Die Neue Zeit
1st January 2008, 19:21
I was inspired by Rosa's thread in Workers' Actions on workers' activity in China (http://www.revleft.com/index.php?showtopic=74405) and by one of the key points of Lars Lih's Lenin Rediscovered regarding the original "social democracy":
Originally posted by Me
Remember, the original idea behind "social democracy" was the merger of scientific socialism (then in its "Marxist" form) and the workers' movement! (http://www.socialistdemocracy.org/Reviews/ReviewLeninRediscoveredPart1.html)
This premise implies the separate origins of the socialist movement and the workers' movement, and since I read the review above several months ago, this caused me to ask my old question regarding the startling class demographics of neo-fascist parties in a Learning thread:
Is neo-fascism now a faux "workers' movement"? (http://www.revleft.com/index.php?showtopic=72261)
I'd like to revise that question slightly (different places for quotation marks): Is neo-fascism now a "faux" workers' movement (ie, genuine but self-defeating)?
What about, for another example (two links), the Muslim (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/11/28/AR2006112800135.html) Brotherhood (http://www.merip.org/mer/mer242/hamalawy.html) in Egypt?
Given the further implications posed by the questions above, I'd like to ask overall: what is a workers' movement?
[On a more subtle note, I also know the difference between classical "social democracy"/"proletocracy" (http://www.revleft.com/index.php?showtopic=74212)/"proletarism" (http://www.revleft.com/index.php?showtopic=74212) and mere united/popular fronts.]
Originally posted by Me
Remember, the original idea behind "social democracy" was the merger of scientific socialism (then in its "Marxist" form) and the workers' movement! (http://www.socialistdemocracy.org/Reviews/ReviewLeninRediscoveredPart1.html)
This premise implies the separate origins of the socialist movement and the workers' movement, and since I read the review above several months ago, this caused me to ask my old question regarding the startling class demographics of neo-fascist parties in a Learning thread:
Is neo-fascism now a faux "workers' movement"? (http://www.revleft.com/index.php?showtopic=72261)
I'd like to revise that question slightly (different places for quotation marks): Is neo-fascism now a "faux" workers' movement (ie, genuine but self-defeating)?
What about, for another example (two links), the Muslim (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/11/28/AR2006112800135.html) Brotherhood (http://www.merip.org/mer/mer242/hamalawy.html) in Egypt?
Given the further implications posed by the questions above, I'd like to ask overall: what is a workers' movement?
[On a more subtle note, I also know the difference between classical "social democracy"/"proletocracy" (http://www.revleft.com/index.php?showtopic=74212)/"proletarism" (http://www.revleft.com/index.php?showtopic=74212) and mere united/popular fronts.]