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zigomar
29th December 2007, 06:23
Workers of ``Shinvoz``, factory from Zrenjanin, Serbia, occupied their factory

Workers are now squatting in the factory to put pressure on the Agency for privatization to break a privatization contract because it caused bankruptcy of factory.

Workers of ``Shinvoz`` are supported by other workers of ``Jugoremedija``, ``Bek``, etc, factories from Zrenjanin that are already managed by workers.

At this moment these workers are the most progressive element of Serbian society. They are fighting for their own working places, for equal rights, and they are inspiring whole Serbia to fight against neoliberalism by supporting Balkan edition of Z magazine.

Freedom Fight link1 (http://freedomfight.net/cms/index.php?mact=News,cntnt01,detail,0&cntnt01articleid=37&cntnt01origid=15&cntnt01detailtemplate=my_showdetail.tpl&cntnt01dateformat=%25d.%20%25m.%20%25Y.&cntnt01returnid=62)

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An archist
29th December 2007, 12:00
This is great, do you have some more background info about this?

Tower of Bebel
29th December 2007, 15:02
How fares public opinion, and the unions? Is there a political movement or party that supports their demands?

VukBZ2005
29th December 2007, 15:39
This is good news, as it indicates that the Serbian working class, as is the working class of the entire territorial composition of what was once the Socialist Federative Republic of Yugoslavia, is becoming mobilized once more.

However, we have to look at what has put these working people and the working peoples of the former Yugoslavia in this situation in the first place; the lack of total working class control over the means of production and all properties when Yugoslavia actually was in existence, in its "Socialist" formation. If we do not look at and analyze this cause, then, it would be totally impossible for us to comprehend the reasons why the former "Socialist" Yugoslavia has been in a state of social, cultural, economic and political atomization and malaise in the course of the past sixteen years.

Lamanov
29th December 2007, 16:05
Actually, those workplaces are not managed by workers, but by shareholders' council, composed mostly (I guess?) of workers and retired workers.

Shareholder-workers from Jugoremedia factory established a local political party that would fight for the same project on a local level. In that factory court of law overruled the privatization process because the new owner ran down the factory, so most of the shares were passed on to the workers. This happened few years ago, and it's repeating now in other workplaces. New management established by shareholders did a good job in reviving the factory. But shareholders will eventually pass down the shares to their heirs or sell them at a fair price, so there's really nothing "revolutionary" about this, even though some groups tend to portray it as being so.

So technically, these workplaces are not managed by *all* workers who work there and they do not manage it as workers, but by workers who received shares during the privatization and court's interference - as a majority in shareholders' councils - that is, as shareholders.

Tower of Bebel
29th December 2007, 20:53
Thanks for this information DJ-TC.

zigomar
29th December 2007, 21:03
Originally posted by DJ-[email protected] 29, 2007 04:04 pm
Actually, those workplaces are not managed by workers, but by shareholders' council, composed mostly (I guess?) of workers and retired workers.

Shareholder-workers from Jugoremedia factory established a local political party that would fight for the same project on a local level. In that factory court of law overruled the privatization process because the new owner ran down the factory, so most of the shares were passed on to the workers. This happened few years ago, and it's repeating now in other workplaces. New management established by shareholders did a good job in reviving the factory. But shareholders will eventually pass down the shares to their heirs or sell them at a fair price, so there's really nothing "revolutionary" about this, even though some groups tend to portray it as being so.

So technically, these workplaces are not managed by *all* workers who work there and they do not manage it as workers, but by workers who received shares during the privatization and court's interference - as a majority in shareholders' councils - that is, as shareholders.
Of course, don`t forget that this is said by Serbian Anarcho-syndicalist from ASI, a collective well known because of its anti-workers actions.

Actually people from ASI are detached from any connection with workers and reality. They are an «activist» of the few-buddies Belgrade collective that exists only on international internet forums. Real soup in their heads and they don`t understand much about Serbian reality outside of their anarchists dogma. Of course ASI has some good comrades. When I say good, I mean honest. But all of them are blindly following orders of their leader, whose father is general Manager BMP/Hyat and who is living in a expensive, bourgeois villa that his daddy bought it for him in a elite part of the Belgrade city.

