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cyu
24th December 2007, 07:00
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/2033324.stm
FBI campaign against Einstein revealed

By Dr David Whitehouse

A new book reveals the 22-year effort by FBI director J Edgar Hoover to get Albert Einstein arrested as a political subversive or even a Soviet spy.

Uncovered FBI files are revealed in a book by Fred Jerome who says it was a clash of cultures - Einstein's challenge and change with Hoover's order and obedience.

From the time Einstein arrived in the US in 1933 to the time of his death, in 1955, the FBI files reveal that his phone was tapped, his mail was opened and even his trash searched.

Einstein became world famous in 1906 for his Special Theory of Relativity that deals with light.

His General Theory of Relativity, published in 1919, deals with gravity and has been called mankind's greatest intellectual accomplishment.

Derogatory information

The Einstein File begins with a request by J Edgar Hoover in 1950: "Please furnish a report as to the nature of any derogatory information contained in any file your bureau may have on the following person."

That person was Albert Einstein, and the request intensified a secret campaign to discredit him.

Hoover was worried about Einstein's liberal intellectualism and his dabbling in politics, something that has been forgotten today. It has been overtaken by Einstein's absent-minded professor image.

But Einstein was outspoken against social injustice and violations of civil rights.

The fledgling state of Israel once offered Einstein its presidency. Einstein declined.

The broad outline of this story has been known since 1983, when Richard Alan Schwartz, a professor of English at Florida International University in Miami, obtained a censored version of Einstein's 1,427-page FBI file.

But Jerome uncovers new material.

He sued the US Government with the help of the Public Citizen Litigation Group to obtain all the documents in the Einstein file.

Stalin comparison

The new material shows how the bureau spied on Einstein.

"It is like the agents got up in the morning, brushed their teeth, opened other people's mail and tapped some phones," he told the BBC.

After he left Germany, appalled by the barbarism of the Nazis, Einstein lent his name to a variety of organisations dedicated to peace and disarmament.

Because of this, the Woman Patriot Corp wrote a 16-page letter to the State Department, the first item in Einstein's file, in 1932, arguing that Einstein should not be allowed into the United States.

"Not even Stalin himself" was affiliated with so many anarchic-communist groups, the letter said.

Fred Jerome reveals that the 1,800-page document prepared about Einstein by the FBI shows that the agency even bugged his secretary's nephew's house.

The files reveal that for five years J Edgar Hoover tried, and failed, to link Einstein to a Soviet espionage ring.

bootleg42
24th December 2007, 07:13
Next time someone says socialism is stupid, tell them that Einstein must have been an idiot, lolz.

SouthernBelle82
24th December 2007, 16:33
Originally posted by [email protected] 24, 2007 07:12 am
Next time someone says socialism is stupid, tell them that Einstein must have been an idiot, lolz.
Good point bootleg. People love to point out Einstein is a genius so it'd be interesting to see if they say the same thing once they learn he was a socialist. How disgusting of Hoover and the FBI to spy on him like that. They obviously had no probable cause to spy on him and violated his fourth amendment rights. Ugh.

RedAnarchist
24th December 2007, 16:52
"Not even Stalin himself" was affiliated with so many anarchic-communist groups, the letter said.

Stalin? Anarchists? :blink:

bolshevik butcher
24th December 2007, 17:27
Originally posted by [email protected] 24, 2007 04:51 pm


"Not even Stalin himself" was affiliated with so many anarchic-communist groups, the letter said.

Stalin? Anarchists? :blink:
I'd imagine that it meant anarchic as in hell raising chaotic types rather than as in anarcho-communism as a political position/ideology. Einstein identified as a socailist but not to my knowledge as an anarchist.

thescarface1989
24th December 2007, 22:34
http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/Einstein.htm

cyu
25th December 2007, 08:03
Stalin? Anarchists?

Just goes to show conservatives know very little about the what exactly it is they are opposing. If they actually understood it, they probably wouldn't be so against it. Ignorance in action, folks.

luxemburg89
27th December 2007, 20:45
From what my Dad tells me Einstein chaired a number of Communist meetings in both Germany and the USA - does anyone know if this is true?

Holden Caulfield
27th December 2007, 21:06
it goes to show that a large majority of socialists are those with the capacity to understand humanity,

Einstein was the world most reknown scientist,
Himmler was a failed chicken farmer...

Red October
28th December 2007, 01:57
Originally posted by bolshevik butcher+December 24, 2007 12:26 pm--> (bolshevik butcher @ December 24, 2007 12:26 pm)
[email protected] 24, 2007 04:51 pm


"Not even Stalin himself" was affiliated with so many anarchic-communist groups, the letter said.

Stalin? Anarchists? :blink:
I'd imagine that it meant anarchic as in hell raising chaotic types rather than as in anarcho-communism as a political position/ideology. Einstein identified as a socailist but not to my knowledge as an anarchist. [/b]
What, you haven't read about all the anarchist circles Stalin associated with?

lacysquid
28th December 2007, 02:25
there is a book, aptly named "the book of lists" by russ kick (under the disinfo label) that has a list of people who have FBI/CIA files on them. Einstien is one of them, along with a few other obvious ones (manson, abbie hoffman, etc) but there are a few that make no sense, and usually its based on the whole "they're in league with the commies" spiel. When it comes to government organizations, i've noticed that they dont know what targets to choose.

I should go dig up that book in that mess of a room I have.

midnight marauder
28th December 2007, 03:00
Originally posted by bb
I'd imagine that it meant anarchic as in hell raising chaotic types rather than as in anarcho-communism as a political position/ideology. Einstein identified as a socailist but not to my knowledge as an anarchist.

I can see where you're coming from, but it would certainly be fitting for Hoover to label dissidents as anarchist: keep in mind that he attacked just about everyone on the left as being "communists", "soviets", or anarchists. Considering his whole career was premised on counteracting leftists activists, thinkers, artists, writers, actors, and anyone else who strayed to far from center politics, he was certainly no stranger to anarchism. Many people don't realize this, but the man was in office for almost fifty years -- he was killing anarchists and was out for Alexander Berkman and Emma Goldman's blood forty years before he was murdering and falsely imprisoning Black Panther comrades in the 70s.

That's pretty much the sole reason why the FBI has term limits on his former position these days. His willingness to label anyone as anarchists or communists, regardless of whether they actually were, is the major reason he's such a controversial figure, even for moderates from both parties. In fact, a recently declassified federal document talks about his push to jail 12,000 American citizens for being "traitors", (http://www.mathaba.net/0_index.shtml?x=575685) so it wouldn't surprise me at all to see Einstein labeled as such.

However, unlike many other people who labeled as communists during Hoover's reign, Albert Einstein actually was one. A lot of folks I've talked to in real life were shocked to find this out (and more than a few people I've met have denied it outright), but he was an outspoken leftist. If you're interested, you can check out a piece he wrote on the subject titled Why Socialism? online (http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/Einstein.htm).

If there's one thing the USFG is good at, it's slandering its critics. You don't have to know the House Committee on Un-American Activities to know that.