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Psy
10th January 2008, 20:50
Bootlegging of intellectual property has been growing as it becomes easier to get movies, music and software through file sharing sites then through legal means. As this grows I wonder, how will capitalism respond to part of the market dropping out the capitalist mode of distribution due to advances of technology? The only solutions capitalist have come out is using technology to combat piracy but it seems hackers are always one step ahead of the security capitalists through in front of them. I don't think capitalists could ever hope to win a war with hackers through technology, simple due to the fact the capitalists need to their security to be perfect while the hacker only has to find one weakness that is exploitable.

What would be the next movie of capitalists if they fail to even slow down the growth of bootlegging?

The New Left
11th January 2008, 01:49
Easy, they find a new way to deliver it. The way seems to be digitally through a central data base, and the tunes are protected. However, this is even exploitable. The thing is that hacker know how to break something and exploited it, corporations know how to half ass something. Nothing can stop bootlegging, its gone to far already. They don't even bother going after individuals any more.
Now that I think about it, they could always challenge the laws that allow P2P sites to stay open by allowing illegal files pass through it. So I guess that's what could be next. They'll never stop, and neither will we.

bootleg42
11th January 2008, 02:34
What would be the next movie of capitalists if they fail to even slow down the growth of bootlegging?

None. My name says it all, lol.

Red October
11th January 2008, 02:38
As long as there is the internet, we will be able to upload stuff to it and download stuff from it. The way we do that may need to be adapted to stay ahead of the anti-pirating technology, but we'll still be able to do it. Every time the entertainment industry shuts down some free download service, another better one replaces it.

INDK
11th January 2008, 02:40
They can fine a few and catch a few here and there, but as long as we have the resources it'll never stop and they will never stop it.

Psy
11th January 2008, 02:59
As long as there is the internet, we will be able to upload stuff to it and download stuff from it. The way we do that may need to be adapted to stay ahead of the anti-pirating technology, but we'll still be able to do it. Every time the entertainment industry shuts down some free download service, another better one replaces it.

Yet sooner or later this would effect the larger economy and that means the state playing more of a role. Already there is talk of locking down computers as a solution (kinda of like game systems), but the problem is game systems still suffer from bootlegging as people simply modify the hardware, second people could still grab the analog single as a last resort since most people still have analog TVs thus their devices has to convert the single into a analog single so the TV can display it.

INDK
11th January 2008, 03:17
Yet sooner or later this would effect the larger economy and that means the state playing more of a role. Already there is talk of locking down computers as a solution (kinda of like game systems), but the problem is game systems still suffer from bootlegging as people simply modify the hardware, second people could still grab the analog single as a last resort since most people still have analog TVs thus their devices has to convert the single into a analog single so the TV can display it.

They won't do away with the computer industry so easily; remember, lots of people bootleg, even without knowing it; I'm sure there's a bunch of people using LimeWire that have no idea what they're doing. If they go locking down computers, they'll lose money and lots of it. Moreover, if those computer industries shut down other industries that rely on computers will crumble; Capitalists are to industry as Humans are to air.

Psy
11th January 2008, 03:29
They won't do away with the computer industry so easily; remember, lots of people bootleg, even without knowing it; I'm sure there's a bunch of people using LimeWire that have no idea what they're doing. If they go locking down computers, they'll lose money and lots of it. Moreover, if those computer industries shut down other industries that rely on computers will crumble; Capitalists are to industry as Humans are to air.
By locking down computers I meant they plan on putting lock out chips in new computer to verify if the computer is allowed to run the file/program in question, just like how video game systems check for special rings on the disc that can't be replicated in burners to very if the disc is valid. The problem is that lock out chips have been repeatedly broken by hardware modifications.

INDK
11th January 2008, 03:34
By locking down computers I meant they plan on putting lock out chips in new computer to verify if the computer is allowed to run the file/program in question, just like how video game systems check for special rings on the disc that can't be replicated in burners to very if the disc is valid. The problem is that lock out chips have been repeatedly broken by hardware modifications.

....Well that sucks.