``Workers-shareholders`` in reality are hungry workers without job who formally have a paper that give them right to shares. But nobody of those workers actually saw any penny (dinar) from it. Of course, ASI members don`t know this.

Between March and August 2004 workers-shareholders of Jugoremedija were keeping the factory under their occupation, at least once they successfully defended Jugoremedija from the attack organized by owner's private security, and that on August 19th 2004 they were kicked out by joint action of Zrenjanin police, Belgrade Gendarmes (special unit of the Serbian police), and again owner's private army. Four of the leaders of the occupation were arrested and kept in prison for four days, and then charged for "disturbing peace", "causing public danger" and such shit. Criminal proceedings against them are still not finished.

On March 1st 2007 workers-shareholders of Jugoremedija took the factory back, this time after the Supreme Court's order. That's the way we fight - with both direct and legal action. Because we want to stop the few Serbian families and the few corporations from abroad to gain total control over the Serbian economy and over our life?

With both legal and direct means!

We really do see Jugoremedija as important victory for all the workers in Serbia, and at the moment we are using the Jugoremedija experience and their achievement to help the other comrades, who are not major owners of their factories, to establish certain level of workers control over management. If ASI "anarchists" were good enough to stop privatization in Serbia, we Freedom Fight "social democrats" wouldn't have to do any of these things, but unfortunately ASI didn`t have a single action to prevent privatization in 2001, and to save us from the miserable job we are doing now. Oh, I forget they had one ``revolutionary`` action - they protested for decreasing of student tuition fees for 50%. So much for the revolutionaries...

This is not the first time ASI members had defamatory attacks on Z Magazine for the Balkans, and the workers who are financing this project. Such a campaign of defamation is especially serious as they can inflict real damage to the very brave working people who are struggling to survive and defend their workplace and are making the publication of Z Magazine possible. We also ask any of our comrades who might have encountered these defamatory statements to understand the real political motives of the authors and not to allow them to do any further damage to those engaged in building something exciting, important and new.

Member of Freedom Fight

zigomar
29th December 2007, 21:31
400 Workers entering factory

http://www.freedomfight.net/sinovoz.jpg

zigomar
29th December 2007, 21:53
And one more thing - I don`t know how members of ASI got control over Revleft section on Serbo Croatian Language, but anybody who criticized ASI like I did here has been banned by DJ-TC. Maybe you should consider this a little bit.

Lamanov
30th December 2007, 00:39
You're wellcome Rakunin. As you can see, our comrade from Z-Mag has nothing to add to the story. He admits that this was a factory occupation turned into a court proceeding that ended in distributing shares. Of course, everyone is glad about workers having their way with insecurity and poverity, but to call the result "revolutionary" and to use it as a model for further action -- well, that's just ridiculous. If these social-democrats had it their way every possible radical action which might include factory occupations could turn out as a typical business deal.

P.S.

I'm not a member of ASI and I'm not from Serbia. ASI doesn't "control" our forum. ASI has nothing against workers obtaining shares, but is against - just like I am - calling the process "revolutionary", and especially using the process as a model for action. This story is very typical, I might add, and goes on and on for years.

zigomar
30th December 2007, 02:46
Originally posted by DJ-[email protected] 30, 2007 12:38 am
You're wellcome Rakunin. As you can see, our comrade from Z-Mag has nothing to add to the story. He admits that this was a factory occupation turned into a court proceeding that ended in distributing shares. Of course, everyone is glad about workers having their way with insecurity and poverity, but to call the result "revolutionary" and to use it as a model for further action -- well, that's just ridiculous. If these social-democrats had it their way every possible radical action which might include factory occupations could turn out as a typical business deal.

P.S.

I'm not a member of ASI and I'm not from Serbia. ASI doesn't "control" our forum. ASI has nothing against workers obtaining shares, but is against - just like I am - calling the process "revolutionary", and especially using the process as a model for action. This story is very typical, I might add, and goes on and on for years.
What a stupidity!!!

This asshole doesn`t even know that workers are already legally owners of the shares, but it is just formality and they don`t have any privilege from that. And they just use that formality to claim management over factory and to struggle for their working places. They don`t distribute shares after factory occupation. They just kick out a capitalist. After factory occupation they are managing the factory.

nobody called the results `revolutionary`but it is the only workers struggle in Serbia right now. Of course that we use it as a model for further action - because of that model this is the 4th factory under workers management in Serbia. And these factories are bases for promoting radical actions. These workers are financing Z magazine whose politic is strictly anti-capitalist.

