Capitalism and the crisis of abundance

[Psy]

It should be painfully obvious in the modern world that capitalism has expanded production to the point that a crisis of abundance has become a reoccurring problem to the capitalist system. Yet the average person doesn't see this huge contradiction for capitalism and that capitalism has peaked.

So the question is how do we explain to the masses that capitalism is not going to recover, that the productive forces are far too great for capitalism to continue to provide an overall improvement in quality of life?

[La Comédie Noire]

It should be painfully obvious in the modern world that capitalism has expanded production to the point that a crisis of abundance has become a reoccurring problem to the capitalist system. Yet the average person doesn't see this huge contradiction for capitalism and that capitalism has peaked.

So the question is how do we explain to the masses that capitalism is not going to recover, that the productive forces are far too great for capitalism to continue to provide an overall improvement in quality of life?

We take modern conflicts and show them how they relate to private property. Take the U.S conquest of the middle east for instance. A group of bourgeoise bought up or seriously retarded all the alternative methods to oil forcing us to expand the oil market. How ridiculous is that? A group of people did not want to give up their wealth, so they forced one population to wage war against the other.

[Schrödinger's Cat]

So the question is how do we explain to the masses that capitalism is not going to recover, that the productive forces are far too great for capitalism to continue to provide an overall improvement in quality of life?

Running with the idea made by Comrade Floyd, we rob the planet of natural resources without giving back. Certain resources like wood we can easily be replenished but that would cost more money than just moving onto the next tree. Other resources like clean water, coal, and oil are having to be replaced by alternatives eventually. We've had the capability to do so for a long time; it just required financial investment.

There are plenty of resources available showing our consumption habits aren't being reinforced by protective measures simply because of cost and convenience.

[Psy]

Originally posted by [email protected] 03, 2007 05:31 am

So the question is how do we explain to the masses that capitalism is not going to recover, that the productive forces are far too great for capitalism to continue to provide an overall improvement in quality of life?

Running with the idea made by Comrade Floyd, we rob the planet of natural resources without giving back. Certain resources like wood we can easily be replenished but that would cost more money than just moving onto the next tree. Other resources like clean water, coal, and oil are having to be replaced by alternatives eventually. We've had the capability to do so for a long time; it just required financial investment.

There are plenty of resources available showing our consumption habits aren't being reinforced by protective measures simply because of cost and convenience.
The issue of capitalism peaking is larger then that. It means the economy can't become more productive as that would lead to abundance (bad for capitalism that is based on scarcity and limiting access to commodities), we have reached the point where the only way for capitalism to can keep going is ever greater exploitation of the workers.

Meaning families with 2 cars would eventually only be able afford one, this causes lower consumption that brings back the crisis of over-production that leads to further exploitation of workers, that lowers consumption and so on. Currently credit is keeping the system going but it is a stop gap and would cause the system crash faster.

From what I see we are getting closer to the point were either the system will resort to feudalism as the ruling class wants a stable class system they know works or we will move past capitalism to communism.

[grove street]

Originally posted by Psy+December 03, 2007 04:37 pm--> (Psy @ December 03, 2007 04:37 pm)
[email protected] 03, 2007 05:31 am

So the question is how do we explain to the masses that capitalism is not going to recover, that the productive forces are far too great for capitalism to continue to provide an overall improvement in quality of life?

Running with the idea made by Comrade Floyd, we rob the planet of natural resources without giving back. Certain resources like wood we can easily be replenished but that would cost more money than just moving onto the next tree. Other resources like clean water, coal, and oil are having to be replaced by alternatives eventually. We've had the capability to do so for a long time; it just required financial investment.

There are plenty of resources available showing our consumption habits aren't being reinforced by protective measures simply because of cost and convenience.
The issue of capitalism peaking is larger then that. It means the economy can't become more productive as that would lead to abundance (bad for capitalism that is based on scarcity and limiting access to commodities), we have reached the point where the only way for capitalism to can keep going is ever greater exploitation of the workers.

Meaning families with 2 cars would eventually only be able afford one, this causes lower consumption that brings back the crisis of over-production that leads to further exploitation of workers, that lowers consumption and so on. Currently credit is keeping the system going but it is a stop gap and would cause the system crash faster.

From what I see we are getting closer to the point were either the system will resort to feudalism as the ruling class wants a stable class system they know works or we will move past capitalism to communism. [/b]
The Bourgeise overthrew Fedualism in the first place

The whole essence of Capitalism stands for everything that the Fedualism was against in other words the right to property, not based on blood line, but based upon Capital. The ruling classes of Fedualism despised the merchant class (pre Capitalist) sometimes even more then the peseants.

[Psy]

Originally posted by grove [email protected] 03, 2007 11:58 pm
The Bourgeise overthrew Fedualism in the first place

The whole essence of Capitalism stands for everything that the Fedualism was against in other words the right to property, not based on blood line, but based upon Capital. The ruling classes of Fedualism despised the merchant class (pre Capitalist) sometimes even more then the peseants.
Look at intellectual property, capitalists fight for a world were patients and copyrights never end thus monopolies are not granted by capital but by simply owning the required intellectual property. Think about MS saying they own the idea of a computer thus have a legal monopoly over computers till the end of time. When the capitalism starts threatening the status of the ruling class they would move from a system based on capital to a system based on the genealogy of ownership, justifying their rule by the property that was passed down to them.