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Cheung Mo
3rd December 2007, 01:01
I have a funny feeling that anyone who fought on the Republican side of the war gelt like strangling Zapatero for his siding with Franco's appointee. Nearly 30% of Spain's population is on Chavez's side, indicating that there are still a strong core of progressive and revolutionary Spaniards who have read the history books and are well aware of the truth: Nonetheless, it's because of these good people that Spain has a couple of things right compared to most bourgeois states...Copyright laws are laxer than Canada's, a stark contrast between the totalitarian coproatism forced down the throat of the French and USians. Furthermore, cannabis prohibtion is impossible to enforce in private settings due to the immense latitude that Spanish law gives to behaviour in one's home. Best of all, in certain left-wing parts of Spain, fascists are so unwelcome in pubs that they tend to be violently shown the door and too scared to go out.,

Colonello Buendia
3rd December 2007, 10:13
Of all the capitalist countries, Spain is the best, followed by Italy. They both have a strong left though in Italy it&#39;s very divided and they have a generally leftist leaning society. Is it weird than in two ex-fascist nations there is a strong left while in the ex USSR fascism is on the rise? :blink: <_<

Comrade Wolfie's Very Nearly Banned Adventures
3rd December 2007, 10:38
Right chaps its of to re-start the spanish civil war and win, everybody come to mine for tea and buscits before we go&#33;

I was thinking about this last night oddly enough.. what happend to all those who fought and supported the Republic after the Civil War?

Spain seems to be pretty liberal to me... and the Basque country is a loverly place to go.

RaiseYourVoice
3rd December 2007, 10:43
Originally posted by Dr [email protected] 03, 2007 12:12 pm
Of all the capitalist countries, Spain is the best, followed by Italy. They both have a strong left though in Italy it&#39;s very divided and they have a generally leftist leaning society. Is it weird than in two ex-fascist nations there is a strong left while in the ex USSR fascism is on the rise? :blink: <_<
what? thats simply bullshit, yes both countries might have some leftist movement, on the other hand their whole state is full of post-fashist supporters, the judical branch, the police are amongst the most repressive and reactionary in europe. in spain just recently a antifashist was murdered on the streets by fashists. not talking about the repression against basque fractions in the country. in italy prodi and berlousconi try to convert the state to a 2 party system, to kick out the communist parties of the goverment. also berlousconi openly works with fashist parties.

sorry, the communist parties might have some more influence, but the countries are in no way progressive

LOTFW
3rd December 2007, 19:10
I enjoyed Spain greatly. I visited my girl when she was a foreign exchange student when she was at the University of Madrid. We had a great time running around all of Spain by bus. It was a lot of fun, and the vast number of people we met had an understanding of class. Theatre, nightlife and bars and dancing (in my case, poorly; in her case, HELLO&#33;), schools, and parks were filled with many who understood how things stacked up.

A LOT of drinking. I think wine is their national pass-time. (Ours is baseball, for those of you who don&#39;t know about America.)

It was a pretty inexpensive place to tour. And there were very hot women. Dark hair and light eyes. Killers all of them. And there was a lot of liberalism when it came to sex and generally partying. What is sometimes called "swing". It was a lot of fun. Ah, well.

But I don&#39;t knowwhether this 30% translates into much, as the same thing exists to even greater number in France, at over 33%.

But remember, those in Europe who are cappies are FIERCE cappies. So there are 40% who HATE socialims with as much passion as the 30% who support Mr. Chavez.