Communist party,

[Red Puppy]

I haven't found any myself, perhaps one of you know something? Thanks in advance, comrades.

[Forward Union]

There is the Revolutionary Communist Party, and the Communist Party USA as a rule of thumb they're all avoidable. They are often incredibly reformist, and full of old people who haven't quite come to terms with the fact that the cold war is over. There are far better communist groups to join than the "communist parties" in the states.

I can still put you in touch if you would really like, send me a private message with your details and I'll forward it.

[Red Puppy]

If they are very reformist, then I want nothing to do with it! But thanks anyways.


(I need to edit the title of this, since I meant communist groups as a whole, not just the party... :wacko: )

[AlanMaki]

I hope you might consider checking out my blog in making your decision.

There is an interesting discussion just under this discussion about the Communist Party USA... about "being obscure" or something like that.

"Revisionism" is a word very over used without providing any clear definition.

I have only been on this site a short time but I see this word thrown about quite indiscriminately in my opinion.

I tried to bring some practical ideas on "revisionism" to the discussion.

Organizations and Parties are not "revisionist" even though at times revisionism raises its ugly head and sometimes becomes dominant.

But, in a capitalist society, would you really expect this to be otherwise? If so, why? I don't ask these question to avoid discussion but to find out what you and others are thinking.

Working people have to be constantly involved and active participants in the class struggle in every way, including in the decision making processes of unions or revolutionary organizations and parties. Or else revisionism will always raise its ugly, non-struggle head--- always.

I have found that when "leaders" who think it their job to do the thinking for the rest of us are allowed to make it into leadership positions they will almost always deviate in some way--- whether revisionist, class collaborationist, or of the ultra-leftist variety--- but, always the consequences are essentially the same; the struggles for the everyday needs of working people for better wages and working conditions is divorced from the struggle for socialism, and more often than not completely extricates the working class from any struggle.

It is unfortunate that such a person and a small clique of revisionists has risen to leadership positions in the Communist Party USA today.

But, this is no reason not to join with us to help straighten out this problem as we struggle for peace, social and economic justice, and socialism.

As has been pointed out, the Communist Party USA has been part of some very important struggles, and continues to be in spite of these difficulties.

The struggle to save the St. Paul, Minnesota Ford Twin Cities Assembly Plant and two-thousand jobs is but one example. I can give you all kinds of examples of other activities our members are involved in.

And, even if there isn't a Communist Party Club where you live/work/go to school we will help you organize a Club.

Feel free to contact me in private, or respond on here.

[which doctor]

Isn't Fifth Estate in Tennessee somewhere? They might be from Kentucky. They're not communist though, anarchist.


The struggle to save the St. Paul, Minnesota Ford Twin Cities Assembly Plant and two-thousand jobs is but one example. I can give you all kinds of examples of other activities our members are involved in.
The goal is Marxists should not be to save jobs, but to destroy the very institution which is destroying the jobs.

[fidel59]

Party for Socialism and Liberation in Chattanooga, right now we are a branch of one, but we are just getting started! And we ant reformist we are Revolutionaries...

[manic expression]

Originally posted by [email protected] 12, 2007 09:19 pm
The goal is Marxists should not be to save jobs, but to destroy the very institution which is destroying the jobs.
Of course, but demanding your job stay put, profits be damned, is part of class struggle, no?

[AlanMaki]

Interesting.

I never heard of revolutionaries who didn't want to defend the interests of working people as we struggle for socialism.

A job is kind of an important thing to working people.

[anonymous red]

Originally posted by [email protected] 13, 2007 03:21 am
Interesting.

I never heard of revolutionaries who didn't want to defend the interests of working people as we struggle for socialism.

A job is kind of an important thing to working people.
practicality is often overlooked here.

[KC]

The goal is Marxists should not be to save jobs, but to destroy the very institution which is destroying the jobs.

The goal of communists in this situation is to support the workers in their immediate demands while at the same time presenting them with a Marxist viewpoint on why it is happening.

So, the goal of the communists here really is to save the jobs while working towards bringing consciousness to the workers which will lead to "destroy[ing] the very institution which is destroying the jobs."