RURAL PEOPLE'S PARTY

[legitimategenius]

[COLOR=red] HELLO MY NAME IS ADOLFO AND THIS IS MY FIRST TIME ON REVLEFT. ALSO I AM CURIOUS TO NO ABOUT MANY PERSPECTIVES CONCERNING THE RURAL PEOPLE'S PARTY. ALSO DONT JUS SAY THEY ARE DOGMATIC I WANT TO NO WHY AND WHY U THINK THAT IDEA. PLEASE MY FRIENDS JUST WRITE ON SO I CAN OBSERVE THE VARIOUS OPINIONS.

[RedAnarchist]

Hi Adolfo. Maybe you could put this in Learning, as I think it may be more suited to that subforum. Also, please adhere to "Netiquette" - don't write your post in all capitals as it makes it look like you're "shouting" your post.

[Labor Shall Rule]

They are unmaterialist in their evaluation of class relations in 'imperialist' countries, they blatantly admit that they organize with the lumpenproletariat and other ragamuffin elements, they endorse 'oppressed peoples' identity politics as a replacement for actual working class theory, and are a bourgeois student phenomena that have no actual connection to the masses.

Not only that, but Jim Jones, a silly cultist that made his predominately black followers drink dirty kool-aid, was an inspiration for the group. For some reason, they are also cahoots for Pol Pot too.

[midnight marauder]

Moved to Learning.

[Faux Real]

Originally posted by Labor Shall [email protected] 15, 2007 04:34 pm
For some reason, they are also cahoots for Pol Pot too.
Bingo. They're not communists. Not in any coherent sense of the word.

These quotes are from their freewebs.com website.

We want the establishment of the Black belt nation and the victory of revolutionary nationalist liberation as originally forwarded by Comrade Josef Stalin.
Really, Stalin came up with the practice of National Liberation?

A black belt "nation"? Why so, if the end goal of proclaimed communists is an elimination of racial divisions and nations?

We believe that democratic-centralism, the system of unified application of majority decisions, is necessary to defeat the oppressors. This system includes organization, leadership, discipline and hierarchy. The oppressors use these weapons, and we should, too.
Excellent reasoning. :rolleyes:

We believe that oppressed people will not be free until they are able to determine their destinies. We look forward to the day when oppressed people will live without imperialist police terror and will learn to speak their mind without fear of the consequences from the oppressor. When this day comes, meaningful plebiscites can be held in which the peoples will decide for themselves if they want their own separate nation- states or some other arrangement.

We believe it is our duty to support Marxism- Leninism-Maoism everywhere, though our principal task is to build public opinion and independent institutions in preparation for Maoist revolution in North America. The imperialists think and act globally -- we must do the same.
Contradiction!

I would like to hear their stance on anarchists, syndicalist and the like.

There is no substantial rural base for which this "party" to appeal to.

There's also no reason to believe this party exists outside the Internet. Just like MIM.

[JazzRemington]

You know he's probably a troll, right?

[Hiero]

Really, Stalin came up with the practice of National Liberation?

His book on Marxism and the National Question, organised alot of ideas about national liberation which was adopted by socialist of all kinds and come the common idea of national liberation in the modern world. The USSR up to Khrushchev leadership supported the idea of their being a Black Belt nation within the settler nation and support for Black nation liberation in the Black Belt, equal rights in the Black Belt and equal rights for Black people in the north and west of the USA.

Harry Haywood futher developed this ideas. After de-stalinisation he supported and added to the idea of black belt liberation, this resulting in his expulsion from the CPUSA.


A black belt "nation"? Why so, if the end goal of proclaimed communists is an elimination of racial divisions and nations?

It achieves this goal by fighting oppression. Where one nation expliots and oppresses another nation, national liberation is neccassary. This process weakens the imperialist and then the newly liberated colonies can begin creating socialism and in the imperialist countries class conflict which was formely exported to the neo-colonies becomes more prominent in the imperialist countries.

