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marxist_god
5th December 2007, 19:32
Anybody here into "entrism"?? or has heard of the tactic of entrism? Well entrism means entering into a movement or party and trying to convert those party members to your own ideology, i am doing that, i am in the democrat party trying to convert democrats into revolutionary leftists

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Entryism
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Entryism (or entrism or enterism) is a political tactic by which an organisation encourages members to infiltrate another organisation in an attempt to gain recruits, or take over entirely.

In situations where the organisation being "entered" is hostile to entryism, the entryists may engage in a degree of subterfuge to hide the fact that they are, in fact, an organisation in their own right. In the case of the Militant tendency, this was done by claiming that the tendency was in fact simply a newspaper, Militant, its editorial board and readers. Militant was open about its support for Trotskyism and revolutionary socialism. Other entryist groups have gone to the extent of hiding both their political views and their organisational existence.

Entryism does not involve dissolving the small organisation into the larger one. Entryism is often (but not always) done secretly and often in organisations run on democratic centralist lines. Entryism is seen by some as a logical conclusion from Leninist political theory which postulates that a "revolutionary vanguard" can successfully foment a revolution within a larger capitalist society, but according to some, the strategy of entryism is as old as politics itself[1].

In Australia, the practice was widespread during the 1950s, where Communists battled against Catholics and other anti-Communists, known as 'Groupers', for control of Australian trade unions. The Groupers subsequently formed the breakaway Democratic Labor Party. Today the practice in Australia is often known as a type of branch stacking.

Entryism is not an exclusively left-wing phenomenon; it is also found in the far-right entering mainstream right-wing groups, e.g., National Front infiltration of National Council of Civil Liberties in the United Kingdom, and British National Party members joining the UK Independence Party. In the US, the John Birch Society and other groups were accused of entryism when Barry Goldwater was unexpectedly selected as the Republican Party candidate for US president in the 1964 election. In Australia, the ruling centre-right Liberal Party of Australia was accused of being taken over by a morally conservative group in 2006 [3].

Contents [hide]
1 Socialist entryism
1.1 Trotsky's "French Turn"
1.2 Deep entryism/entryism 'sui generis'
1.3 Open entryism
2 Religious entryism
3 In the United States
4 In Canada
5 In New Zealand
6 In the United Kingdom
7 References
8 External links
9 See also



[edit] Socialist entryism

[edit] Trotsky's "French Turn"
The French Turn refers to the classic form of entryism advocated by Leon Trotsky in his essays on "the French Turn": In June 1934, he proposed that the French Trotskyists dissolve their Communist League to join the French Socialist Party (the SFIO) and that it also dissolve its youth section to join more easily with revolutionary elements. The tactic was adopted in August 1934, despite some opposition. The turn successfully raised the group's membership to 300 activists.

Proponents of the tactic advocated that the Trotskyists should enter the social democratic parties to connect with revolutionary socialist currents within them, and steer those currents toward Leninism. However, entry lasted only for a brief period: the leadership of the SFIO started to expel the Trotskyists. The Trotskyists of Workers Party of the United States also successfully used their entry into the Socialist Party of America to recruit their youth group and other members. Similar tactics were also used by Trotskyist organisations in other countries, including The Netherlands, Belgium, Switzerland and Poland. Entrism was used to connect with and recruit leftward moving political currents inside radical parties.

Since the turn in France, Marxists have used the tactic even if they had different preconceptions of how long the period of entry would last.

A "split perspective" is sometimes employed in which the smaller party intends to remain in the larger party for a short period of time with the intention of splitting the organisation and leaving with more members than it began with.
The entry tactic can work successfully, in its own terms, over a long period. For example, it was attempted by the Militant tendency in Britain whose members worked within the Labour Party from the 1960s, on and managed to get a controlling influence in the Labour Party Young Socialists and Liverpool Council before being expelled in the 1980s. Many other Trotskyist groups have attempted similar feats but few have gained the influence Militant attained (See Militant's Problems of Entrism pamphlet).

[edit] Deep entryism/entryism 'sui generis'
In these types of entryism, entryists engage in a long-term perspective in which they work within an organisation for decades in hopes of gaining influence and a degree of power and perhaps even control of the larger organisation.

In 'entryism sui generis' (of a special type), Trotskyists, for example, do not openly argue for the building of a Trotskyist party. 'Deep entryism' refers to the long duration.

