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IcarusAngel
10th December 2007, 20:17
He claims that Darwinism is just a remnant from Britain, used to justify its imperialistic foreign policy.

I'm not making this up:



Darwinism, the notion that the history of organisms was the story of the survival of the fittest and most hardy, and that organisms evolve because they are stronger and more dominant than others, is a perfect example of the age from which it came: the age of Imperialism. When Darwin wrote, it was received wisdom that the white, northern European man was destined to rule the world. This could have been rationalized as greed–i.e., Europeans simply taking the resources of nations and tribes less well organized than they were. It could have been worked out as a form of amusement of the upper classes and a place for them to realize their martial fantasies. (Was it Shaw who called Imperialism “…outdoor relief for the upper classes?”)

But it fell to a true Imperialist, from a wealthy British family on both sides, married to a wealthy British woman, writing at the height of Imperialism in the UK, when a huge hunk of Africa and Asia was “owned” (literally, owned, by Great Britain) to create a scientific theory that rationalized Imperialism. By explaining that Imperialism worked from the level of the most modest organic life up to man, and that in every organic situation, the strong dominated the weak and eventually wiped them out..

Darwin offered the most compelling argument yet for Imperialism. It was neither good nor bad, neither Liberal nor Conservative, but simply a fact of nature. In dominating Africa and Asia, Britain was simply acting in accordance with the dictates of life itself. He was the ultimate pitchman for Imperialism.

Since he doesn't like evolution he also compares it to another thing conservatives don't like: Marxism.

http://www.expelledthemovie.com/blog/

Notice how he doesn't justify his position with direct quotes, evidence, etc. to show that Darwin was writing about evolution just to help establish white male rule around the world. Maybe he saved that for the documentary.

Anyway, he says that Darwinism is about to die in science, and the only reason it's not taught in our schools is because "darwinists" are afraid to be "challenged" (I don't think that's the real reason).

Here's the trailer:

http://www.expelledthemovie.com/playground.php

While it does look like a slick documentary, it seems to be the same old BS from conservative creationists, although he does do the "anyone? anyone?" thing from Ferris Bueller at the end. :lol:

Os Cangaceiros
10th December 2007, 20:43
I don't think even Ben Stein with his ten pound brain will be able to debunk evolution. It's not 100% bulletproof, but it's a pretty solid theory, in my opinion. Besides, they've conducted experiments in controlled environments that demonstrate it to an extent.

This criticism should be interesting though, considering that it isn't in fact from a conservative creationist. I think that Stein is a Libertarian, if my memory serves me correctly.

Will he present an alternative theory? "Intelligent design", per chance? :lol:

Kwisatz Haderach
10th December 2007, 20:59
Wow, this guy obviously put a whole lot of time and effort into constructing one giant ad hominem fallacy pretending to be a documentary.

The Advent of Anarchy
10th December 2007, 21:24
I've seen how Christians try to debunk Evolution. I was passing across the channels when I came across a monkey on the Christian Channel. I figure that they had Bush on, so I decided to watch a bit of it. Here's what they said:

"You see this monkey? It can smile *orangutan smiles* Frown *orangutan makes a pouty lower lip frown face* and clap *orangutan claps at the ability for the narrarator to name the facial features* like a human can. However, does this MEAN that this monkey evolved into a human? DOES IT?! Nope! Take a look at these cheap graphics I made on my computer in my mommy's basement! You see this biplane image, and this WWII Messershmidt; These both have wings, right? They have propellors, right? They can fly right? Does this mean that the Messershmidt evolved from the biplane?! DOES IT?! NO! HA HA HA! I JUST PWNED EVOLUTION! HAIL JESUS! DO NOT LOSE YOUR VIRGINITY, BUT JUST MASTURBATE LIKE I DO!"

