nanobots!

[Pawn Power]

Within a couple of decades, we will have "nanobots" in our blood stream, basically small robots the size of blood cells, that will keep us healthy at the cellular and molecular level. There are already dozens of successful experiments with a first generation of such devices in animals. One scientist cured type-I diabetes in rats with a blood cell-sized device, and scientists at MIT have microscopic devices that can scout out cancer cells in the bloodstream and destroy them. These devices will be a billion times more powerful than they are today in 25 years, and will continue the accelerating path to radical life extension.

Bring on the nanobots, and we will live long and prosper (http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/story/0,,2214930,00.html)

Life sucks so I don't see why everyone want to live so long...

[piet11111]

primitivist :o BAN !!!

i want to life as long as possible because life can be fun and with nanobots keeping the defects of old age away we can life as long as we want (aslong as accidents dont happen) and actually life to see the revolution.

[Lynx]

Nanobots in the brain too? Mind blowing!

[RedAnarchist]

Sounds good - if people are able to live longer, then perhaps the political apathy you find in many countries will decrease as people will be more concerned about society and the future.

[Herman]

I want to live forever. I want to be immortal. Nanobots, bring 'em on.

[piet11111]

since ageing is nothing more then the body's inability to repair damaged tissue fast enough means that immortality can indeed be achieved through nano-technology.

but its the possibility of using nano technology to replace normal bodytissue with stronger alternatives that i find facinating.
for instance we could alter our hearts to handle bigger strains and change our blood to be more efficient in getting oxygen around.
we could all be super athletes that would put the current top athletes to shame.

[Pawn Power]

Originally posted by [email protected] 14, 2007 10:59 am
since ageing is nothing more then the body's inability to repair damaged tissue fast enough means that immortality can indeed be achieved through nano-technology.

but its the possibility of using nano technology to replace normal bodytissue with stronger alternatives that i find facinating.
for instance we could alter our hearts to handle bigger strains and change our blood to be more efficient in getting oxygen around.
we could all be super athletes that would put the current top athletes to shame.
um, no. i don't think that that means "immortality" can be had through nano technology.

There are other things that can kill people.

[piet11111]

Originally posted by Pawn Power+December 15, 2007 06:19 pm--> (Pawn Power @ December 15, 2007 06:19 pm)
[email protected] 14, 2007 10:59 am
since ageing is nothing more then the body's inability to repair damaged tissue fast enough means that immortality can indeed be achieved through nano-technology.

but its the possibility of using nano technology to replace normal bodytissue with stronger alternatives that i find facinating.
for instance we could alter our hearts to handle bigger strains and change our blood to be more efficient in getting oxygen around.
we could all be super athletes that would put the current top athletes to shame.
um, no. i don't think that that means "immortality" can be had through nano technology.

There are other things that can kill people. [/b]
it would mean immortality as all natural causes for death could be eliminated.

accidents and murder are ofcourse not to be prevented with nano technology.

[Pawn Power]

Originally posted by [email protected] 15, 2007 02:52 pm

it would mean immortality as all natural causes for death could be eliminated.


i don't think so. spontaneous genetic mutations will still occur, which could lead to a variety of deathly ailments; stroke; aids; etc.

[mikelepore]

This have to be done in the right sequence. I think the next step is to develop, not nano, but human body sized, robots that can perform multiple tasks. Snap on the appropriate attachments and load the right software subroutines, and then the devices will either shovel the snow or cut the grass or wash the dishes. A software operating system, whose basic instructions will be about receiving sensor data, activating servos, etc., has to be developed. Then miniaturization will come later, and the software to control the divices may be much the same as for large devices. Except for the size of the devices, the subroutines for removing cholesterol from arteries might be somewhat similar to the software for a large robot to dig a well.

[Comrade Rage]

Originally posted by Pawn Power+December 15, 2007 02:44 pm--> (Pawn Power @ December 15, 2007 02:44 pm)
[email protected] 15, 2007 02:52 pm

it would mean immortality as all natural causes for death could be eliminated.


i don't think so. spontaneous genetic mutations will still occur, which could lead to a variety of deathly ailments; stroke; aids; etc. [/b]
Death by old age will become obsolete, though. If not now, sometime within the next 100 years.