And you, ASI assholes, don`t have any model for the further actions. And if you do, you are not capable to carry out it. You maybe have a model, but you don`t have a workers.

Problem with ASI is that they always humiliate workers struggles. And they are just a bunch of bourgeoisies. Imagine this the leader of ASI - the son of Hotel Corporate Executive is bullshiting to workers that they are not ``revolutionary``. Of course when his father is working for people that are buying whole Serbia and these workers are just making problems to them.

And this DJ-TC is just ASI ass-kisser as anyone that understand Serbo-Croatian can see in Serbo-Croatian section of revleft.

Lamanov
30th December 2007, 13:08
Originally posted by zigomar+December 30, 2007 02:45 am--> (zigomar @ December 30, 2007 02:45 am) This asshole doesn`t even know that workers are already legally owners of the shares, but it is just formality and they don`t have any privilege from that. And they just use that formality to claim management over factory and to struggle for their working places. [/b]

True. Eh, that is what I said. But I also said that the whole thing ended up on workers obtaining shares and operating as shareholders. That's also happening.


Originally posted by zigomar+--> (zigomar)They don`t distribute shares after factory occupation.[/b]

They 1) get them by law after a factory gets privatised, 2) they get them through a court order, 3) they may buy them.


Originally posted by zigomar
They just kick out a capitalist. After factory occupation they are managing the factory.

This is true, but there's are few questions everyone would like to ask: are *all* workers in each factory managing the workplace (or just shareholder workers), and what happens in time when workers change? Are these factories/shares going to be sold or not? Can workes sell shares and thus exclude themselves from "participation"? We're still waiting for answers, and personal-based insults are not helping.


[email protected]
nobody called the results `revolutionary`but it is the only workers struggle in Serbia right now. Of course that we use it as a model for further action - because of that model this is the 4th factory under workers management in Serbia. And these factories are bases for promoting radical actions. These workers are financing Z magazine whose politic is strictly anti-capitalist.

First off, Z-Mag is "anti-capitalist" as Michael Albert and Noam Chomsky are to be. Second, in one of the written circullars of Jugoremedia company main concerns are protection of property rights of "all the owners", cooperation of workforce, unions and management as the *only* recquirement for the future of any workplace, struggle against neoliberal capitalism in this manner, etc.

No one is against you so stop being to defensive and paranoid. We're just asking: what next? Workers obtain shares, they kick out a criminal: fine. What happens afterwards?


zigomar
And you, ASI assholes, don`t have any model for the further actions. And if you do, you are not capable to carry out it. You maybe have a model, but you don`t have a workers.

Problem with ASI is that they always humiliate workers struggles. And they are just a bunch of bourgeoisies. Imagine this the leader of ASI - the son of Hotel Corporate Executive is bullshiting to workers that they are not ``revolutionary``. Of course when his father is working for people that are buying whole Serbia and these workers are just making problems to them.

And this DJ-TC is just ASI ass-kisser as anyone that understand Serbo-Croatian can see in Serbo-Croatian section of revleft.

Eh, you're over reacting and being an asshole. Why would I kiss ass? :lol:

P.S.

For everyone to know, the organization zigomar is talking about is the current Secretariat of IWA-AIT. This must be said so other comrades would see that his/her insults are based on ideological grounds, and perhaps on personal ones too. (There's allot of bad blood among certain anarchist groups in Serbia, so these types of slanders are usual.)

syndicat
31st December 2007, 04:16
i heard about this struggle earlier today from a serbian comrade.


First off, Z-Mag is "anti-capitalist" as Michael Albert and Noam Chomsky are to be.

The implication is that Michael Albert and Noam Chomsky aren't "really" anti-capitalist. This comment is sectarian. in fact Albert considers himself a revolutionary.

Yugoslavia used to have a system of formal self-management rights in the sense of rights to elect the worker councils of the government-owned facilities. With the neoliberal turn, the government has privatized enterprises thru its share distribution schemes. It seems to me a reasonable tactic for workers to use their shares as a legal basis for attracking capitalist control, and to fight for control. moreover, occupying a factory is obviously a radical step since it attacks the idea of private property. On the other hand, it's a fair question what their aim is, that is, what do they aim to achieve.

