in the Senate and House science committees as well as most of the nation’s media outlets. Unfortunately, because of the intensity of coverage of the UN IPCC and man made global warming during 2007, the full story about climate change is very slow in getting told. These changes in the sun have begun. They are unstoppable. With the word finally starting to get out about the next climate change, hopefully we will have time to prepare. Right now, the newly organized SSRC is the leading independent research center in the US and possibly worldwide, that is focused on the next climate change. Some of the world’s brightest scientists, also experts in solar physics and the next climate change have joined with me. In the meantime we will do our best to spread the word along with NASA and others who can see what is about to take place for the Earth’s climate. Soon, I believe this will be recognized as the most important climate story of this century.”



Are you guys saying this scientist should be gagged?

[Rosa Lichtenstein]

Shouldn't this be in science?

[peaccenicked]

I was not sure but it is a very big issue

[peaccenicked]

Breakfast BBC news cut a scientist short when he tried to say that Global warming was not being caused by increases in Carbon dioxide us humans were not able to do this much damage. (There`s a long list of scientists who tried to get this message over)Then the following day on Leslie Garrett's show on Sunday morning another interviewee was cut short when he said its not our Carbon dioxide causing Global Warming



The thread was to be about gagging rather than science