[Labor Shall Rule]

To call for a black ‘nation’ is opportunism. There is no separate language, special national customs, or special national culture or religion within the black belt region, and more importantly, the blacks in this area does not even have any special national minority interests. They are a race, rather than a national identity.

The slogan would only interest the petit-bourgeois, rather than the sharecroppers and textile-workers. The only way the black proletariat could be won over is under the banner of the class struggle, without any bourgeois tomfoolery of ‘self-determination’ involved.

[legitimategenius]

PLease i need more opinions and or perspectives..... this is for my school project so yea i need way more opinions and or perspectives

[Dros]

Originally posted by [email protected] 15, 2007 11:01 pm
[COLOR=red] HELLO MY NAME IS ADOLFO AND THIS IS MY FIRST TIME ON REVLEFT. ALSO I AM CURIOUS TO NO ABOUT MANY PERSPECTIVES CONCERNING THE RURAL PEOPLE'S PARTY. ALSO DONT JUS SAY THEY ARE DOGMATIC I WANT TO NO WHY AND WHY U THINK THAT IDEA. PLEASE MY FRIENDS JUST WRITE ON SO I CAN OBSERVE THE VARIOUS OPINIONS.
Why do you want to know what we think about them?

I think they're funny. Especially the part where they call themselves Maoists.

[legitimategenius]

WELL because im doing this for my school project. i have to compile a report on the opinions or perspectives concerning the RPP

[Dros]

Originally posted by [email protected] 16, 2007 03:48 am
WELL because im doing this for my school project. i have to compile a report on the opinions or perspectives concerning the RPP
That is a very strange project.

[legitimategenius]

i no but the school gave me a paper saying choose a political party and compile opinions on it, alot of people are doing capitalist parties such as demorcrats etc i want to do the rpp

[which doctor]

I would suggest you choose a more prolific party.

[RedStaredRevolution]

I dont think any party that gives Jim Jones a place of honor should be taken seriously in the least.

[Pirate Utopian]

I doubt you could write a whole report on these MIMites.

[Red October]

Originally posted by [email protected] 15, 2007 10:35 pm
PLease i need more opinions and or perspectives..... this is for my school project so yea i need way more opinions and or perspectives
Just look at their website and you'll see that they're full of shit.

[legitimategenius]

what yall are telling me is just bull shit i need yall to tell me soemthing with support , you have to be able to back up wat u say

[Red October]

Originally posted by [email protected] 16, 2007 12:40 pm
what yall are telling me is just bull shit i need yall to tell me soemthing with support , you have to be able to back up wat u say
They uphold Pol Pot and Jim Jones as legitimate revolutionary leaders and support the formation of a country just for black people in the south eastern United States. You would have to be drunk to even consider these people sane.

[Raúl Duke]

Originally posted by [email protected] 16, 2007 12:40 pm
what yall are telling me is just bull shit i need yall to tell me soemthing with support , you have to be able to back up wat u say
Why not look at the web-site yourself:

RPP (http://www.freewebs.com/ruralmaoism/)

In their site you can clearly see pics of Pol Pot and Jim Jones.

Also, they say they're associated with MIM.

Why would you want to do it on this party? If you want a Maoist party why not just pick the RCP? :huh:

[legitimategenius]

Well basically becauase i don't agree with the RCP. From my personal perspective i do not consider the RCp as maoists.

[black magick hustla]

Originally posted by [email protected] 16, 2007 01:41 am
You know he's probably a troll, right?
No he is not, I know this guy.

Unless of course, he has been trolling me for the last year lol

[legitimategenius]

marmot whats up man let me get your perspective towards the rpp

[bloody_capitalist_sham]

Rural people's party is full of revisionists and capitalist roaders, say no to fake Maoism!

Glory to the Leader

[Red October]

Have you even looked at their website or read anything by them? You should be able to tell they're a bunch of delusional crazies. I don't see how anyone can expect a party to succeed, much less amount to anything, when they uphold jim jones as a revolutionary leader

[Dros]

I seriously doubt that you are doing a school project on the RPP.

You strike me as an RPP member or supporter.