As the moderator of this forum, i would ask zigomar and DJ-TC to both refrain from sectarian sparing and name-calling.

Keep in mind that the workers are in a precarious position.

Lamanov
31st December 2007, 12:38
Originally posted by [email protected] 31, 2007 04:15 am
It seems to me a reasonable tactic for workers to use their shares as a legal basis for attracking capitalist control, and to fight for control. moreover, occupying a factory is obviously a radical step since it attacks the idea of private property. On the other hand, it's a fair question what their aim is, that is, what do they aim to achieve.

True, it is reasonable, but there's one thing to keep in mind. Shares weren't the initial issue. Occupations started when a new private owner started to sell the machinery, tear the factory apart and run in down. Workers naturally felt in jeopardy so they occupied it. Naturally, they were supported by the whole specter of radical left at that time. But the whole thing ended up on the court when workers sued the new owner and got his shares by a court's ruling. That's how everything was, let's say, "deradicalized".

We never have enough information because certain "revolutionaries" who are taking part in this endeavor are withholding crucial information and are portraying the whole thing rather... well, overblown. We have to draw information from certain proclamations and acts that are more than against the view how these actions "attack the idea of private property." One reads:

>>Without fine collegial relations, based on mutual respect and trust, no company can achieve a good business result, no matter what its productional and financial capacities are. [...] thanks to the effort of all the workers, management and both unions, we reached an understanding that without trust and respect among ourselves, factory will not have a future. [...] Nevertheless, a part of it depends on the state of law, equal protection of all owners, safety of contracting and other conditions necessary for making Serbian economy stand on the principles of free and loyal competition.<<

Are we seeing a dead end here? What&#39;s the actual "remedy"? Are we misinformed by the people taking part in these projects? Allot of questions, no answers.

agent47
31st December 2007, 18:20
(Shit, I have a fucking background on Che Guevara on this field... :angry: )

To begin with, before somebody accuses me of being "anti-worker" or "upper-class", I want to say that I sympathize with the dilemma the workers face when given a choice of being small shareholders, no shareholders, or unemployed. Regardless of this, there is a question of actual forms of ownership and management and how to act in this situation as an anarchist or anti-capitalist speaking with people who, I understand, are at least partially claiming to be anti-capitalist.

I came to this forum from libcom: you can see my comment there which touches on the question of Jugoremedija.

My concrete questions are the following, based on my knowledge of such worker-shareholder schemes throughout E. Europe:

1. What is the exact ratio of worker-held shares to shares held by management and ouside investors?
2. Are all workers given an equal amount of shares for free or can workers aquire additional shares? Are workers forced to take loans to pay for their shares?
3. Are there any workers that are not shareholders?
4. If a worker quits or retires, do they retain shares? If a new person is hired, do they become a shareholder, do they have to work to get shares or must they purchase shares? Or are they simple wage labourers?
5. Is a worker obliged to maintain his or her shares while working or can they sell them on the open market?
6. How exactly is the factory run? In most "worker-shareholder" situations, a management board is still in place. In places where workers are not a majority, usually you get a worker representative on a supervisory board. How exactly is the structure to look?
7. What is the decision-making process like?

These are very simple questions which can help people to better judge what&#39;s going on. I think that in the future, it is better to avoid slogans like "worker-run" and "progressive" and just say what it exactly looks like or what people propose.

As an anarchist, I think that when speaking to people, we can encourage a more bottom-up approach, provided that the legal framework in which they are forced to operate allows it.

Of course I don&#39;t really know how it&#39;s really feasible with shareholding, which is a capitalist concept. (Of course I know some people at ZNet who would argue it isn&#39;t or that it can be organized differently, but that&#39;s a different question.)

With one company I know, (which also claimed to be "worker-run") there were shareholders who got money for investing capital, but there were also new employees working at even below minimum wage (because it was a special re-employment program) who were not entitled to shares or voting. I hope I don&#39;t have to explain to anybody here how this should be different from workers&#39; self-management under libertarian communism, anarcho-communism or anarcho-syndicalism. But while I would hope activists understand this, it turns out that some workers are rather thinking of self-managed capitalism, where they get ownership benefits from working - a sort of human capital - which later they cash in on, including through sale of this capital.

