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JazzRemington
27th December 2007, 02:06
I think most of the leftists here are leftists because they can't make it in the real world, for some reason. So, they become angry and try to rebel, but only end up working at a McDonalds, or if they are the "intellectuals" they may work at Wal-Mart. I don't think it's their fault, it's their parents fault for allowing them to grow up to believe in such nonsense like communism, which by the way has killed millions of people and Stalin was the Russian Hitler. I've decided to do my part and educate you people into successfully integrate into reality.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyiXbrc22bQ&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zIQruPEDmg&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kf7VdYNhE4&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbPOxRrEXi0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Exz4hQ6jF9M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zP0sqRMzkwo

Robert
27th December 2007, 03:54
which by the way has killed millions of people

You're learning.

Dean
28th December 2007, 01:58
Originally posted by Robert the [email protected] 27, 2007 03:53 am

which by the way has killed millions of people

You're learning.
Too few if you ask me.

Robert
28th December 2007, 06:51
What does that mean? Communism should have killed more? That's what you advocate?

Rollo
28th December 2007, 07:45
Originally posted by Dean+December 28, 2007 11:57 am--> (Dean @ December 28, 2007 11:57 am)
Robert the [email protected] 27, 2007 03:53 am

which by the way has killed millions of people

You're learning.
Too few if you ask me. [/b]
Please explain how killing of more people by any means could result in a better post-revolutionary society. ( Not including reactionary resistance )

mikelepore
28th December 2007, 08:31
Originally posted by [email protected] 27, 2007 02:05 am
I think most of the leftists here are leftists because they can't make it in the real world, for some reason. So, they become angry and try to rebel, but only end up working at a McDonalds, or if they are the "intellectuals" they may work at Wal-Mart. I don't think it's their fault, it's their parents fault for allowing them to grow up to believe in such nonsense like communism, which by the way has killed millions of people and Stalin was the Russian Hitler.
Your psychoanalytical skill is simply wonderful. A psychiatrist has to interview each individual for numerous hours about a variety of biographical details before being able to determine that one individual's motivations. But you have the ability to read only about what kind of social structure a number of people prefer, people that you have never met, and then you can immediately identify the motivations of all of them. To have such a skill is truly wonderful.

ÑóẊîöʼn
28th December 2007, 11:00
Originally posted by JazzRemington
I think most of the leftists here are leftists because they can't make it in the real world, for some reason.

Who are you, and what have you done with the real JazzRemington? I'm assuming that this topic is some misguided attempt at being funny, as this old saw has been trotted out by OIers since before Revleft existed, and has repeatedly shown to be a fallacy based on stereotypes and a typically Americentric lack of consideration for Revleft's international membership.


So, they become angry and try to rebel, but only end up working at a McDonalds, or if they are the "intellectuals" they may work at Wal-Mart.

I haven't set foot in a McDonalds since I was 15, and we don't get Wal-Marts here in the UK. Try to think outside the planet USA, please? Just try it.


I don't think it's their fault, it's their parents fault for allowing them to grow up to believe in such nonsense like communism, which by the way has killed millions of people and Stalin was the Russian Hitler.

And you have managed to divine the ideology of the majority of our membership's parents/gaurdians how exactly? Reading sheep guts? Tea leaves?

Furthermore, most young people are perfectly capable of forming ideological positions independantly of their parents.

"Communism" has killed nobody since nobody can be killed by an abstract concept. Even if we accept for the sake of argument that Stalin was responsible for the death of millions, it was his conclusions that lead him to do such acts. Other people draw much less fatal conclusions.

The American administration claim they are bringing democracy to Iraq, yet they are doing no such thing. Democracy itself is not invalidated as a concept because people do evil things in it's name. The same applies for communism. Ideologies are not "evil" unless it actually has something like "killing millions of people" as an end. I don't remember Marx or any of the Enlightenment thinkers who contributed to the birth of democracy advocating the deaths of millions.

Next fallacy.


I've decided to do my part and educate you people into successfully integrate into reality.

