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Red Terror Doctor
9th December 2007, 00:20
http://www.newsweek.com/id/74230

spartan
9th December 2007, 00:39
I thought that something like this would happen.

Chavez proves to the whole world that he isnt the mad dictator, that all the Bourgeoisie media made him out to be, by accepting a referendum defeat with good grace so the Bourgeoisie media find a completly new way to demonize him <_<

This sort of shit really makes my blood boil :angry:

Though admittidly it is the least that i have come to expect from the mainstream Bourgeoisie western media.

coda
9th December 2007, 01:33
hey check out who wrote the article -- the guy who wrote the Che biography,
Compaņero: The Life and Death of Che Guevara-- when all those shit loads of Che books came out about 10 years ago. from what i remember this guy also took extreme license with some of the personal details of Che&#39;s life, too and is pretty much an anti-communist.

http://www.foreignaffairs.org/20060501faes...-left-turn.html (http://www.foreignaffairs.org/20060501faessay85302/jorge-g-castaneda/latin-america-s-left-turn.html)

SouthernBelle82
9th December 2007, 02:54
Originally posted by [email protected] 09, 2007 01:32 am
hey check out who wrote the article -- the guy who wrote the Che biography,
Compaņero: The Life and Death of Che Guevara-- when all those shit loads of Che books came out about 10 years ago. from what i remember this guy also took extreme license with some of the personal details of Che&#39;s life, too and is pretty much an anti-communist.

http://www.foreignaffairs.org/20060501faes...-left-turn.html (http://www.foreignaffairs.org/20060501faessay85302/jorge-g-castaneda/latin-america-s-left-turn.html)
So what does that have to do with Chavez? Chavez isn&#39;t communist but is socialist. Not the same thing. Do you think he thinks they are? Sometimes people I&#39;ve talked to think they are.

coda
9th December 2007, 03:17
<<Do you think he thinks they are? Sometimes people I&#39;ve talked to think they are. >>


Who do you mean "he" and "they"?


Do I think Chavez is communist? yes, i think he would bring a full-fledged communist revolution if he was unobstructed in doing so, -- same as Castro.

RevSkeptic
9th December 2007, 04:45
You Socialists should really be smart enough to recognize the squeal of a dying skunk.

Chavez won by losing and basically pushed his hypocritical rivals into a corner. Having a king respond with nothing more than "shut up" and not "you&#39;re a tyrant" or whatever else hypocritical B.S.? Now, that&#39;s what I call cunning as a fox.

The institution of a the presidency is simply incapable of operating in a grass roots Socialist system. It&#39;s sort of like asking for a free market trading system under a feudal power structure for kings and nobles which whole purpose for existence is to maintain the concept of bloodline royalty and the offering a tribute from commoners to royalty. An impossibility if there ever was one.

That being said the "democratic" system of electing a representative executive has limited shelf life if you&#39;re really going for Socialism of the grass roots kind unless you want to be elected referee of conflicting merchant interests and why would Chavez do that if he&#39;s a genuine Socialist and neither wants to be a dictator or referee (president I mean)?

Well, only if you guys really like dictators and not Socialism.

bootleg42
9th December 2007, 09:05
Originally posted by [email protected] 09, 2007 03:16 am
Do I think Chavez is communist? yes, i think he would bring a full-fledged communist revolution if he was unobstructed in doing so, -- same as Castro.
Maybe the people around him would. It&#39;s known that his brother (Adan Chavez) is a marxist and that many of the people who influence him and even some of his media defenders (mario silva for example) are known communists.

But they&#39;re taking a different path trying to prove that a violent revolution is not needed. Of course I wish them luck, as any communist should prefer that violence be a last option. I believe that it can be done BUT SOME violent conflict will probably occur (in fact many have already occurred).

And Chavez himself has stated, in his show alo presidente, that his people should not hate communism for it is a good thing. He also stated the need NOT to be dogmatic.