And it also turns out some activists don&#39;t understand this, because instead of looking at what&#39;s actually going on and discussing how to move from this situation, created by the capitalist system, to some more just/egalitarian situations (and eventually to what we want) people tend to throw out slogans like "workers&#39; control" and self-management, even when something else is going on. I have to say that I&#39;m really surprised about it.

And PS - for the fan of Jugoremedija, since this "workers&#39; run" place just became the majority shareholder of ANOTHER business, what is your take on that? I know the capitalists try to convince us that INVESTING IN STOCKS is a form of charity where good people with money create jobs that workers wouldn&#39;t have otherwise, but for me it&#39;s just capitalism. Or maybe you have some different take on it? Or perhaps more information?

Please, can somebody address the 7 questions I asked?

zigomar
31st December 2007, 19:32
We never have enough information because certain "revolutionaries" who are taking part in this endeavor are withholding crucial information

Well, I guess your problem then is that you don&#96;t take part in this...



True, it is reasonable, but there&#39;s one thing to keep in mind. Shares weren&#39;t the initial issue. Occupations started when a new private owner started to sell the machinery, tear the factory apart and run in down. Workers naturally felt in jeopardy so they occupied it. Naturally, they were supported by the whole specter of radical left at that time. But the whole thing ended up on the court when workers sued the new owner and got his shares by a court&#39;s ruling. That&#39;s how everything was, let&#39;s say, "deradicalized".

This is not true. From the start workers used court as a mean to take over their factory. Direct actions, occupation of factory and fight with police and private guards was a way to stop selling the factory property and a way to put pressure on court. And it was proper recipe because they won the battle on court. If they didn&#39;t used the court they would be still without job and they would be kicked out of the factory with police special forces (zandarmerija)... I see that it is easy for bourgeoisie revolutionary to play with revolution and radical action when it is not his life and working place in danger.


>>Without fine collegial relations, based on mutual respect and trust, no company can achieve a good business result, no matter what its productional and financial capacities are. [...] thanks to the effort of all the workers, management and both unions, we reached an understanding that without trust and respect among ourselves, factory will not have a future. [...] Nevertheless, a part of it depends on the state of law, equal protection of all owners, safety of contracting and other conditions necessary for making Serbian economy stand on the principles of free and loyal competition.<<

Are we seeing a dead end here? What&#39;s the actual "remedy"? Are we misinformed by the people taking part in these projects? Allot of questions, no answers.

Ok, you are the one here giving wrong informations, not me... I again hope that this is because you don&#39;t take part in this and not because of some other reasons.

Part of the campaign against these workers during their fight when almost whole Serbia was for the privatization (or at least whole political establishment) was that they are communists and that they want to return a self-management system. It wasn&#39;t like in McCarthy time but it was big burden on those workers. So workers were almost trapped between those accusing them that they are communists and those (and among them were these with reality and any activity detached bourgeoisie &#39;&#39;revolutionaries&#39;&#39;) who accused workers that they are not &#39;&#39;revolutionary&#39;&#39; enough.

What else they could do when they were almost the only one factory fighting against privatization? What is your &#39;&#39;radical&#39;&#39; next step, DJ TC, that includes keeping the factory under workers control, and excludes using the legal means? Like I said it is easy for someone that is not affected by all this what was happening which lasted four years without job for those workers.

So this proclamation (how did we misinform about these workers action and overblown it when this proclamation that of course includes more important elements which you didn&#39;t quote was published in our Z magazine?) should be read in this context. The workers almost feel pressure to always defend themselves that they are managing factory and doing their job better than the other factories that are privatized. They really are and that is strong argument against neoliberalised political elite in worker&#96;s fight to keep the factory under their control.

agent47
31st December 2007, 21:20
Hello. At least one person who seems to know things took time to banter about shit like what&#39;s "too radical" or not but what about my questions? Does anybody know? Because what are we talking about?

I certainly can understand that workers in real-life situations can look for a better material situation. That&#39;s not the question. I&#39;d like to know HOW THINGS RUN.