Your condescending attitude will not win you any friends. It serves only to make you look like a total dickhead. Which, if you're being serious, is what you are.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyiXbrc22bQ&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zIQruPEDmg&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kf7VdYNhE4&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbPOxRrEXi0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Exz4hQ6jF9M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zP0sqRMzkwo

And a bunch of YouTube videos, which I cannot watch because of this crappy library computer I'm currently using. Even I had the capability, I would not watch those videos because A) it would be a waste of my time B) I would find it boring and C) If you couldn't somehow formulate the content of these videos into a post, they are irrelevant.

There are two words which I think adequately sum up the original post: Fucking Fail.

Jazzratt
28th December 2007, 15:29
Originally posted by [email protected] 28, 2007 10:59 am

So, they become angry and try to rebel, but only end up working at a McDonalds, or if they are the "intellectuals" they may work at Wal-Mart.

I haven't set foot in a McDonalds since I was 15, and we don't get Wal-Marts here in the UK. Try to think outside the planet USA, please? Just try it.

You lie! I believe you set foot in one when you were at the tail end of 19. ;)

****

Anyway, I'm sure the videos illustrate why this thread is a hilarious and ironic joke but to be honest I can't be arsed with them.

Zurdito
28th December 2007, 16:02
I haven't set foot in a McDonalds since I was 15, and we don't get Wal-Marts here in the UK. Try to think outside the planet USA, please? Just try it

Too right. My life ambition is to work in Wimpy, not MacD's. :wub:

mikelepore
28th December 2007, 17:45
Originally posted by [email protected] 27, 2007 02:05 am
such nonsense like communism, which by the way has killed millions of people and Stalin was the Russian Hitler
It's interesting how you are pointing to your own error and you don't realize it. You are sensing that what killed millions of people was something that the regimes of Stalin and Hitler had in common. Well, what did the forms of social administration in these two cases have in common? In each case unlimited power was given to a leader, and there wasn't a popularly elected legislature or independent judiciary that could overrule the leader. There wasn't what Americans call a separation of powers among several branches. Unlike the U.S., they didn't have public election of the top commander of the military. They didn't have freedom of speech, unrestricted debates, and multiple party elections. In other words, the common factors between Stalin and Hitler had to do with the legal and political structures. By introducing the comparison between them you have nearly pointed to the fact that their killing of million of people had nothing at all to do with the fact that one of them adopted the name "communism."

JazzRemington
28th December 2007, 17:54
http://38.114.207.9/4ddd8ba12f22708418312c02a879f57e4g.jpg
(http://38.114.207.9/4ddd8ba12f22708418312c02a879f57e4g.jpg)

Schrödinger's Cat
28th December 2007, 19:31
*Kof* Recognizable sarcasm, folks. :P

In other news, I just received my $200 check in the mail from Google's adsense program.

Dr Mindbender
29th December 2007, 15:49
Originally posted by [email protected] 27, 2007 02:05 am
I think most of the leftists here are leftists because they can't make it in the real world, for some reason. So, they become angry and try to rebel, but only end up working at a McDonalds, or if they are the "intellectuals" they may work at Wal-Mart. I don't think it's their fault, it's their parents fault for allowing them to grow up to believe in such nonsense like communism, which by the way has killed millions of people and Stalin was the Russian Hitler. I've decided to do my part and educate you people into successfully integrate into reality.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyiXbrc22bQ&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zIQruPEDmg&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kf7VdYNhE4&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbPOxRrEXi0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Exz4hQ6jF9M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zP0sqRMzkwo
please tell me this is one of those 'ironic joke posts'. :huh:

Dean
29th December 2007, 16:33
Originally posted by Rollo+December 28, 2007 07:44 am--> (Rollo @ December 28, 2007 07:44 am)
Originally posted by [email protected] 28, 2007 11:57 am

Robert the [email protected] 27, 2007 03:53 am

which by the way has killed millions of people

You're learning.
Too few if you ask me.
Please explain how killing of more people by any means could result in a better post-revolutionary society. ( Not including reactionary resistance ) [/b]
It was partly a joke, partly a call to arms. I don't suport purges, but I do support violence in defense, which is what revolution is.