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Red Terror Doctor
4th December 2007, 16:06
Marx was right when he said in his Communist Manifesto that capitalism has done wonders unprecedented in history. Just look at Dubai as an example. But there is out and out slave labor in Dubai. Surely, this city looks aesthetically pretty but at what human cost??? I hope the workers revolt. Check out this description:

Dubai has over 250,000 foreign laborers, many of whom live in conditions described by Human Rights Watch as being "less than human". NPR reports that workers "typically live eight to a room, sending home a portion of their salary to their families, whom they don't see for years at a time." The BBC has reported that "local newspapers often carry stories of construction workers allegedly not being paid for months on end. They are not allowed to move jobs and if they leave the country to go home they will almost certainly lose the money they say they are owed. In September 2005, the Minister of Labour ordered one company to pay unpaid salaries within 24 hours after workers protested, and published the name of the offending company. In December 2005, the Indian consulate in Dubai submitted a report to the Government of India detailing labor problems faced by Indian expatriates in the emirate. The report highlighted delayed payment of wages, substitution of employment contracts, premature termination of services and excessive working hours as being some of the challenges faced by Indian workers in the city. On 21 March 2006, workers at the construction site of Burj Dubai, upset over bus timings and working conditions, rioted damaging cars, offices, computers, and construction tools. The city's apparent discriminatory legal system and unequal treatment of foreigners has been brought to light by its alleged attempts to cover up information on the rape of Alexandre Robert, a 15 year old French national, by three locals, and by the recent mass imprisonment of migrant laborers, most of whom were from India, on account of their protests against poor wages and living conditions.

Prostitution, though illegal by law, is conspicuously present in the emirate because of an economy that is largely based on tourism and trade. Research conducted by the American Center for International Policy Studies (AMCIPS) found that Russian and Ethiopian women are the most common prostitutes, as well as women from some African countries, while Indian prostitutes are part of a well organized trans-Oceanic prostitution network. A 2007 PBS documentary entitled Dubai: Night Secrets reported that prostitution in clubs is tolerated by authorities and many foreign women work there without being coerced, attracted by the money.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/10/12/...in3361753.shtml (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/10/12/60minutes/main3361753.shtml)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dubai

Red Terror Doctor
5th December 2007, 00:39
How they love to exploit!!!! Then they call themselves "visionaries." What more visionary could it be than to free labor from the oppressive forces of capital!
These people running Dubai are totally without conscience!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xdjcQ0ZJVA&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHMTUqCUMO8



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eUcRjo9Yv4&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYDc8V5bhbg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNnfU1CAZYA&feature=related


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTyks-IRFPY&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ee03jjwn958

RevSkeptic
5th December 2007, 07:12
Something is seriously wrong with your conclusion:

Minister of Labour ordered one company to pay unpaid salaries within 24 hours after workers protested, and published the name of the offending company.

Obviously it isn't official policy, otherwise the government wouldn't get involved in ordering private companies around.

"Night Secrets reported that prostitution in clubs is tolerated by authorities and many foreign women work there without being coerced, attracted by the money."

Obviously these "oppressed" prostitutes plan to strike it rich because they're attracted by the money.

In December 2005, the Indian consulate in Dubai submitted a report to the Government of India detailing labor problems faced by Indian expatriates in the emirate. The report highlighted delayed payment of wages, substitution of employment contracts, premature termination of services and excessive working hours as being some of the challenges faced by Indian workers in the city.

India, has it's own homegrown Maoist insurgency. If they're so desperate to be liberated out of they're oppression why didn't they join their native insurgency instead?

Obviously the conditions here must be even better than India. And what are these people going to do back home? Oppress the "untouchables" and burn their ex-wives?

LSD
5th December 2007, 07:35
The UAE is rather famous for its miserable treatment of foreign labourers, but that doesn't preclude that those labourers might still be better off than they would be at home.

That's the real tragedy of capitalism. Most of the time the choice isn't between a rock and a hard place, but between two rocks.


Obviously these "oppressed" prostitutes plan to strike it rich because they're attracted by the money.

Or maybe they just want to survive? Something that requires money in a capitalist society.

Seriously, what's you're interest here? You can't possibly be defending the UAE's labour policies, so why are you being needlessly antagonistic?


India, has it's own homegrown Maoist insurgency. If they're so desperate to be liberated out of they're oppression why didn't they join their native insurgency instead?

That is quite possibly the stupidest comment I have ever read on this board.

RevSkeptic
5th December 2007, 07:59
Seriously, what's you're interest here? You can't possibly be defending the UAE's labour policies, so why are you being needlessly antagonistic?

Just curious, but skeptical. But, since Capitalism is a world system that means there are some places where labour conditions are slacker because of labour protection laws. Why did the foreign workers pick Dubai? Some of them are motivated by something else.



India, has it's own homegrown Maoist insurgency. If they're so desperate to be liberated out of they're oppression why didn't they join their native insurgency instead?

That is quite possibly the stupidest comment I have ever read on this board.

What are the options though? Flee, Reform, Agitate, Fight...

What else?

By the way MLK and the civil rights movement wasn't Communist, but they fought and won some improvements for their ethnic group. Why does India still have the caste system after kicking out the British for half a decade? What's the excuse there?

RevSkeptic
5th December 2007, 09:20
Seriously, Dubai sticks out like a sore thumb in the desert, no the world.

So, why go there? It's like working for the richest fucker in the neighborhood to build his mansion if he waves his dollar bills at you. Are these workers so easily bribed?

Don't build that mansion and go somewhere else.