So you are trying to start an argument about the RPP. Please explain to me why you support them (if you do as I believe).

I don't take them seriously. They're affiliated with the MIM joke, and they uphold Pol Pot. Need I say more? I hope not...

[Raúl Duke]

Originally posted by [email protected] 16, 2007 06:11 pm
I seriously doubt that you are doing a school project on the RPP.

You strike me as an RPP member or supporter.

So you are trying to start an argument about the RPP. Please explain to me why you support them (if you do as I believe).

I don't take them seriously. They're affiliated with the MIM joke, and they uphold Pol Pot. Need I say more? I hope not...
Yeah, I was thinking the same...after all who would pick such an obscure party?

I've never heard of it till now...

[RedStaredRevolution]

Originally posted by JohnnyDarko+December 16, 2007 07:21 pm--> (JohnnyDarko @ December 16, 2007 07:21 pm)
[email protected] 16, 2007 06:11 pm
I seriously doubt that you are doing a school project on the RPP.

You strike me as an RPP member or supporter.

So you are trying to start an argument about the RPP. Please explain to me why you support them (if you do as I believe).

I don't take them seriously. They're affiliated with the MIM joke, and they uphold Pol Pot. Need I say more? I hope not...
Yeah, I was thinking the same...after all who would pick such an obscure party?

I've never heard of it till now... [/b]
I've heard of them before. Red October actually showed me their site a few weeks ago. He probably found a link to it somewhere on Revleft though. But i agree, i dont think anyone would do a school project on them.

[legitimategenius]

Well Jim Jones did struggle for the people. You can't deny that fact. tell me how the lumpenproletarians and proletarians loved Jim Jones for his colosal character of being positive towards the people.

[legitimategenius]

Well drosera99 I am not a member of the RPP I just support there revolutionary causa. You want to no why I support the RPP. I support them because they are not revisionists,opportunists,or dogmatists. They adhere to legitimate communism. They are not like the RCP which are a bunch of false maoists. The RPP declares war on all bourgeois superstructure and infrastructure. Also the RPP has a thorough way of looking at and analyzing the problems that arise withina and without the party. Another reason in particular is that the RPP believes there is a labor aristocracy and that there is little to no revolutionary potential in this here pro-imperialist working class leaving the lumpenproletarian as the legitimate revolutionary class in US soil. I believe there is a labor aristocracy. Many of you people might not but i do. Well that is basically why I support the RPP and there are still many other reasons but it would be to long.

[RNK]

Originally posted by [email protected] 22, 2007 02:25 pm
Well drosera99 I am not a member of the RPP I just support there revolutionary causa. You want to no why I support the RPP. I support them because they are not revisionists,opportunists,or dogmatists. They adhere to legitimate communism.
So supporting Jim Jones and his forceful captivity of over a hundred men women and children, and their subsequent murders, is legitimate communism? Pol Pot and his slaughtering of, what was it, 1/3rd of Cambodia's population is legitimate communism? I guess, of course, Juche and Songyin are also legitimately communist.

Only idiots and those of imature intelligence support crackheads like the MIM and RPP. While your disillusionment with the RCP is understandable, please do not make the mistake of supporting froth-mouthed lunatics who think that the universal forced castration of all white men is the solution to the problems of race relations.

Otherwise stfu and gtfo.


Also the RPP has a thorough way of looking at and analyzing the problems that arise withina and without the party.

Funny that a non-existent internet Party is capable of analyzing the problems a party faces internally. I'm sure the 5 or so members have so many analytical struggles between themselves, that's it not even funny.