Me: O_o *changes channel to TV Land*

Os Cangaceiros
10th December 2007, 21:52
Originally posted by [email protected] 10, 2007 09:23 pm
I've seen how Christians try to debunk Evolution. I was passing across the channels when I came across a monkey on the Christian Channel. I figure that they had Bush on, so I decided to watch a bit of it. Here's what they said:

"You see this monkey? It can smile *orangutan smiles* Frown *orangutan makes a pouty lower lip frown face* and clap *orangutan claps at the ability for the narrarator to name the facial features* like a human can. However, does this MEAN that this monkey evolved into a human? DOES IT?! Nope! Take a look at these cheap graphics I made on my computer in my mommy's basement! You see this biplane image, and this WWII Messershmidt; These both have wings, right? They have propellors, right? They can fly right? Does this mean that the Messershmidt evolved from the biplane?! DOES IT?! NO! HA HA HA! I JUST PWNED EVOLUTION! HAIL JESUS! DO NOT LOSE YOUR VIRGINITY, BUT JUST MASTURBATE LIKE I DO!"

Me: O_o *changes channel to TV Land*
“You ever noticed how people who believe in Creationism look really unevolved? You ever noticed that? Eyes real close together, eyebrow ridges, big furry hands and feet. "I believe God created me in one day" Yeah, looks like He rushed it.”

- Bill Hicks

Lenin II
11th December 2007, 21:52
Originally posted by [email protected] 10, 2007 09:23 pm
I've seen how Christians try to debunk Evolution. I was passing across the channels when I came across a monkey on the Christian Channel. I figure that they had Bush on, so I decided to watch a bit of it. Here's what they said:

"You see this monkey? It can smile *orangutan smiles* Frown *orangutan makes a pouty lower lip frown face* and clap *orangutan claps at the ability for the narrarator to name the facial features* like a human can. However, does this MEAN that this monkey evolved into a human? DOES IT?! Nope! Take a look at these cheap graphics I made on my computer in my mommy's basement! You see this biplane image, and this WWII Messershmidt; These both have wings, right? They have propellors, right? They can fly right? Does this mean that the Messershmidt evolved from the biplane?! DOES IT?! NO! HA HA HA! I JUST PWNED EVOLUTION! HAIL JESUS! DO NOT LOSE YOUR VIRGINITY, BUT JUST MASTURBATE LIKE I DO!"

Me: O_o *changes channel to TV Land*
Spot on imitation of them, but instead of saying "masturbate like I do," it should be, "molest little boys and animals and fuck old people out of thier hard-earned money for my living while preaching the writings of some dead motherfucker all day like I do."

Just a thought.

Dean
12th December 2007, 09:33
Originally posted by Lenin II+December 11, 2007 09:51 pm--> (Lenin II @ December 11, 2007 09:51 pm)
[email protected] 10, 2007 09:23 pm
I've seen how Christians try to debunk Evolution. I was passing across the channels when I came across a monkey on the Christian Channel. I figure that they had Bush on, so I decided to watch a bit of it. Here's what they said:

"You see this monkey? It can smile *orangutan smiles* Frown *orangutan makes a pouty lower lip frown face* and clap *orangutan claps at the ability for the narrarator to name the facial features* like a human can. However, does this MEAN that this monkey evolved into a human? DOES IT?! Nope! Take a look at these cheap graphics I made on my computer in my mommy's basement! You see this biplane image, and this WWII Messershmidt; These both have wings, right? They have propellors, right? They can fly right? Does this mean that the Messershmidt evolved from the biplane?! DOES IT?! NO! HA HA HA! I JUST PWNED EVOLUTION! HAIL JESUS! DO NOT LOSE YOUR VIRGINITY, BUT JUST MASTURBATE LIKE I DO!"

Me: O_o *changes channel to TV Land*
Spot on imitation of them, but instead of saying "masturbate like I do," it should be, "molest little boys and animals and fuck old people out of thier hard-earned money for my living while preaching the writings of some dead motherfucker all day like I do."

Just a thought. [/b]
It just doesn't have the same ring...

MT5678
23rd December 2007, 07:10
damn, anti-evolution is not the path the left should take. Remember that humans are too genetically similar, and that there are more intra-race differences than inter-race differences, for there to be an evolutionary trajectory for racial superiority. Therefore, evolution was used as an excuse for imperialism, but it was a false one.

Don't make ad hominem fallacies. jamas.