The tactic is closely identified with Michel Pablo and Gerry Healy, who were leaders of the Fourth International in the late 1940s and 1950s. The 'deep entry' tactic was developed as a way for Trotskyists to respond to the Cold War. In countries where there were mass social democratic or communist parties, it was as difficult to be accepted into these parties as Trotskyist currents as to build separate Trotskyist parties. Therefore Trotskyists were advised to enter secretly, and not to come forward as Trotskyists with their full program.

In Europe, this was the approach used, for example, by The Club in the Labour Party, and by Fourth Internationalists inside the Communist Parties. In France, Trotskyist organizations, most notably the Parti des Travailleurs, have successfully entered Communist-led trade unions and mainstream left-wing parties (see Lionel Jospin for a famous example).


[edit] Open entryism
Some political parties, such as the Workers' Party in Brazil or the Scottish Socialist Party allow political tendencies to openly organise within them. In these cases the term entryism is not usually used. Political groups which work within a larger organisation but also maintain a "public face" often reject the term "entryism" but are nevertheless sometimes considered to be entryists by the larger organisation.


[edit] Religious entryism
A similar technique is used by the Aryan Nations' religious branch, the Church of Jesus Christ-Christian, Christian Identity, and the Creativity Movement in taking over small churches.[citation needed] The Church of Scientology has also practiced entryism in taking over Alcoholics Anonymous meetings.[citation needed]


[edit] In the United States
During the 2000 presidential election in the United States, some members of the Reform Party, which had been founded by Ross Perot, charged that the presidential campaign of Pat Buchanan was engaging in entryism. However, while a large number of new members did join to support Buchanan, he did not maintain a large separate organisation outside of the Reform Party. It is worth noting that, after the election, many of Buchanan's support did split from the Reform Party, taking several state organizations with them, to form the America First Party. The America First Party itself was quickly engaged in a controversy involving alleged entryism by supporters of James "Bo" Gritz.

Another example of charges of entryism involving the United States Reform Party involved supporters of Fred Newman and the New Alliance Party joining the Reform Party en masse and gaining some level of control over the New York State affiliate of the Reform Party. Another United States politician, Lyndon LaRouche, has attempted an entryist strategy in the Democratic Party since 1980, but with little success.

The two major parties regularly complain of entryism tactics by the other, notably by the GOP, leading to the term 'dirty tricks' being associated with the right wing since the Nixon Era. Recently, in 2007 the Republicans settled a lawsuit in New Hampshire with the Democrats after accusation of infiltration. In addition, GOP and Libertarian Party chapters have complained of takeover by religious or police elements, in one case in Colorado leading to scandal when the charges led to police department shake-ups.

Small parties in recent years have also complained. The US Libertarian Party has lost, according to its annual reports, nearly 90% of its members after a group called the Libertarian Reform Caucus, which its literature[citation needed] says was formed by Republican, Green and former Libertarian Party 'big tent' libertarians de-funded local Libertarian affiliates and 'overturned' the long standing LP platform when it took control in the 2006 convention, leading to the collapse of three quarters of its state parties. The Green and Constitutionalist parties have experienced splits after similar complaints. In common is the appearance of members calling for a more moderate platform, charges of lack of financial transparency, and claims the party must 'get professional' even as archives and resources vanish and positions seem to be quickly changed to support other parties.

Also, complaints of entryism among non-party activist groups have appeared in many chat groups.


[edit] In Canada
Although the term entryism was used little if at all, opponents accused David Orchard and his supporters of attempting to win the leadership of the former Progressive Conservative Party in the late 1990s and early 2000s with the intention of dramatically changing its policies.

Orchard had made his name as a leading opponent of free trade, which was perhaps the singular signature policy of the Progressive Conservative government of Brian Mulroney in the late 1980s and early 1990s. While opponents pointed to this remarkable distance, Orchard and his supporters argued that they represented "traditional" Tory values and economic nationalism that the older Conservative Party, and the Progressive Conservative party before Mulroney, had espoused, namely that of John Diefenbaker.

Opponents of the 2003 merger between the Progressive Conservative and Canadian Alliance parties also charged Alliance members with entryism. It was widely speculated that most, if not all of the approximately 25,000 Canadians who swelled the PC Party's membership before the merger vote were Alliance members. They would likely have voted in favour of the merger.