Should I expect an answer from somebody or stop wasting my time asking?

Niggle
1st January 2008, 01:06
Party of the Jugoremedija shareholders

Zrenjanin -- Small shareholders and workers of Zrenjanin factory of medicines Jugoremedija had created political party Equality.

They announced that they will participate in local elections. On the founding congress that was held during the weekend it was announced that the party will be working in the interest of economy of Zrenjanin and ownership rights of the workers.

Zdravko Deuric longtime president of the Union of small shareholders, and present president of the Managing board of Jugoremedia was named president of the party.

----------------

Stranka akcionara Jugoremedije

Zrenjanin -- Mali akcionari i radnici zrenjaninske fabrike lekova Jugoremedija osnovali su političku stranku Ravnopravnost.

Oni su najavili da će učestovati na lokalnim izborima. Na osnivačkoj skupštini održanoj tokom vikenda saopšteno je da će stranka Ravnopravnost raditi na zaštiti zrenjaninske privrede i vlasničkih prava radnika.

Za predsednika stranke izabran je Zdravko Deurić, dugogodišnji predsednik Udruženja malih akcionara, a sadašnji predsednik Upravnog odbora Jugoremedije.

http://www.b92.net/info/vesti/index.php?yy...1&nav_id=277889 (http://www.b92.net/info/vesti/index.php?yyyy=2007&mm=12&dd=24&nav_category=11&nav_id=277889)

zigomar
1st January 2008, 11:34
Originally posted by [email protected] 31, 2007 06:19 pm
With one company I know, (which also claimed to be "worker-run") there were shareholders who got money for investing capital, but there were also new employees working at even below minimum wage (because it was a special re-employment program) who were not entitled to shares or voting. I hope I don&#39;t have to explain to anybody here how this should be different from workers&#39; self-management under libertarian communism, anarcho-communism or anarcho-syndicalism. But while I would hope activists understand this, it turns out that some workers are rather thinking of self-managed capitalism, where they get ownership benefits from working - a sort of human capital - which later they cash in on, including through sale of this capital.


Unfortunately, of course there are workers in Jugoremedija that also think how to benefit from their ownership. How many of them I don&#96;t know. But we see in that just a coincidental result of whole situation when workers didn’t had any other option except to take over their factory claiming their owners&#96; rights.

So again, maybe you see in them small shareholders but we see in them hungry workers without job. Your questions seems so far away in a situation where they have to fight to save the factory from bankruptcy, from state which wants to put it on the market, and when they fight with workers of other factories from Zrenjanin city for those workers&#96; working places.

Ok, what is important here for us. During the election campaigns of actual neoliberal political elite when Milosevic was in power, part of their campaign for the privatization of companies was humiliating workers and their ability to self-manage factories. They were saying that most of the factories went into bankruptcy because &#96;&#96;stupid&#96;&#96; workers couldn’t manage them. In reality factories were managed by members of communist’s party that easily transformed themselves into new neoliberal elite. So responsibility for factories&#96; bankruptcy is theirs and not workers&#96;.

Neoliberal elite in power forced Jugoremedija in bankruptcy saying that even bad privatization is better than to leave factory to &#96;&#96;stupid&#96;&#96; workers.

But the workers after reclaiming their factory took factory out of the bankruptcy. So in Serbia Jugoremedija is an important example that workers can manage their factory. After decade of campaign against workers&#96; abilities it is very important for us so we can have something familiar to people to point our fingers when we talk against private property and for workers&#96; management. Jugoremedija is now almost the only factory in Zrenjanin city that is working and giving salaries to the workers. There are some 2.500 workers without job. So workers from Jugoremedija inspired and organised workers of &#96;&#96;Bek&#96;&#96; and &#96;&#96;Shinvoz&#96;&#96; also from Zrenjanin to block their factories which were led to bankruptcy and to request abrogation of privatization contract.

Why is that the &#96;&#96;most progressive fight&#96;&#96; in Serbia for us? Well, because it is almost the only fight and if there is any fight else it is organized by these workers.