[Dros]

Originally posted by [email protected] 22, 2007 02:25 pm
Well drosera99 I am not a member of the RPP I just support there revolutionary causa. You want to no why I support the RPP. I support them because they are not revisionists,opportunists,or dogmatists. They adhere to legitimate communism. They are not like the RCP which are a bunch of false maoists. The RPP declares war on all bourgeois superstructure and infrastructure. Also the RPP has a thorough way of looking at and analyzing the problems that arise withina and without the party. Another reason in particular is that the RPP believes there is a labor aristocracy and that there is little to no revolutionary potential in this here pro-imperialist working class leaving the lumpenproletarian as the legitimate revolutionary class in US soil. I believe there is a labor aristocracy. Many of you people might not but i do. Well that is basically why I support the RPP and there are still many other reasons but it would be to long.
Wow. So you're just an MIMite who upholds Pol Pot and Jim Jones. That is a whole new level of crazy.

I hate to break this to you: the RPP is probably five upper-middle class, guilt ridden, white, male, students, attending Yale. The party does not exist. It has 0 revolutionary potential because a.) it's line is bullshit and b.) IT ISN'T A REAL PARTY! Have you ever heard of the RPP at a protest? No. Working with the proletariat? (No, because they hate the proletariat.)

It's MIM except smaller and even more batshit crazy.

[Xiao Banfa]

This is one of the fruitcake articles I found in a site they linked to.


The Jewish Entertainment Media



--- Husayn Faraj Allah Al-Kurdi



The entertainment industry is a major component of the Jewish hegemonic cultural and political overlordship. The Jewish power-mongers realize and openly acclaim this. The aim is to get everyone to laugh in ridicule and with hatred vs. Arabs, Blacks, Muslims et al and to laugh "with" the ever "cute" and/or "put upon" or even "oppressed" Jews. All of Hollyweird and TV Land attest to this. Sesame Street, Power Rangers, Dora the Explora are actually tricking out the minds of babies and children.

Back in the 1970s, Norman Lear pumped out the sitcoms which reinforced the pro-Jewish stereotypes, while posing as "progressive" do-goodism. American ideas about Jews and Islam and Arabs have been shaped in large part by the entertainment and news "media".

"Media" actually means "mouthpiece" or the conducting current of something. It is a "message" from something or someone being sent to the recipient with a specific
goal in mind. "Fiddler on the Roof", "Exodus" and scores of other motion pictures have been extremely influential in getting Americans to close their eyes to Jewish depredations and crimes. The (Adam) Sandlers, (Jon) Stewarts, and the "Saturday Night Lives” target a slightly older (but no wiser) age group.

This is "no joke". "Think Yiddish, Talk British" is a well-known Jewish "comedy" and P.R. maxim. It is precisely through these "media" that immeasurable damage is being done by getting the TV-entranced population to go along with the schemes of the "put upon" and "cute" Jews. The inevitable product and desired result is to sic everyone on the enemies of the Jews and liquidate any resistance to their plans, whether in Iraq, Palestine, America or senile old Europe.

People have been lowered into a moronic state of acquiescence to Jewdayo-Christian dictates and the end result is the not "cute" Crusades, the latest of which
coincides with World War Four on the USA-Mossad timetable. This is the one in which the ultimate and actual "Final Solution" is being activated, entailing the conquest of the entire globe and extended out into Outer Space, the ultimate tyrant's wet dream come true.

It only hurts (the people) when they laugh. They are actually "laughing" at their own nullification and the ratification of their masters as their lawful rulers. Meanwhile, the Jewish bankers and their associates continue to "laugh all the way to the bank" while slaughtering everything in their way.

The TV/Hollyweird "culture" puts the people in a comatose and decorticated (lacking heart) state, rendering them vulnerable to any scheme that comes along to enlist them in the Crusade and/or to prevent them from investigating further. The evidence for all this is everywhere available, actually unavoidable. Do we "grin and bear it" and find it "cute" and playing dumb? Playing dumb has never achieved anything but more of the same. Struggle against the Murderers of the world is not going to be pleasant, but laughing everything off on the Jewish plan would be infinitely more disastrous in its consequences for the popular masses of this world, including those deluded ciphers who make up the bulk of European and American "actors". "Laughter" helps to bring the pot of frogs to a boil without the frogs noticing.

[legitimategenius]

So what do you mean Xiao Banfa?

[Xiao Banfa]

I mean that the RPP has wacky, antisemitic friends.