Liberals for Life, a pro-life group allied with the Campaign Life Coalition, was accused of practicing entryism in the Liberal Party of Canada in the late 1980s and early 1990s.

Members of Socialist Action, a small Trotskyist group, play a leading role in the New Democratic Party Socialist Caucus, a small faction on the left wing of that social democratic party, and advocate that their members join and engage with the NDP.


[edit] In New Zealand
In New Zealand, Marxist-Leninist organisations were never very large. The oldest, the former Communist Party of New Zealand, never seems to have espoused entryism as a political tactic, and members of Marxist-Leninist organisations openly participated in the heyday of the New Zealand peace movement, or in international solidarity movements against US imperialism in Latin America or apartheid, during the seventies and eighties.

However, the same cannot be said of New Zealand's Christian Right. While the Coalition of Concerned Citizens infiltrated the National Party shortly before the New Zealand 1987 general election, it met with little success. As a result of this abortive gesture, National quietly centralised its candidate selection procedures.


[edit] In the United Kingdom
The Guardian columnist, George Monbiot claims that a group influenced by the defunct right-libertarian Living Marxism magazine have pursued entryist tactics amongst scientific and media organisations in the UK, since the late 1990s.[2][3]


[edit] References
^ David Robertson, The Routledge Dictionary of Politics ISBN 0-415-32377-0
^ The Guardian comment, Dec 9, 2003. "Invasion of the entryists" by George Monbiot. Online at [1] and [2], retrieved on October 25, 2007.
^ The Times Higher Education Supplement, Jan 28, 2005. "What's a nice Trot doing in a place like this?" by Chris Bunting. Online at author's website, retrieved on October 25, 2007.

[edit] External links
"Problems of Entrism" by Ted Grant with an introduction by Peter Taaffe and various writings by Leon Trotsky as published in a Militant tendency booklet.

[edit] See also
Front organization
Revolutionary Communist Party
Mick Hume
Claire Fox
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YSR
6th December 2007, 20:55
i am doing that, i am in the democrat party trying to convert democrats into revolutionary leftists

What a tremendous waste of time.

"Converting" liberals into revolutionary leftists doesn't make any sense. Converting workers into revolutionaries is what we need to be doing. Not small shop owners, academics, corrupt politicians and the other types that populate the Democratic Party.

That's not to say that Democrats shouldn't be targeted, obviously they should be, but not Democrats-as-Democrats, but rather Democrats-as-workers.

Herman
6th December 2007, 22:42
i am doing that, i am in the democrat party trying to convert democrats into revolutionary leftists

You realize that what you are doing is useless. Democrats aren't even leftist. They range from center-right, center and a minority in the center-left

bolshevik butcher
7th December 2007, 00:31
The vital difference between the democrats and the mass soical democrtaic parties or mass stalinist communist parites is their class character. While often led by reactionary leaderships the organisations i mentioned had a working class character, in that these organsiations were/are traditional mass organsiations of the working class and recieve conscious working class support. Through this entryists are able to effectively raise socialist ideas in polls of attractions to the working class. The Democrats do not attract concscious working class support as they are everybit as much a bourgoirse party as the republicans.

Dros
8th December 2007, 04:31
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Have fun waisting your time.

Entrism is used against small orginizations mainly. If there is an anarchist group with fifteen people and you get thirty communists to join, it becomes a communist group. Good luck with the Democratic Party...

apathy maybe
8th December 2007, 04:41
Except that if you get 30 "communists" (by which I assume you mean some variant of Leninist), joining an anarchist group, the anarchists all up and quit, starting an identical group as was there before. Without the "communists".

The funny thing about most 'small' anarchist groups, is that unless they are incorporated or something, or have some other legal existence, they are remarkably easy to dissolve.


On Entryism, in Australia the DSP attempted to get a lot of members joining the Greens when they first became a force in politics. A funny thing happened, they all got kicked out, and the Greens introduced a membership rule saying that you could only be a member of the Greens, and no other political party. I would suggest that to expect any real success from the tactic is delusional.

bolshevik butcher
8th December 2007, 13:28
Originally posted by [email protected] 08, 2007 04:30 am
Entrism is used against small orginizations mainly.
:huh: Entryism as a political tactic is most famous and generally on the revolutionary left a tactic applied by smaller revolutionary organisations towards larger organisations , usually mass working class parites, in order to gain influence and capitalise on class consciousness that exists inside these organisations in order to further marxist ideas and to expand the revolutionary organistion.