The only problem I forsee is if we have accomplished that, and haven't found another planet to colonize or whatever. I've heard that if that's the case, reproduction will have to be banned, which will be extremely unfortunate.

Ironic. :D

[Pawn Power]

Originally posted by COMRADE CRUM+December 15, 2007 04:51 pm--> (COMRADE CRUM @ December 15, 2007 04:51 pm)
Originally posted by Pawn [email protected] 15, 2007 02:44 pm

[email protected] 15, 2007 02:52 pm

it would mean immortality as all natural causes for death could be eliminated.


i don't think so. spontaneous genetic mutations will still occur, which could lead to a variety of deathly ailments; stroke; aids; etc.
Death by old age will become obsolete, though. If not now, sometime within the next 100 years.

The only problem I forsee is if we have accomplished that, and haven't found another planet to colonize or whatever. I've heard that if that's the case, reproduction will have to be banned, which will be extremely unfortunate.

Ironic. :D [/b]
What is "death by old age" and how does it actually kill you?

[piet11111]

Originally posted by Pawn Power+December 15, 2007 08:44 pm--> (Pawn Power @ December 15, 2007 08:44 pm)
[email protected] 15, 2007 02:52 pm

it would mean immortality as all natural causes for death could be eliminated.


i don't think so. spontaneous genetic mutations will still occur, which could lead to a variety of deathly ailments; stroke; aids; etc. [/b]
those could be prevented/cured with nano-bots.

[Bradshaw the Nocturnal]

The problem is this revolution will be seized by those who are (unfortunately) rich enough to afford it and it will be manopolized and will perpetuate capitalism.
Has anyone here read "The Trouble with Lichen" by John Wyndam? It essentialy tells about a lichen wich stops againg through some means or another and the corruption of humaity that occurs.

While I&#39;m all for stopping aging I doubt it will help our cause, if anything it will make people want to make more money so they can live long lives in leisure and thus perpetuate Capitalism... sad but IMHO true <_<

[RevMARKSman]

Originally posted by Bradshaw the [email protected] 16, 2007 04:56 pm
The problem is this revolution will be seized by those who are (unfortunately) rich enough to afford it and it will be manopolized and will perpetuate capitalism.
Has anyone here read "The Trouble with Lichen" by John Wyndam? It essentialy tells about a lichen wich stops againg through some means or another and the corruption of humaity that occurs.

While I&#39;m all for stopping aging I doubt it will help our cause, if anything it will make people want to make more money so they can live long lives in leisure and thus perpetuate Capitalism... sad but IMHO true <_<
I assume the nanobots don&#39;t have some sort of special superpower the protects the user from a gun to the head.

What, did you assume that capitalism will only last as long as the current generation of capitalists?

I&#39;m all for it. Microbiology > all.

[Herman]

which will be extremely unfortunate.

Why? Condoms are there for a reason.

[Lynx]

Why do old people die? Cos they&#39;re not healthy.

[Pawn Power]

Originally posted by piet11111+December 16, 2007 12:26 pm--> (piet11111 @ December 16, 2007 12:26 pm)
Originally posted by Pawn [email protected] 15, 2007 08:44 pm

[email protected] 15, 2007 02:52 pm

it would mean immortality as all natural causes for death could be eliminated.


i don&#39;t think so. spontaneous genetic mutations will still occur, which could lead to a variety of deathly ailments; stroke; aids; etc.
those could be prevented/cured with nano-bots. [/b]
nanobots are going to prevent spontaneous genetic mutation? I sure hope not since mutations are the basis for all genetic variation&#33;

[Janus]

I think biological immortality may still be in the extremely distant future since there are other factors that lead to aging besides tissue damage. However, with the nanotechnology levels mentioned in the article, it would be possible to dramatically prolong life expectancy (probably on par with the recent estimates made by the biologist Aubrey Gray). But in the meantime, we should continue research while remaining mindful of and managing the risks and possible harmful applications of the technology.