One more reason why we also support these workers is because there are some Serbian wealthy &#96;&#96;revolutionaries&#96;&#96;, anarchists and syndicalist fighting for the big owners that want to buy whole Serbian pharmaceutical industry (Jugoremedija is pharmaceutical factory) and then to sell it expensively to multinational corporation. That is the reason for their defamation and for their call not to support these workers because they are not &#96;&#96;revolutionary&#96;&#96; enough. Like it means that you are revolutionary when you bullshit to people from your bourgeois villa your daddy bought it to you and when you do nothing else.

1. What is the exact ratio of worker-held shares to shares held by management and ouside investors?

Ok, I&#96;ll tell you what I know… and I&#96;ll look for the information I don’t have.

Almost all shareholders except the state are at the same time workers or they were workers of Jugoremedija at one point in their life. If there are any shareholders except workers that is not mistake of these workers but inherited situation. Workers elected management among them and people from management don’t posses extra shares except those as workers.

Their persistence in the battle for factory comes from the fact that they are workers of that factory and not because of the fact that they are owners of the factory. All of them were initially fighting for their job, against dismissal, against selling the factory property and against factory bankruptcy. And in one point they realized that even by law they couldn’t be fired because they are legally owners of that factory. Ok, they maybe received those shares during the first privatization law in Serbia and it was Milosevic&#96;s law which was by some &#96;&#96;experts&#96;&#96; entitled as &#96;&#96;covered up self-management&#96;&#96; and those &#96;&#96;experts&#96;&#96; also said that that privatization actually was not real privatization. So new political elite (neoliberal) didn’t want to recognize in reality that first privatization law is valid. But of course workers did want to recognize it as valid. And that law gave 70% of factory shares to workers and 30% belonged to the state. After fall of Milosevic new privatization law gave 30% shares to the workers and 70% state was selling to capitalists by tenders, auctions, etc.

I don&#96;t know how state had 42% of shares to sell it on the auction to a criminal Jovica Stefanovic Nini wanted by the Interpol at that time. There was a contract between the state and J.S. Nini that he has to buy the shares that he lacks (that right state also sold to him although didn’t had that right) and to become the major owner of the factory. I think that he didn’t do that but in spite of that he acted as major owner because state helped him to declare himself as a major owner and nobody said nothing against. Or he did transaction of 20% of company debt in shares and on that illegal way became major owner. Workers were also confused at the start. They started opposing to new owner J.S.Nini when they saw that he bought factory just to sell factory machines and resources and all of that led factory to bankruptcy. And state helped J.S. Nini to kick out of the factory 140 workers opposing (which were also as workers owners –small shareholders- of the factory but in Serbia like you see that doesn’t mean anything).

So after the legal battle and winning through abrogation of privatization contract workers reclaimed their 58% of the factory and they became major owners. The rest of the shares belong to the state. State puts pressure on actual management of the factory to put Jugoremedija on the market so she could sell here 42% shares.

2. Are all workers given an equal amount of shares for free or can workers aquire additional shares? Are workers forced to take loans to pay for their shares?

Workers are not paying for their shares. I think that according to years spend in factory they received shares. Retired people still alive also received some shares according to the law.

3. Are there any workers that are not shareholders?

Well, maybe new employed workers are not shareholders but new worker’s management is exploring the ways to transform them in shareholders after few years spend in factory. Jugoremedija is under workers&#96; management only for 7 months until now.

4. If a worker quits or retires, do they retain shares? If a new person is hired, do they become a shareholder, do they have to work to get shares or must they purchase shares? Or are they simple wage labourers?

According to law worker retain shares.

5. Is a worker obliged to maintain his or her shares while working or can they sell them on the open market?

Most of the workers and their actual management induce workers not to sell their shares so workers could keep their 58% and keep the factory under workers&#96; control. Jugoremedija is still not on the open market. They forced the government to postpone their coming out on market for one year or more but the law forced them to do that after.

6. How exactly is the factory run? In most "worker-shareholder" situations, a management board is still in place. In places where workers are not a majority, usually you get a worker representative on a supervisory board. How exactly is the structure to look?

Jugoremedija is permitted by law to have management board. There is also supervisory board. In both boards are only workers of the factory. Maybe state has somebody in supervisory board but that is irrelevant.

7. What is the decision-making process like?

There are workers-shareholders councils. I am not sure for the rest. I&#96;ll ask

zigomar
1st January 2008, 12:05
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