Dros
8th December 2007, 21:29
Originally posted by apathy [email protected] 08, 2007 04:40 am
Except that if you get 30 "communists" (by which I assume you mean some variant of Leninist), joining an anarchist group, the anarchists all up and quit, starting an identical group as was there before. Without the "communists".

The funny thing about most 'small' anarchist groups, is that unless they are incorporated or something, or have some other legal existence, they are remarkably easy to dissolve.


On Entryism, in Australia the DSP attempted to get a lot of members joining the Greens when they first became a force in politics. A funny thing happened, they all got kicked out, and the Greens introduced a membership rule saying that you could only be a member of the Greens, and no other political party. I would suggest that to expect any real success from the tactic is delusional.
My example is not to be taken all to literally either numerically or in terms of ideology.

My point is that entrism is the act of one ideological group actively joining an orginization (which is in my opinion usually a small one) and trying to either coopt it or change it's ideology.


Entryism as a political tactic is most famous and generally on the revolutionary left a tactic applied by smaller revolutionary organisations towards larger organisations , usually mass working class parites, in order to gain influence and capitalise on class consciousness that exists inside these organisations in order to further marxist ideas and to expand the revolutionary organistion.

I guess. I've never really thought of that as entrism so much as recruiting. The way I've seen it used is that it is used to actually change the ideology of an orginization by bringing in new members.

which doctor
8th December 2007, 21:35
Originally posted by [email protected] 06, 2007 05:41 pm

i am doing that, i am in the democrat party trying to convert democrats into revolutionary leftists

You realize that what you are doing is useless. Democrats aren't even leftist. They range from center-right, center and a minority in the center-left
What makes you the authority on what is left and what is right?

Herman
9th December 2007, 00:24
What makes you the authority on what is left and what is right?

It's the traditional way of measuring one's political position.

What makes you the authority to say otherwise?

Aurora
9th December 2007, 03:45
Originally posted by drosera99
My point is that entrism is the act of one ideological group actively joining an orginization (which is in my opinion usually a small one) and trying to either coopt it or change it's ideology.
Well your very clearly wrong,entryism is a tactic used to recruit radical elements of the working class from within large left/social-democratic parties.Clearly your full of shit.

Dros
9th December 2007, 05:40
Originally posted by Anarion+December 09, 2007 03:44 am--> (Anarion @ December 09, 2007 03:44 am)
drosera99
My point is that entrism is the act of one ideological group actively joining an orginization (which is in my opinion usually a small one) and trying to either coopt it or change it's ideology.
Well your very clearly wrong,entryism is a tactic used to recruit radical elements of the working class from within large left/social-democratic parties.Clearly your full of shit. [/b]
Ahh... I love meaningless, unprovoked, ad hominem attacks.

Thank you for your incredibly constructive post, you dumb fuck.

Edit: "Entryism (or entrism or enterism) is a political tactic by which an organisation encourages members to infiltrate another organisation in an attempt to gain recruits, or take over entirely."

Go fuck yourself. If you are going to take over the other orginization, and you are a leftist, it will probably be small. Good luck trying to take over the Democratic Party or the Labor Party.

marxist_god
10th December 2007, 02:49
Originally posted by drosera99+December 09, 2007 05:39 am--> (drosera99 @ December 09, 2007 05:39 am)
Originally posted by [email protected] 09, 2007 03:44 am

drosera99
My point is that entrism is the act of one ideological group actively joining an orginization (which is in my opinion usually a small one) and trying to either coopt it or change it's ideology.
Well your very clearly wrong,entryism is a tactic used to recruit radical elements of the working class from within large left/social-democratic parties.Clearly your full of shit.
Ahh... I love meaningless, unprovoked, ad hominem attacks.

Thank you for your incredibly constructive post, you dumb fuck.

Edit: "Entryism (or entrism or enterism) is a political tactic by which an organisation encourages members to infiltrate another organisation in an attempt to gain recruits, or take over entirely."

Go fuck yourself. If you are going to take over the other orginization, and you are a leftist, it will probably be small. Good luck trying to take over the Democratic Party or the Labor Party. [/b]


hahaha, marxist, leninist, maoist, take it easy my friend !!


Well i say the same to you: good luck with your maoist, marxist leninist theories


marxist_god